Xbox 360 Elite VS PS3 Slim

[Mangofett]

Lol, this is STILL going on? I thought I was the one who used to cause these. Or at least, argue in them..
OP, you like the PS3 so much, then just get it.

Every Pro we give for the 360, you seem to think its either not good enough, not worth it, or the PS3 has something to counter it.

So just get the PS3..honestly..

Ahh, those were the days.

OP should decide which games he likes more, and get a system off of that. To me a bluray player doesn't appeal (since I have no need for one) so you'll need to weigh it in terms of that.

Also Jaems I'm pretty sure the GPU was the limiting factor in running Gears. Also I only had a 256MB card (which could explain it lagging at high resolutions actually)

 

[Vidboy10]

If your looking for to have a blast with friends online its definitely the 360.

Hmm? PS3 owners don't play with friends?

I never understood why people say the 360 has 'better online'. It's just something all 360 owners seem to say, yet I fail to understand why? The PSN is great: It's free, I never have any lag, downloads are quick, has a very large library of games, demos, apps and trailers and what not else. And about the amount of download limit things, you can download demos as many times as you like, the only limits are the amount of systems you can download that game on. I've given a couple of my friends Wipeout HD using my PSN on their PS3s, it's great. The PS3 is basically a more expensive piece of kit, but it's money well spent. In terms of gaming, they're virtually the same, apart from a few minor things, such as game exclusives. But you're buying a lot more with a PS3, it's basically a home entertainment system in a sense, and a great gaming system. That's why I think the PS3 is a superior system to the 360.

 

[Tokiopop]

If your looking for to have a blast with friends online its definitely the 360.

Hmm? PS3 owners don't play with friends?

I never understood why people say the 360 has 'better online'. It's just something all 360 owners seem to say, yet I fail to understand why? The PSN is great: It's free, I never have any lag, downloads are quick, has a very large library of games, demos, apps and trailers and what not else. And about the amount of download limit things, you can download demos as many times as you like, the only limits are the amount of systems you can download that game on. I've given a couple of my friends Wipeout HD using my PSN on their PS3s, it's great. The PS3 is basically a more expensive piece of kit, but it's money well spent. In terms of gaming, they're virtually the same, apart from a few minor things, such as game exclusives. But you're buying a lot more with a PS3, it's basically a home entertainment system in a sense, and a great gaming system. That's why I think the PS3 is a superior system to the 360.

I agree. PSN is just as much a community as Xbox Live is.

Bt then the fanboys will bring up the 'you get what you pay for' argument. What were 360 fanboys complaining about at the PS3 launch again?Something about it being more expensive? Hmm...

 

[Keeley]

I just got a Slim 3 days ago and I play my cousins 360 all the time, I find that they are both great systems actually and they both seem to have an equal amount of pros and cons but I didn't buy the 360 cuz of the $60 a year thing

 

[deathfisaro]

If your looking for to have a blast with friends online its definitely the 360.

I never understood why people say the 360 has 'better online'.

I agree. PSN is just as much a community as Xbox Live is.

Bt then the fanboys will bring up the 'you get what you pay for' argument. What were 360 fanboys complaining about at the PS3 launch again?Something about it being more expensive? Hmm...

Basic rule of economics, if you don't think it's worth $60 a year you don't buy it. I have both consoles and I don't really find it worth $60 a year so I have silver account. (Think about it, with $60 you can pirate 40 more 360 games)

It's not so much about "you get what you pay for", because they paid $60 for it they think it's worth $60. And yet PSN is free so you won't be willing to pay $60 for a free service therefore its value to you is close to $0. Then you get the mindset that the one that costs more is the one you value more.

When online matches are P2P there's really no benefit of Live over PSN because latency depends on the compatibility between users' ISPs.
Live or PSN just scans who wants to get matched, pull people together and let them connect with each other directly.

Unless the game sells like crap, you'll get matched with someone in your area using PSN.
The true benefit of Live is that even if the game sells like crap, you'll find pirates in your area and play with them.

Proof? I'll give one example. Remember Soul Calibur IV leak and early release?
A PS3 version user in the States playing online got matched with someone from Asia and the latency was utterly garbage
360 on the other hand had more people playing online than the number of hard copies leaked therefore had a reasonable probability with getting matched with other Americans and have enjoyable latency.

 

[ZeWarrior]

Ahh, those were the days.

OP should decide which games he likes more, and get a system off of that. To me a bluray player doesn't appeal (since I have no need for one) so you'll need to weigh it in terms of that.

Also Jaems I'm pretty sure the GPU was the limiting factor in running Gears. Also I only had a 256MB card (which could explain it lagging at high resolutions actually)

The glory days..rofl. I still have a few Warn Logs from 2 years back. IMO, XBL outclasses PSN just because it gets a lot faster downloads than PSN and has Cross Game Chats/Invites. It has more than that, but those two reasons are enough to justify paying the $40 or so a year.

If you want to know why XBL is worth the money, here is a pretty good read.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2...ice.html?cat=19

 

[deathfisaro]

IMO, XBL outclasses PSN just because it gets a lot faster downloads than PSN and has Cross Game Chats

Features that also applies to Live Silver makes Live Gold worth at least $40 a year?


So here's how XBL and P2P works.
P2P is free. All you need is the other person's IP.
But if you use XBL to play online with other people, MS hides your IP from others unless you (and the person you want to play with) pay.
Even though you know the other person's IP address, XBL enforces you to pay.
They won't admit that you and your friend can have enough information to play online without paying MS.
What are you really getting from XBL Gold? Other users' IP addresses, disguised in the name of "premium service."

Yup. It should have been free, but thanks to some genius marketing from MS people actually think they're getting something worth the money.

I won't be surprised if MS starts selling canned air. Label it "Premium Air Gold" and market how it is so much cleaner than the air everybody else in the world breathes. Oh it will be a big hit guaranteed, unless iAir comes out first.

 

[Smash Br0]

I'd say go with the PS3 Slim. Free online, WiFi-capable out of the box, and plays Blu-ray discs.

 

[Tokiopop]

If your looking for to have a blast with friends online its definitely the 360.

I never understood why people say the 360 has 'better online'.

I agree. PSN is just as much a community as Xbox Live is.

Bt then the fanboys will bring up the 'you get what you pay for' argument. What were 360 fanboys complaining about at the PS3 launch again?Something about it being more expensive? Hmm...

Basic rule of economics, if you don't think it's worth $60 a year you don't buy it. I have both consoles and I don't really find it worth $60 a year so I have silver account. (Think about it, with $60 you can pirate 40 more 360 games)

It's not so much about "you get what you pay for", because they paid $60 for it they think it's worth $60. And yet PSN is free so you won't be willing to pay $60 for a free service therefore its value to you is close to $0. Then you get the mindset that the one that costs more is the one you value more.

Who's enjoying the new Halo game?
When online matches are P2P there's really no benefit of Live over PSN because latency depends on the compatibility between users' ISPs.
Live or PSN just scans who wants to get matched, pull people together and let them connect with each other directly.

Unless the game sells like crap, you'll get matched with someone in your area using PSN.
The true benefit of Live is that even if the game sells like crap, you'll find pirates in your area and play with them.

Proof? I'll give one example. Remember Soul Calibur IV leak and early release?
A PS3 version user in the States playing online got matched with someone from Asia and the latency was utterly garbage
360 on the other hand had more people playing online than the number of hard copies leaked therefore had a reasonable probability with getting matched with other Americans and have enjoyable latency.

No no no. I never said that you get what you pay for, that's the fanboys excuse. What I was saying is if you use that logic that 360 fanboys use about Live, that would mean the PS3 is a better system. According to 360 fanboys, anyway.

 

[omgpwn666]

Making a topic like this is like asking for death.

 

[deathfisaro]

No no no. I never said that you get what you pay for, that's the fanboys excuse. What I was saying is if you use that logic that 360 fanboys use about Live, that would mean the PS3 is a better system. According to 360 fanboys, anyway.

Oh I wasn't targeting you when I wrote it. I was like agreeing with you on that "you get what you pay for logic is broken" thing.
I'll be more specific next time.

 

[blackdragonbaham]

wanna have a ps3 slim, my interests to sony products increased since it got revealed, in my opinion it looks more confortable and practic than the classic model which seems to be quite to big and clumsy. the xbox 360 isn't an option anymore:.

 

[watex5]

Definately the PS3 Slim, like everyones Xbox breaks (mine wont show up on the screen -.-) and Microsoft wants to charge me €90 to fix it

 

[Joe88]

(mine wont show up on the screen -.-) and Microsoft wants to charge me €90 to fix it

off topic

do the xclamp fix

no display is caused from the GPU
it worked for mine

it didnt have any error's or red lights
just regular green power lights and 1 controller light, yet no display
before it stopped displaying the colors would distort and invert them seleves