X360Key or Flashed Drive?

Discussion in 'Xbox 360 - Hacking & Homebrew' started by tshinotu145, Jul 21, 2011.

  1. tshinotu145

    tshinotu145 Newbie

    Jul 21, 2011
    United States
    I have been thinking about hacking my Xbox lately, and at first I saw the X360Key. After finding out that you can't get on live with it I looked into flashing my drive.
    But I read that X360key is going to support custom firmware in a future update. So I recently looked into both options. Here are some questions/problems that I have with both.

    1.) I have a stock firmware on my DVD drive. Here is what X360Key says on the 'How it works' tab
    "If you have a stock drive
    a dump must be obtained using available tools (we recommend the Maximus Lizard 360)."
    I then looked into the Maximus Lizard 360, and saw that it was $100. The problem with that is, the $100 maximus + the $104 x360key would be a lot of money. I was wondering if there was a way to obtain a dump with either a cheaper tool, or for free.

    Flashing the Drive
    I would need a CK3 Pro, and CK3 Probe 3, and the X360Usb pro. Which comes to around $150, thats no problem.
    The problem is i would need Dual Layer DVDs. Those are pretty expensive. I saw a 15 pack at Best Buy for $30.

    Based on these, Which should i do?
  2. ShawnTRods

    ShawnTRods GBAtemp Psycho!

    Mar 26, 2011
    United Kingdom
    Just get it flashed by someone.
    Its not worth getting all the flashing accessories if you are just gonna flash that one Drive.

    Also, DL disc's are cheap on ebay.
  3. Da Mafia

    Da Mafia GBAtemp Regular

    Oct 27, 2004
    Firstly you would need to identify what drive you have in your Xbox, then you can look into how easy it is to dump the firmware.
  4. tshinotu145

    tshinotu145 Newbie

    Jul 21, 2011
    United States
    Im away from my xbox, but as soon as i get it ill post what drive i have.
  5. benbop1992

    benbop1992 GBAtemp Fan

    Mar 15, 2009
    As brilliant as it sounds, i kinda question the legitimentness of this, although, i do want a 360key, shame its all £75+.
  6. benson733

    benson733 Advanced Member

    Mar 7, 2011
    Alberta, Canada
    keep with disk drive flashing. Cheaper, less chance of being banned. Proven to be reliable.
  7. neotank19

    neotank19 GBAtemp Regular

    Apr 1, 2010
    United States
    Do you have any sata ports on your mother board? If so I'd go ck3like and probe 3. That's less than 50 bucks.

    Dual layer dvds are not that expensive anymore, just fine an online store like newegg and get them there.

    People swear by verbatims, but the cheaper ones always work for me. They say the cheaper ones may burn your laser out faster, but if you are loading the games on a hard drive then it don't even matter.
  8. jonesman99

    jonesman99 GBAtemp's Official ArchAndroid

    Nov 10, 2008
    United States
    A Star Called Metropolis
    I just stumbled across it today and wondered if the key works or not. I'll check on youtube to see if someone has done a review for it.
  9. superbo3

    superbo3 Advanced Member

    Dec 7, 2002
    i wouldnt trust the x360key lasts very long if c4eva is right

    [2011-06-15 06:42AM UTC] #c4e c4, changing mt chip is safe for online game?
    [2011-06-15 06:42AM UTC] #c4e You watch the New x360Key Vid c4?
    [2011-06-15 06:43AM UTC] #c4e lorca:yes
    [2011-06-15 06:44AM UTC] #c4e jester:yes, wont take MS long to make xkey a good door stop
    [2011-06-15 06:45AM UTC] #c4e c4eva, new added tweaks on all 3 slims or one in particular? and is this tweak done ?
    [2011-06-15 06:45AM UTC] #c4e diz:yes and yes
    [2011-06-15 06:47AM UTC] #c4e c4eva, why you are sure that xkex won’t be save on live?
    [2011-06-15 06:47AM UTC] #c4e sorry mean xkey
    [2011-06-15 06:48AM UTC] #c4e soon:by its very nature the emulator is just that, an emulator, and can be detected very easily
    [2011-06-15 06:48AM UTC] #c4e with a new dash update it’s maybe also possible for m4 to detect your fw
    [2011-06-15 06:49AM UTC] #c4e soon:soon:as fw is orig hardware,much harder to detect
    [2011-06-15 06:50AM UTC] #c4e ms can detect the diffrences between emulator and real and we dont know if they can detect fw
    [2011-06-15 06:50AM UTC] #c4e the question is rather, would it be possible (in theory) to make an emulator that is not detectable?
    [2011-06-15 06:52AM UTC] #c4e the problem you will have is MS will not just ban but stop the game from booting offline, so it will be useless
  10. tshinotu145

    tshinotu145 Newbie

    Jul 21, 2011
    United States
    The drive in my xbox 360 is a liteon drive. How would i obtain a dump?
  11. Armadillo

    Armadillo GBAtemp Psycho!

    Aug 28, 2003
    United Kingdom
    I'd wait and see how it fairs once it comes out. He isn't going to say good things about. Xkey is competition for xecutor and c4e is in bed with them. If it works and works well, it won't take long for xecutor to make a copy and suddenly the tone will change and it'll be safe, but only their one as it's backed by him.
  12. FAST6191

    FAST6191 Techromancer

    pip Reporter
    Nov 21, 2005
    United Kingdom
    Assuming it is not a slim (things are a bit up in the air right now on the slim with new firmwares locking things down, lots of models and several methods of doing things) there are 4 main "models" (technically 3 but most work with 4), ignoring small changes and slim stuff they are all the same drive but with various firmwares.

    Look at the manufacture date on your 360. Dates are not so firm around changeover points but you can get an idea

    7 series (appeared in April 2008)
    8v1 (appeared in June 2009 although repair shops used it at first)

    8v2 and 9 appeared around the same time (late October 2009) and stuck around until the slim appeared.

    All can be dumped with MRA/pin lift (you can do it with wires and little else or you can buy a cheap PCB or you can splash out on a fancy probe) or pogo ma thoin (which can be made with basic tools- there was a big contest at the time of release that cooked up hundreds of variations) which is the suggested method these days for most people that want to do this method. If you had it flashed with LT and have no key then chances are you will need to do that hack regardless of model (there was a hacked version of LT that added the 7 series probe hack back but you probably will not have this).

    The 7 series can be dumped with a probe. You can buy a probe (will usually come as an extra to drive powering tools) or you can make one for next to nothing (either serial or buy a USB to serial cable and mod that)
    The 8v1 can be dumped with just a compatible sata card.
    The 8v2 and 9 series are effectively the same thing but the sticker on top can start with 8 or 9. These need MRA or pogo ma thoin.

    On top of this there are also a few devices like the x360usb pro and 360 Lizard appearing that act as standalone drive flashing tools but the ultimately do the same methods just without the need to beat windows and a sata card (or your sata drivers if you have a compatible motherboard) into shape.

    Edit: @benbop1992 there was a mod to a PC type DVD drive to allow it to run in a 360 some time ago- http://www.xboxhacker.org/index.php?topic=8335.0 and we had similar things for the GC and commercial stuff for the wii that did it.
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