X or O?

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  1. Metoroid0
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    Why do Japanese use O button to advance through menu​
    or just use O as primary button, and X button to go back or secondary,​
    where Rest of the world uses X to advance and O to go back in PSP games?​
    I mean, they might be doing the same thing on PlayStation home consoles,
    but i Have just PSP so i don't know. But i DO know that
    in European games on Home consoles i Use X as primary button.
    Is there some hidden meaning behind this or just "what the heck, lets be different" ...?​
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  2. Sporky McForkinspoon

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    It's because traditionally in Japan an O or maru is used as a symbol for yes, and X or batsu is used for no. When SoA localized the first games they decided that Americans would prefer the opposite, and that the main button for input should be on the bottom. To me I don't really care which they had chosen, but I do wish that they had stuck with O as the main input so that when I play foreign games or the localizer doesn't follow conventions I don't push the wrong button by reflex.

    Kingdom Hearts 3D did this when they switched convention from attack being on the bottom and jump on the right to the standard Japanese inputs on the 3DS and it bugs me every time I play it.
     
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    It's hilarious when you play import games and the PS3 save/load screen pops up. The game itself has O yes/X no, but the save menu is a part of the PS3 OS and has X yes/O no. Took me quite a while to get used to inverting my buttons for saving and loading.
     
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    I love that most PSP CFWs have the option to invert the X/O settings.
     
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    A possible culprit could be Nintendo always using the right (A) button to confirm since the 8-bit days (an understandable necessity given the lack of a 'down' button then).
    Sony Japan maybe was worried their home country would be less willing to depart tradition than the west back in 1995 when they released the PSX. (focus research and all)
     
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    You can??
     
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    Yeah, nintendo came to my mind also when i thought about that, and as Sporky McForkinspoon said, Maru (O) is used as sign of accepting something... but than again, why not stick to the tradition and use it ewerywhere, like Nintendo does.. you dont see nintendo making non japanese games with B eing the primary button...
     
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    ahahaha but HOOW? :D
     
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    It may be annoying, but you get used with this. At the start of "PES-Winning Eleven X Fifa" war we had this problem with Square and Circle buttons during the game itself. Now I think that any soccer-game player is used with both schemes (even when got a favourite one)
     
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    Uh shit... I haven't gone to that part of the settings in a while and don't have the psp with me. Anyone want to help me out, otherwise I'll type it up for you when I get home in a few hours.

    IIRC you should get into the CFW settings by pressing select on the main screen if you boot up without a UMD in, explore from there.
     
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    Fully shutdown, hold R, power on, Registry hack, swap x/o.
    If you have a newer cfw, you can also enter recovery mode with select in the xmb menu, then registry hack, swap x/o
     
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    Thanks :D what would we do without hacking :D
     
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    AFAIK that works for the PSP menu only, no games.
     
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    :( but at least i can save and navigate normally :D
     
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    I haven't tried it in a while, but I seem to recall the same option being available in the settings for games on mine. I don't remember what the default button to bring up that menu is as I've remapped it to require the wlan switch to be on and then press the brightness button.
     
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    It's xmb only, if you guys are talking about the same option.
    Plugins like macrofire can be configured to switch the buttons when activated, or any of the buttons for that matter.
     
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    That could be, I mostly use my PSP as an MP3 player any more. Until I finish the Sword Art patch, anyway.
     
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    Some of the older PS1 games actually used to use 'triangle" as the back button. I think somewhere around the PS2 era things started changing.
     
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    Yeah i noticed that also..annoying
    But as kid ,i newer payed much attention on those things :D