Your "Joker" Actor ?

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  1. Jiehfeng

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    Todd Phillips is the director of the new Joker movie btw.
     
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  2. FAST6191

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    *wanders into thread*

    *sees many picks being the TAS Batman*

    There was never really any doubt about sticking around on this site for me but nice to have confirmation anyway.

    Edit. Though if we are going to have rare joker appearances then... spoilers for a 1985 episode of The Super Powers Team: Galactic Guardians

    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6l257g
     
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  3. Veho

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    Mark Hamill (although a lot of credit for B:TAS' Joker goes to the animation team) and Jack Nicholson. I'm in the very tiny minority that wasn't particularly impressed by Ledger's Joker. Everyone is wild about the performance but I'm just not seeing it :unsure:
     
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  4. FAST6191

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    It is probably the whole immediately posthumous thing (odd for a junkie but oh well). We will see in a few years; it was 2008 it dropped so we will likely be seeing the kids too young to have caught it at the time being teenagers and all that before long, and with that tends to come a certain clarity or lack of bias.

    I wouldn't call it a bad performance per se, either in general or as a take on the whole joker thing, but I also never found myself in the "bar raised, perfection attained, nothing will come close to this, this is the new standard" set and found such praises actually rather odd -- just a decent performance in a decent film (I actually liked batman begins more, and never saw the third).
     
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  5. Jiehfeng

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    If you liked the first one more, then by all means do not watch the third one at any point in your life.

    Even looking back at Heath Ledger's performance now, it's really iconic to me at least, and I really don't know how to put it into words to explain it to some who would say otherwise. It really was unique performance you wouldn't have found in any movie back then, and I don't feel as though time has changed that yet if it would ever.

    Then again, I do understand if you would say it doesn't look like how much people praise it to be. Like all things really good, when language is used to express how good you feel about something, it can seem like an extreme in contrast to what you mean, language can be pretty limiting at times. For example, to say masterpiece is also very relative and comparative. Though using the word "perfect" would be wrong, again, that's how a lot of people would describe something they really really liked.
     
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  6. FAST6191

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    If I do it will only be a "I am bored at my grandparents' house" sort of thing. While they actually have one of the best DVD collections anywhere I still find myself looking at the odd stuff -- think they were the main reason I ever saw the third (possibly also second but I might have seen that elsewhere) star wars prequel.

    As far as unique... for a mainstream film then sure, for a mainstream superhero film then absolutely. For an independent film (and this was in the midst of something of an indie takeover) then not so much, and TV even more so (OK so it was Dexter series 5 at this point which some reckon it was when it went downhill but even so in the years leading up to it the idea of a dark reflection of a character doing the master manipulator bit was nothing terrible special, plus whatever HBO was doing). You also had the likes of Netflix rising up and Redbox also doing their thing, mostly off the back of indie films.
     
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  7. Jiehfeng

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    I'm not saying the character and story is as unique, I was talking about the acting. The Joker as you know is a very old character, and there definitely has been similar characters before this movie came out. I doubt you would've seen his kind of acting in the Dexter series. There are so many small details in his expressions and mannerisms that really make it very compelling and it really stands out.
     
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  8. FAST6191

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    Dexter probably had the narrator explain things to me but they put some serious effort into physical acting as well. As far as this one goes (I was paying attention when I watched it, and even more so during the subsequent glut of "video essays" on the matter) then a few nervous tics as Joker by way of Law Abiding Citizen do not a masterwork make.
     
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  9. FAST6191

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    Anybody seen the new film yet?

    There have been some good reviews from all sorts of people that normally line up fairly well with my opinions on films, with the dude that did the Joker being especially noted in those but at the same time it is also far enough along that any hype has probably passed. I am however probably going to have wait for the nearby village cinema to get it in a few weeks before I get to play.
     
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  10. Jiehfeng

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    I'm going to watch it this Saturday hopefully. I'll post my general thoughts.
     
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  11. OneAngryGamer

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    Jack Nicholson for sure.
     
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    Heath Ledger is my favorite Joker.
     
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  13. ganons

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    Throughout the Dark Knight series? He was only in 1 Batman movie. Saying that he stole the show, batman was like the secondary character imo.
     
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    Just came back from watching it, it was pretty damn good. I didn't expect it to have plot twists, but those are there as well. The acting is definitely on par with Heath Ledger, just a different kind. I would love it if they make a Batman movie and then some from this movie, the backstory set here would be perfect for a different kind of story.

    Without spoiling too much, it was a really good movie, no doubt about that. Is it absolutely perfect? No way, but I would like to say that it was excellent. You can really sympathize with this Joker, a unique take on the character.
     
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    My bad haha, his persona is great in the movie he is in. I think the dark knight movies are great, they aren't the best, but I personally love them, and they are the best movies so far out of all the ones that came out after it (Looking at you Batman Vs Superman)
     
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    If a series of movies are born by this new Joker movie, I can safely say the quality would be either around on par or better than that trilogy.
     
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    Mark Hamill of course

    Also, surprised you didn't add a poll
     
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    I like the fact that there are many definitions of the Joker as movies are produced, and even the last one from Todd Philipps with Joaquin Phoenix is a different one from his older brothers.

    For example, Tim Burton's Joker (played by Jack Nicholson) is kind of reassuring. His makeup is perfect and clean and his style definitely comic and cartoon-like, and above all, he has built a universe around him, made of art and colors. He is, in his delirium, a creative artist. Nolan's Joker (played by Heath Ledger) is terrifying : there is nothing around him, only chaos and a vague cynical memory of the world in which he lives He doesn't beleive in anything, there is nothing sacred to him. He is more like a nihilist destroyer than an idealist. All he want to do is to prove that darkness exists in everyone.

    The fact that we can express hatred, sadness, foolness, and many other terms that define vilans in each Joker we create is really cool. Every director has its version of the Joker, and that's what makes me want to watch all these movies, again and again.
     
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