Homebrew Official Citra - New 3DS Emulator

[Noctosphere]

those are external harddrive not internal harddrive

so...? Still hard drive, right?

 

[pdensco]

Holy crap! That would be the kind of HDD I would need for my computer, mine fills up fast.
It would be horrible to have that harddrive fail on you, though.

those are like usb drive you can find those on ebay search seagate drive

 

[pdensco]

Holy crap! That would be the kind of HDD I would need for my computer, mine fills up fast.
It would be horrible to have that harddrive fail on you, though.

those are like usbdrive

so...? Still hard drive, right?

yup but its like a usbdrive you need usb port for it

 

[neobrain]

Yo guys, mind putting this discussion somewhere where it's not completely off-topic? thanks.

 

[pdensco]

Yo guys, mind putting this discussion somewhere where it's not completely off-topic? thanks.

oky

 

[Tylerrr]

Even today, a pc that is more powerful than a ps4 can hardly emulate a ps3 or a xbox 360
Wii U, well, there are way higher probability that it gets an emulator before ps4 or xbox one since its specs are very low... for a last gen console
Today, no, it won't be possible at all to play wii u on pc (unless you like when there is less than 1 fps).
In 4 years, yes, it will be possible, with the kind of specs that will be available then :

1TB of RAM
3PB of HDD (1 PB = 1024 TB)
12,4 GHz Intel processor
Processor of 34 core
Graphics card : Nvidia GTX Titan Ultra next gen with 48GB of VRAM
Monitor resolution : 64K
DirectX 14.2

And I'm talking about a common pc, not about a gamer PC

No, if it required those specs to run no one could make it

1TB of ram... Yeah maybe in 20-30 years will people use that much.

 

[Kafke]

Even today, a pc that is more powerful than a ps4 can hardly emulate a ps3 or a xbox 360
Wii U, well, there are way higher probability that it gets an emulator before ps4 or xbox one since its specs are very low... for a last gen console
Today, no, it won't be possible at all to play wii u on pc (unless you like when there is less than 1 fps).
In 4 years, yes, it will be possible, with the kind of specs that will be available then :

1TB of RAM
3PB of HDD (1 PB = 1024 TB)
12,4 GHz Intel processor
Processor of 34 core
Graphics card : Nvidia GTX Titan Ultra next gen with 48GB of VRAM
Monitor resolution : 64K
DirectX 14.2

And I'm talking about a common pc, not about a gamer PC

Lawl wat? No. The Wii U is hardly anything more than just an upgraded Wii. It literally has all the same hardware. No need for this 1TB of ram, 12.4 GHz processor shenanigans. To give a reference, my Mac Air can emulate both Wii and Gamecube games just fine, with these specs:

1.3 GHz Intel Core i5
8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Intel HD Graphics 5000 1536 MB

HDD doesn't matter. You just need enough space to store the backups, for Wii U that's anywhere up to 25GB per game (for the largest). Wii U games fit on the internal drive, and are expected to have multiple on there (it's only a 32GB drive). My largest Wii U download is DKTF, which is about 10GB. So no. A "3PB HDD" is not needed at all. A regular HDD would work fine. Though, I'd recommend a 500gb or so, if you plan on keeping all your games on there. Anything you'd use for your Wii U would work.

"Cores" in processor don't matter. You simply need as many as the console your are emulating, and perhaps one more to keep the computer running smooth and to do extra emulation stuff. Again, any modern gaming desktop should be able to handle this (a 1.3 GHZ, dual core runs fine for Wii).

Monitor Resolution is hilarious. Since your display literally doesn't matter in terms of emulation. And "64K" is laughable. Modern displays are just barely reaching 4K/5K. Which is /more than enough/ for displaying an emulated Wii U. Really, you just need 720P, like your TV (which is perfectly capable of displaying Wii U games). Computer monitors blow past this spec requirement.

And "DirectX" isn't used in emulation, like ever. IIRC Dolphin used it at one point, but it was slow and buggy so they ditched it for OpenGL. There's no hard requirement on the graphics library, since literally anything would work. That's not a computer spec anyway.

I'm fairly certain any top of the line ($800-$1000 custom built) modern gaming computer would be able to run Wii U games just fine. No need to play with "fantasy specs". The machines we currently have are more than capable. The Wii U is underpowered as shit, which is why it's so cheap (you can pick one up for $200, and most of that goes to the gamepad).

Now, if you want to emulate the PS4 or Xbox One, that's a different question entirely. Those are built to be equivalent of a last generation top of the line PC. Which are much more demanding. Should still be possible. But I'd give it a year or two after the consoles are 'dead' in order to have the 'perfect' specs to come out, and for a rudimentary emulator to appear. Likewise, PS3 and Xbox 360 emulators would run fine now, with modern computer hardware.

If the specs you listed truly were needed, we wouldn't even be able to emulate Wii/DS yet.

 

[emmauss]

you guys should get updates on citra more often. they merge the opengl backend a few days ago, and now OoT runs at around 15fps and less.

 

[emmauss]

if the Wii u has more or less the same hardware as the Wii, don't you think dolphin would have Wii U support by now. it is not an upgraded Wii. it is a completely different console. it is like saying a console using a haswell CPU is an upgrade of one running a nehalem CPU, so not need for a more powerful system to emulate it. also direct3d is still supported on dolphin, just that you need to have d3d11. even some of the devs have thoughts on porting it to d3d12. when it is out.

 

[Kafke]

if the Wii u has more or less the same hardware as the Wii, don't you think dolphin would have Wii U support by now. it is not an upgraded Wii. it is a completely different console. it is like saying a console using a haswell CPU is an upgrade of one running a nehalem CPU, so not need for a more powerful system to emulate it. also direct3d is still supported on dolphin, just that you need to have d3d11. even some of the devs have thoughts on porting it to d3d12. when it is out.

The software is different, and the hardware is indeed a bit different. http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Wii_U#/Hardware. The Wii U contains the hardware that runs wii games, but has newer components (naturally) to run Wii U applications as well as run better looking games. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the Dolphin guys added Wii U support. Again, it's literally almost the same system (with a few differences, naturally). It's kind of like GC/Wii. The GC isn't the Wii, but the Wii has largely the same hardware architecture and such as the gamecube (but newer/better). Which made emulating Wii from Gamecube stuff fairly simple. I imagine it's a similar case for Wii U.

As for why it's not there yet, both the gamecube and wii were hacked before support was added in dolphin. The Wii U is currently not hacked.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone was working on Wii U support for Dolphin.

 

[emmauss]

on the wii-wiiu issue. the Wii was clocked at 729mhz on a single core processor the is in the same family as the gamecube's CPU. to even run most games, you would need a fairly new system with support for the new instruction sets dolphin uses for optimizations and a 3rd Gen Intel HD gpu. how much more. three core CPU clocked at 1.2ghz.the 3ds uses a two CPU pair, one for ds emulation and the more powerful dual-core one for 3ds.the citra team has no intention of emulating the ds cpu, so they have less work to do.this is much easier.the ds uses a CPU that is even weaker than most cpus on old winmo phones ,even the PSP is more powerful than it. It wasn't along after release then emulators started supporting it.

 

[emmauss]

Nintendo wants to maintain backward compatibility on all consoles without need for emulation, so the use CPU from the same family. that is why it is technically easier to emulate, cause documentation fro the previous CPU cn be used for newer consoles. but see this, 3ds uses arm CPU, which is quite popular and well documented due to it use in mobile phones, but all current emulators started last year, although the 4.0 firmware range which were easily hacked came earlier. it will take a long time from now to even start wii u on dolphin, when currently no one can run codes on the Wii u without using vwii.

 

[jamieyello]

Spider-man Edge of time boots and does strange things. I think if I waited long enough I'd get in-game. Activision games never have been friendly to emulators so I'm surprised.

Spoiler

 

[emmauss]

are you using hw renderer?

 

[OctopusRift]

so there isn't a compatibility list either?

http://3dsemulator.wikia.com/wiki/Compatibility_List

 

[ground]

so i have a (simple) question:

I tried to use this, but I get a 355: Failed to initialize GL functions, error all the time. Somebody know what is wrong (as far as I know the drivers are up to date (i checked it yesterday).

 

[neobrain]

pica improvements

Please don't distribute random binary builds without accompanying the source code that it was build upon. Other reasons why I don't like distributing random binaries like that put aside, this is a blatant violation of our license.

 

[Edward Nigma]

ok sorry

 

[purpasmart96]

so i have a (simple) question:

I tried to use this, but I get a 355: Failed to initialize GL functions, error all the time. Somebody know what is wrong (as far as I know the drivers are up to date (i checked it yesterday).

You're using Intel's integrated graphics most likely. Time to update buddy.

 

[KashiToxicBlood]

can somebody post the latest build? i was able to get a few things to boot off of this from some emucr compiled versions like this