Zombie thread, RAAAGH

[2skies]

Yesterday Gary said...

Believe NOTHING this pole swizzler says. Nothing. If you want to check for any kind of updates, refresh Gateway's site.

 

[Miles54321]

thorasgar knows his stuff, I've always assumed his August 14th to be a joke and he's actually thinking it will come out later then everyone expects meaning that any date he is giving will be true to a certain extent

 

[kheldar]

Absolutely not! Besides I am told I don't have an ass.

If you have been following this thread then you know the answers, I have revealed all.

Then I must have missed it . Care to explain?

 

[Suthek]

So you proved my point

I'm sure they sat in a office back in December and had this same discussion revolving around 9.3 and the N3DS update.
The return on investment is too much of a gamble doing an after-the-fact update to 9.3 when they didn't even know what exploit was found on N3DS.

If they released the N3DS exploit, larger business decisions could have been made and a true ROI could have been completed.

 

[Random Joe]

I'm sure they sat in a office back in December and had this same discussion revolving around 9.3 and the N3DS update.
The return on investment is too much of a gamble doing an after-the-fact update to 9.3 when they didn't even know what exploit was found on N3DS.

If they released the N3DS exploit, larger business decisions could have been made and a true ROI could have been completed.

Maybe Nintendo just knows gateway is bullshitting everyone

 

[Suthek]

Maybe Nintendo just knows gateway is bullshitting everyone

also possible.
Technically they don't need to release anything and they just sold a large flux of new devices. (Again, good business decision to make money.)
Then they could just release a "Oh Em Gee Sorry guys... you need to buy this hardware instead" Even more profit from the same customer. Charlie Sheen would be bi-winning right here.

 

[MopSec]

So you proved my point

So you think they wanted to go through the trouble of updating thousands of systems per hand?

 

[Suthek]

So you think they wanted to go through the trouble of updating thousands of systems per hand?

You'd be surprised what a manufacturing company will do to contain a problem.

I'm sure the discussion was raised. I still stand by my point that the only reason they didn't is because they didn't know if 9.3+ resolved the N3DS hole being advertised by Gateway.

 

[Random Joe]

If they released the exploit earlier, Nintendo would have been confident in their "fix" and implemented greater efforts to have a higher sysnand on release.
As the exploit wasn't released, Nintendo couldn't invest any time/money to guarantee a secure sysnand within NA on release. (Since there's no guarantee what/if any of their sysnand versions secure it.)

I meant about this...

 

[schumi_girl]

From what I remember, people were saying August as a joke because that's when Sony is due, or something.

 

[Suthek]

I meant about this...

I think you're hooked on 9.3+ being the official N3DS firewall. Like us, Nintendo would have had to make their decisions based on rumor and assumptions.
If Gateway released the exploit, their business decision would have been off facts instead of rumors.
Assuming Gateway even has a working exploit, nobody knows if 9.3 indeed patched it.

For argument sake, lets say 9.3 comes out and it's still exploitable on N3DS.
Do you think gateway would tell people, "dont worry about it! Go ahead and update!"
Of course not. They know their fan base is sitting behind 9.2. They don't gain/lose any market share by releasing that knowledge.

Telling people 9.3 is safe for N3DS would only tip Nintendo into knowing their patches were ineffective.

 

[Kohmei]

I think it's a large assumption that there's any exploit at all

 

[Thirty3Three]

I think it's a large assumption that there's any exploit at all

No.

 

[MopSec]

No.

Yes. They obviously faked the video or put the interior of a normal 3DS in a N3DS

/s

 

[MrJason005]

I think it's a large assumption that there's any exploit at all

So this is a fake?

 

[SomecallmeBerto]

So this is a fake?

Months old we don't even know if that exploit is good anymore.

 

[Miles54321]

Months old we don't even know if that exploit is good anymore.

Yeh, definetly legit but we can't see the full extent, we mii exploit probably didn't work so they need to make another one

only reason its taking so long

 

[jaynecobb]

ah, screw the exploit.

i have my skylanders swap force, giants and spyro that will keep me busy for quite awhile...especially since kirby and the order come out next week. it also doesn't hurt with dying light, toad and gta5 still waiting

 

[Eneco]

Yeh, definetly legit but we can't see the full extent, we mii exploit probably didn't work so they need to make another one

only reason its taking so long

If that were true a status update from them would be nice.

 

[aofelix]

GW are liars.. everyone get over it.

I would get Sky but a) I own a GW from my other 3DS and b) Its not got a guaranteed life time if Nintendo block it.

If Sky had emunand, it would be a no-brainer.