I have been thinking about hacking my Xbox lately, and at first I saw the X360Key. After finding out that you can't get on live with it I looked into flashing my drive. But I read that X360key is going to support custom firmware in a future update. So I recently looked into both options. Here are some questions/problems that I have with both. X360Key ----------- 1.) I have a stock firmware on my DVD drive. Here is what X360Key says on the 'How it works' tab "If you have a stock drive a dump must be obtained using available tools (we recommend the Maximus Lizard 360)." I then looked into the Maximus Lizard 360, and saw that it was $100. The problem with that is, the $100 maximus + the $104 x360key would be a lot of money. I was wondering if there was a way to obtain a dump with either a cheaper tool, or for free. Flashing the Drive ----------------------- I would need a CK3 Pro, and CK3 Probe 3, and the X360Usb pro. Which comes to around $150, thats no problem. The problem is i would need Dual Layer DVDs. Those are pretty expensive. I saw a 15 pack at Best Buy for $30. Based on these, Which should i do?