Will we ever get a proper CFW?

Discussion in '3DS - Flashcards & Custom Firmwares' started by DanielC, Jun 21, 2015.

  1. DanielC

    DanielC Member

    Dec 9, 2007
    United States
    Something that installs to the device like it does with PS3 and PSP hacking? I've tried reading some guides and managed to successfully downgrade my 3DS using the browser exploit, but I haven't tried anything after that as it seems unnecessarily complex.
  2. dkabot

    dkabot Better With Others' Systems Than Their Own

    Sep 9, 2014
    United States
    It's a modified firmware, thus it's custom. The fact that PS3 and PSP can have custom firmware that installs permanently is coincidence, see 6.60 on PSP Go or Street where one must use FastRecovery to launch it every cold boot.
  3. Vappy

    Vappy GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

    May 23, 2012
    Permanent install is just another feature, not the defining aspect of a 'proper' CFW. By the strictest definition, the only thing that'd truly count as a custom firmware would be one written from scratch (like PSP uOFW), since anything else is just a modified firmware.
  4. DSpider

    DSpider GBAtemp Fan

    Mar 14, 2015
    Oh, wow... This thread again.

    Because there is no currently known/public bootloader exploit. And because keys, keys, keys. We can't sign shit. Only Nintendo can. Even if you develop the most sophisticated 3DS homebrew, without signing it, it won't run on OFW ("sysNAND"). You always need an entry point (Cubic Ninja, Zelda OOT, etc) to patch out the signature checks from the firmware that's loaded in RAM.

    Rebooting the 3DS (i.e. turning it off and then back on again) clears the RAM and all the changes made in RAM, and then the boot process starts from the beginning. And then anything that's installed and not signed by Nintendo simply won't run. Attempting to install a modified bootloader without it having being signed by Nintendo results 100% in a brick.
    Last edited by DSpider, Jun 21, 2015
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  5. WulfyStylez

    WulfyStylez SALT/Bemani Princess

    Nov 3, 2013
    United States
    Yup, this. The only consoles that have had on-boot hacks generally either had weak/no security (PS2, Xbox, Wii, etc) or fairly complicated exploits to get execution at boot (360, PS3 kinda). It's a matter of an exploit existing, and currently there aren't any public bootrom exploits for someone to work with to enable this functionality.