Hardware Do you think the wii u will be a failure?

[shadowgauge]

Don't worry WII U wont fail plenty of ppl will buy it because its a new system 1 and its nintendo ppl love nintendo.
I have to say they played it smart by allowing you to use your existing controllers and peripherals, that's money ppl don't have to spend
for the system also a lot of ppl are looking forward to the game pad, I mean I want to see how games look and run on the controller.
i know what your gonna say "but Xbox has smart glass Sony has vita" well um yes but lets say if you don't have a tablet ( forget about smart phones screens to small)or a vita for the price you would pay for that you can prolly buy a WII U for cheaper and its made to do the things the other company's want to attempt have any of you tried
remote play AKA NAME CHANGE TO CROSS PLAY! on vita EWWWWWWWW horrible experience laggy as hell with barely any compatible games
and I wont pay lets say $400 for a tablet when I can get a WII U. Games will come what I've learned is that all launches tend to suck especially when you have all the good launch
games already and nothing comes out for months. everything will be ok but like everything that's new it will have its hurdles.

 

[chartube12]

Nope. Too many fanboys and families out there. They'll keep the Wii-U "alive".

just wait when the xbox 3 and playstation 4 comes out with new graphics features. Then it will be back to almost square one for Nintendo. The Wii-U games will have to be completely remade especially for it just like Wii games. Losing the easy porting of the other guys when their next systems launch. Sure it may survive on ps3/xb360 ports and cancelled xb360/ps3 games for awhile but eventually it will turn into a shovelware and kiddy game magnet just like the Wii.

 

[Deltaechoe]

How could it even be successful?

Everyone is overestimating the appeal of tablets.

And how many ipads have you seen in the last week?

 

[KingVamp]

Yes, I expect it to be the most successful console in the history of Nintendo.

While I think it will do well, I think that is a big expectation.

Considering how hard the Wii failed, I assume the WiiU will fail just as hard.

O rly?

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/library/historical_data/pdf/consolidated_sales_e1203.pdf

Sarcasm ...

 

[Veho]

It's going to sell poorly until they scrap the GamePad, start selling the console with two Pro controllers (and at $150), at which point it will start selling better. But by then, you will be able to get 1080p graphics out of HTPCs and netbooks, and coupled with cloud gaming services, consoles will become completely pointless; the WiiU will never repeat the success of the Wii, the PS4 and NeXtBox will be DOA, and the console market will crash again like it did in 1983 And with that bit of random babble pulled out of my ass, I would like to conclude my presentation on the topic of "predicting the future is a mug's game, so let's not."


Thank you.

 

[Fibrizo]

Considering how hard the Wii failed, I assume the WiiU will fail just as hard.

How di it fail last time i check it sold more that ps3 and Xbox 360 so they must have done something fine

 

[Fear Zoa]

The good news is even if it does fail it wouldn't be their worst failure ever, I don't think any console manufacturer in this day and age can fail harder then the virtual boy.

 

[Taleweaver]

I commute to work, and I have to say that tablets sure became a hype. Or even a trend (it'll take a few years to find out if it'll fade away or not). So it certainly will have appeal.

The main factor is that I can't predict the casual gamers. Those won't be bothered by fancier graphics, and I somewhat doubt they'll shell out on lots of money to upgrade their wii (why should they: they already have "a wii").
For the competitive gamers, it's simple: give them sufficient new hardcore exclusive games and they'll come. ZombiU is one. Two or three others and it should start to draw some attention.


In the meantime, I'll bet on "average". More of a success than the 3DS launch (ahem...), but I doubt stores will run out of stock.


It'll probably depend on what mouth-to-mouth experiences and reviews will have to say about the console to determine whether the sales will climb or fall after that...

 

[machomuu]

Considering how hard the Wii failed, I assume the WiiU will fail just as hard.

How di it fail last time i check it was sold more that psp3 and Xbox 360

 

[10_0ARMY]

Two words: hell no.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Depends on what you consider "failure".

Retail wise I expect it to be like Gamecube-level stuff. I mean people are dubbing it the "Gamecube 2" and similar stuff and it seems to be going the same way.

I just don't expect many families to see the Wii U as worthwhile to transition to from their Wii or Xbox 360 or even PS3. When it comes to the "core audiences", the Wii U doesn't seem to attract anyone from the PS3/Xbox 360 crowd and the devout Nintendo fanbase isn't as large as people would like to think.

 

[Foxi4]

Retail wise I expect it to be like Gamecube-level stuff. I mean people are dubbing it the "Gamecube 2" and similar stuff and it seems to be going the same way.

I think it will do just fine.

The problem with the Gamecube was that it brought literally nothing new to the table - it had absolutely no distinctive features as far as the gaming side is concerned and... well, there was no other side since it literally had no multimedia features. What killed the Gamecube was the fact that it was designed as a console for a different time - a time long-gone.

The WiiU is Nintendo's take on "the center of the household" with its innovative tablet controller which appears to do a whole lot of stuff, actually. It *has* something original to offer and I think that it will bring additional customers.

I sincerely doubt that it will sell as well as the Wii, which admittedly sold well because it was affordable and "family-friendly", but it should not be a fiasco as long as it recieves the proper third-party treatment it deserves.

 

[The Catboy]

I don't think it will be a flop, but I doubt it's going to sell the numbers Nintendo is expecting it to sell.

 

[machomuu]

Retail wise I expect it to be like Gamecube-level stuff. I mean people are dubbing it the "Gamecube 2" and similar stuff and it seems to be going the same way.

I highly doubt it will be like the GC. While it doesn't have the focused appeal that it had before, it's also innovating much more than the GC did and will most likely be inferior to its Microsoft and Sony counterparts. I can see more third-party support, and really it's not as unattractive as the Gamecube was. Also, it probably won't have strong competitors like the GC did (heck, even if the Gamecube did sell better, I definitely can't see it ever doing better than the PS2). Not to forget that it's not using an inferior form of media like the Gamecube was.

I wouldn't say this is wishful thinking, but I can't see it being the Gamecube 2.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

The problem with the Gamecube was that it brought literally nothing new to the table - it had absolutely no distinctive features as far as the gaming side is concerned and... well, there was no other side since it literally had no multimedia features. What killed the Gamecube was the fact that it was designed as a console for a different time - a time long-gone.

The WiiU is Nintendo's take on "the center of the household" with its innovative tablet controller which appears to do a whole lot of stuff, actually. It *has* something original to offer and I think that it will bring additional customers.

I sincerely doubt that it will sell as well as the Wii, which admittedly sold well because it was affordable and "family-friendly", but it should not be a fiasco as long as it recieves the proper third-party treatment it deserves.

In all honesty this is kinda the same. Yeah, it has a "tablet feature" but if families want a tablet they want a tablet, not a controller that masquerades as such. Plus they're gonna compete with SmartGlass, which can really beat the Wii U heavily if it's properly utilized. I mean you don't need to buy a whole new console to have a tablet-controller deal going on, you can just connect whatever smartphone or tablet you have and there ya go. Outside of that it's basically just a current generation console that's several years late to the party and isn't getting the same support. Yeah, some titles are going to it, but you're still not getting a lot. Just things in the recent months and even CoD (hate it all you want but it holds a pretty heavy weight in the market) are large factors here.

There have already been consoles that serve as the "center of the household". Case in point: the Xbox 360. It actually masters this. It doesn't end up squashing its family games and core games together and having each suffer, they're actually more compartmentalized with the Kinect as an accessory and not a feature. It makes developers not pressured to have games shoehorn in stupid controls but allows other devs to focus completely on motion controls. Then it does Netflix, Hulu Plus, Amazon Instant (or whatever it's called), music, movies, and a whole slew of things. Plus people severely underrate PC connectivity here, but it means a lot. You can stream music and movies directly from your PC, and that's a pretty nifty feature.

Also as I mentioned before, SmartGlass plays a huge role here. Being compatible with any smart device is huge. Almost every household is getting a smartphone nowadays. Now you can just connect it to the Xbox and do anything. Browse the web, transfer movies, even play games if it catches on.

I just don't see families wanting to buy another Wii product if they're satisfied with their current one. Even then, I know so many families who bought and Wii and it now catches dust. If they didn't even use their current one much, why buy a new, more expensive one? Even then, why buy a new one when you're satisfied with what they have now?

The Wii U is just in an uncomfortable spot. It's trying too hard to fetch core appeal but is still dealing to the casual market under the table essentially. It's what I kinda admired about the "motion control competitors", that they don't face this compromise. Casual games and core games are completely separate, they don't need to design either to have cross appeal.

EDIT: But for the question at hand, I don't see it as a "failure" in a broader sense, it's quite hard for the Big Three of gaming to actually have a "console failure".

 

[BenRK]

I'm seeing tons of mixed opinions...

Here's my thoughts:

For starters, like it or not, tablets are here to stay, just like smart phones. Since the 90s, companies have been trying to make a popular tablet, and only with the advent of the iPad did we get them. I'm not saying only the iPad is popular too. I've seen more people with tons of different kinds of tablets, ranging from cheapos to Kindle Fires to iPads to high end Android tablets. And yes, this is in small town USA we're talking here.

As such, I actually see this as Nintendo testing the waters of a new gaming era. Not one brought on by Nintendo by any means, but you can't deny that it's happening. Gaming is changing. Digital distribution proved to work with Steam, cloud gaming has taken its first steps through OnLive, a lot more time is spent playing games via our web browsers and phones then in the past. Console gaming wont last forever, and I think Nintendo at least partially knows this. In the not so distant future, I can see the big three becoming more of gaming service providers then console manufacturers.

I'm going on a tangent here, but some of you must admit, if Nintendo offered their virtual console service for your phones or tablets or computers, you would use that service for all it's worth! Yeah yeah questionable emulation, but not everyone is going to want to go through that. "But what about a controller? I don't want on screen buttons!" WELL! That's the easy part. Own a Wii remote? Just wirelessly connect it to your tablet or whatever via bluetooth! It's really not that hard and I can do it nearly instantly. Heck, I've got a 360 controller working with my tablet just fine, not to mention Nyko is coming out with that bluetooth gamepad for Android!

Anyway, back on topic. Like I said, I think Nintendo at least realizes change is coming, and this, to me at least, is seen as an answer, or at least one possible solution to the change. You may not like it. You may always want a box sitting between you and your TV to play "true" games. That's kind of silly and you know it. There's no reason why one can't play Zelda or Mario out on the go! Same with more "hard core" (a phrase I down right despise) games like Halo and Mass Effect and what not.

 

[Foxi4]

Considering how hard the Wii failed, I assume the WiiU will fail just as hard.

How di it fail last time i check it sold more that ps3 and Xbox 360 so they must have done something fine.

Yep - they had an amazing ad campaign that spoke to the minds of thousands of middle-aged parents and the eldery of the world plus they had a price that was hard to beat.

 

[chartube12]

Completely honest here. I feel like there isn't much room for three consoles today. In the past every time a 3rd console appeared Nintendo and Sega than Nintendo and Sony gamers crushed it like a bug. Nintendo I feel was saved this generation with the full on dive into the family market with the motion controls.

The games coming out for the Wii-U you can get already or soon on the other two. Nintendo's first and second party was the main reason to buy a wii beyond hacking and the family market. Even those games were in a shorter supply compared to other years. I feel if Nintendo doesn't have a big enough must have truly exclusive game for the Wii-U it will fail.

Nintendo stated after the falling of the cube, if the wii failed they be out of the home console market but wouldn't go 3rd party. Good chance the Wii-U could put them back in that spot again like the cube did. In other words if the Wii-U does over all like the gamecube, Nintendo won't be in trouble but the next console would have to be a hit or Nintendo would go handheld system only.

Edited for easier reading! Enjoy!

 

[ShadowSoldier]

God no. Are you kidding me? Okay first of all, as long as original amazing Mario titles like Galaxy come out, and epic Zelda adventures, they're going to be selling. Then they have a whole backlog of characters that everybody wants, Samus, Star Fox, F-Zero are some of the main ones. They got Donkey Kong to work with as well.

 

[Fibrizo]

Considering how hard the Wii failed, I assume the WiiU will fail just as hard.

How di it fail last time i check it sold more that ps3 and Xbox 360 so they must have done something fine.

Yep - they had an amazing ad campaign that spoke to the minds of thousands of middle-aged parents and the eldery of the world plus they had a price that was hard to beat.

yep they did good if you dint like it that your problem Foxi4