Hello, since my being here i learned a lot, i modded 20 wii's allready. on the older wii's i'll throw the ultimate guide(with a few modifications to some things) on it including cioscorp. on new lu64 wii's i just use tbr ciosrev## then a backup loader of some kind and not to forget about preloader. But where does dop-ios come into play??? for what purpose could i use this prgram? the question came into my mind after this one post i read about some dude claiming he had a unmoddable lu70 console. Where WIIPOWER only asked one question to the guy. "Did you downgrade ios35" well, maybe the question is for wiipower, but how did you know he messed with ios35, and also why whould the guy want to use dop ios to downgrade ios35? can someone please clear this up for me? cos i don't get the ios35 part. i undersrtand tbr, downgrade 15, patch the tb to ios 36, then run 36 to restore 15. I still don't know how wiipower found this bug and made such a nice program for it, but i know how it works and why it has to do those things. Also, whats more on my mind, is that i read in some post (metroid prime trilogy) some dude said that geckoos would install the necessary ios's needed for a particulair game. Must i interpret from this that geckos just uses the ios the gae needs to run it? OFFTOPIC My GF Just gave birth to our beautifull son Named Jordy. Same i'm happy happy happy happy, i'm one happy mf. Since my gf is in the hospital with my son. i'm all alone celebrating this Glorious event with a big fat joint on my lips.