Would Full Dive VR cause human extinction?

[fieryfox269]

If we have full dive VR would there still be people living in real life? Maybe it comes down to personal preference? I am mainly referring to systems such as Neuralink, or Brain Computer Interfaces, not headsets.i.e sao, the matrix etc

Excluding factors such as morals and religion, eating and drinking, bodily functions, need for money(maybe we can make a living in VR?), need to reproduce.

Or we could have the majority people who spend the majority of time in the real world (in other words split time between real life and FIVR), or some people who spend their entire lives in full time.

Maybe the definition of reality could be extended to include VR metaverses as viable living spaces

In VR people can do things such as fly, and do magic effects which can't be done in the real world which increases their happiness. Or even people can have virtual girlfriends, kids or families.

Would we get a 75 percent uptake maybe?

Thanks

 

[FAST6191]

If we are "Excluding factors such as morals and religion" then that makes things more fun as I have learned never to bet on the absence of religious weirdos doing odd things (see those with things against modern medicine, vaccinations, blood transfusions, watching TV, the thousand different dietary restrictions and more besides).

You can do anything and you would choose to have kids? Bizarre. Though I suppose self flagellation has been a pastime for thousands of years.

There would probably be some that fetishise the real, and possibly find something interesting to do in it. That said I don't see why it would not end up a very popular activity, and if it is full immersion that almost necessarily opens the door to brain emulation, augmentation, biological needs to be fulfilled elsewhere and so on and so on.

 

[fhc]

Sorry bad english
I think what will cause human extinction will be a new World War. For sure it will happens first that the technology development arrives at stage of being possible a VR like you think.

 

[eyeliner]

Yes, it will. We shall become the Matrix and Surrogates.

 

[Stwert]

Human extinction will never happen, outside of an ELE, male extinction though? I’m pretty sure once they find a reliable way to synthesise sperm, we’re out of here

 

[FAST6191]

Human extinction will never happen, outside of an ELE, male extinction though? I’m pretty sure once they find a reliable way to synthesise sperm, we’re out of here

In a century or two maybe space travel will be enough that it needs some aliens or maybe just a really well (or poorly as the case may be) aimed gamma ray burst to properly do it but that is still a bit out and a nice thin skinned president could kick things off.

As for human sperm then things are pretty close (artificial mouse sperm has created viable creatures https://www.theguardian.com/science...ice-raising-hopes-for-end-to-male-infertility , and it has been quite a while since mice aiming to produce other animal, including human, sperm has been in the final stages https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uk...-be-used-to-create-human-sperm-factories.html ), but so are artificial wombs
https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/25/...uterus-lamb-sheep-birth-premie-preterm-infant
and eggs also appear on the cards https://www.ft.com/content/70345084-0cc7-11e8-8eb7-42f857ea9f09 (large gametes can be more tricky here), to say nothing of you technically being able to have three biological parents for a while now https://www.jci.org/articles/view/124944 https://translationalneurodegeneration.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40035-019-0158-8

Of course other than artificial wombs then that may not be necessary either as stem cells might be able to do the job
https://www.newscientist.com/articl...nerated-without-sperm-or-eggs-for-first-time/
https://www.ft.com/content/70345084-0cc7-11e8-8eb7-42f857ea9f09

 

[Taleweaver]

The short answer is simple : no, it won't. Trends that have a diminishing factor in human population will never become the norm, let alone be so much everywhere that it eventually wipes out humanity. It's already mentioned in some posts, and I'll bring in a few more : humanity will, as a whole, never be comfortable enough to dabble in leisures of VR. Granted, technologies as smartphones have conquered the world as well, but even if Vr becomes equally affordable, not everyone has enough free time to spare to become addicted enough to neglect other crucial tasks. Do you really see doctors, nurses or many others doing important work drop that just to live in a fictional world? What about homeless people, people who have children to raise or elders to take care of?
I could go on... The bottom line : people will maintain the real world no matter what happens.

The danger, however, is in what impact it might have. We already see that with video games and e.g. The sex industry offering real life dolls. This, and probably the anonimity of the internet as well, causes a group that turns away from real relationships in favor of fictional ones (MGTOW, radical feminists, red pillers, you name it). Because i've got to be honest : real relationships are hard to get and maintain. It usually involves the other sex, BTW.

In the long run, this doesn't matter, albeit for a morbid reason : those who maintain this lifestyle will die out. And that brings me back to vr: yes, there'll be people who dismiss the rest of their potential life for virtual achievements. But likewise, there have been people who drank themselves to death, committed suicide or otherwise dropped out of the genre pool. Heck... These things still happen! It's those who have children who will determine how the next generation will look like