US congress repeal internet privacy laws

Hells Malice · Mar 25, 2017

This is basically entirely just internet usage being sent to advertisers for their own data.
It doesn't really do anything.

People need to remember that unless you're a pedophile or a criminal in general, the government doesn't give two fucks about what you do on the internet.

Most of this "spying" is just analytics.

Silverthorn · Mar 25, 2017

DespyCL said:
so, what does that mean for the avarage internet user?

it shouldnt bother me since im not from the US but i tried to read it and i got lazy translating in the midle of the text...

Grossly summarized, this allows ISPs in the US to legally be able to sell your browsing history info to whoever they want.
So you pay them and then they can get paid again with the info you give them on yourself.

the_randomizer · Mar 25, 2017

Silverthorn said:
Grossly summarized, this allows ISPs in the US to legally be able to sell your browsing history info to whoever they want.
So you pay them and then they can get paid again with the info you give them on yourself.

How can one tell? They were already doing shady BS before all this, the average user isn't going to notice anything different

Subtle Demise · Mar 25, 2017

Leave it to the US government to bow down to big business every single time. At least it's just targeted ads. Of course it will evolve into something worse, but I will wait and see what happens before I fly off the handle about this particular issue.

Silverthorn · Mar 25, 2017

the_randomizer said:
How can one tell? They were already doing shady BS before all this, the average user isn't going to notice anything different

Notice the keyword "legally" in my sentence.

RevPokemon · Mar 25, 2017

Subtle Demise said:
Leave it to the US government to bow down to big business every single time. At least it's just targeted ads. Of course it will evolve into something worse, but I will wait and see what happens before I fly off the handle about this particular issue.

the real question is how will this affect people whose online activities are semiquestionable like activists?

the_randomizer · Mar 25, 2017

Subtle Demise said:
Leave it to the US government to bow down to big business every single time. At least it's just targeted ads. Of course it will evolve into something worse, but I will wait and see what happens before I fly off the handle about this particular issue.

All the more reason to be "defiant" by telling them how we feel and expressing our anger, they don't have resources to stop the voices of 300 million plus people; any government would do this, and probably already are in many developed and developing countries. No government in the world can or should be trusted.

Silverthorn said:
Notice the keyword "legally" in my sentence.

Something being legal doesn't coincide with being morally right

Bunch of sycophantic losers they are, bending over for faceless corporations.

Subtle Demise · Mar 25, 2017

RevPokemon said:
the real question is how will this affect people whose online activities are semiquestionable like activists?

I'm sure NSA malware has automatically put those people on a watchlist already.

the_randomizer · Mar 25, 2017

Subtle Demise said:
I'm sure NSA malware has automatically put those people on a watchlist already.

Yeah well the NSA can suck it. Wish that they were defunded and no longer allowed to spy on citizens. What good have they done for us, I mean, really? I'd rather trust the FBI.

Subtle Demise · Mar 25, 2017

the_randomizer said:
All the more reason to be "defiant" by telling them how we feel and expressing our anger, they don't have resources to stop the voices of 300 million plus people; any government would do this, and probably already are in many developed and developing countries. No government in the world can or should be trusted.

You're right, but most people aren't going to do anything about it. The welfare state has made people too afraid. No one is going to turn against a government that feeds their family.

Kioku · Mar 25, 2017

This thread is exactly why this shit happens. All talk and no show.

RemixDeluxe · Mar 25, 2017

Doesnt this already happen whether this law passes or not?

the_randomizer · Mar 25, 2017

Memoir said:
This thread is exactly why this shit happens. All talk and no show.

What do you expect us to do? Start an insurrection against the government?

Subtle Demise · Mar 25, 2017

the_randomizer said:
Yeah well the NSA can suck it. Wish that they were defunded and no longer allowed to spy on citizens. What good have they done for us, I mean, really? I'd rather trust the FBI.

There are a lot of unelected government bodies that were created in order to bypass checks and balances. For instance, the DEA, which really shouldn't exist in the first place, has the power to ban any substance in the universe whenever they feel like it.

BullyWiiPlaza · Mar 25, 2017

Not that this even matters, your data is already being sold. Indeed, nobody gives a damn about what you do on a personal level. Why do people always think they're so special that everyone wants to spy and learn about their activities? It's just for advertising and statistics. Big deal, nothing is going to change and once again the "bad" news are laid blame on Trump for no reason while the "good" actions are generally kept silent.

Pathetic xD

RustInPeace · Mar 25, 2017

RevPokemon said:
VPNs are shit due to man in the middle issues. See https://tails.boum.org/support/faq/index.en.html#index21h2 which in short goes over the big issues with them.

I know the Batgirl cosplay looking girl in your avatar. Natalie Mars? She's very lovely. Anyways, I've had Private Internet Access for almost 2 years and other than slowdown periods, I haven't had issues with them. More my speed anyways, hands off, simple setup and interface, in fact at one point when I had suspended internet service, using them allowed me to go on all websites as if I had restored service as opposed to only a handful of sites.

RevPokemon · Mar 25, 2017

RustInPeace said:
Anyways, I've had Private Internet Access for almost 2 years and other than slowdown periods, I haven't had issues with them. More my speed anyways, hands off, simple setup and interface, in fact at one point when I had suspended internet service, using them allowed me to go on all websites as if I had restored service as opposed to only a handful of sites.

The biggest question with VPN providers is simply can you trust them with your logs? While I am not saying PIA is bad, the nature of VPNs make this something to consider. So that being said from a technical perspective it is better to use tor or i2p since they are not centralized.

DinohScene · Mar 25, 2017

RevPokemon said:
VPNs are shit due to man in the middle issues. See https://tails.boum.org/support/faq/index.en.html#index21h2 which in short goes over the big issues with them.

Hence I start me own VPN for americans to take.

RevPokemon · Mar 25, 2017

DinohScene said:
Hence I start me own VPN for americans to take.

Still are issues with the nature in addition to how warrants can work.

Deleted member 377734 · Mar 25, 2017

man, am I ever glad I'm Canadian now......

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