Hacking Question Will the OLED Switch be SX-Core compatible?

[hippy dave]

So this forum doesn’t end up in the eof, we should at least try to find some exploits

Ok you go first

 

[Plazorn]

Why hasn’t anyone made a flashcart? That would be perfect for the v2 and OLED. It could obtain codes from something like the USB Helper, that the Switch would recognize as legit, it could also have the ability to run .nro, so the hbl would not be left out.

 

[0x3000027E]

The same individuals looked at mariko and couldnt find anything.

Yes, dead on.
Exploit required hardware glitch, Team Xecuter's bread-and-butter.

 

[Dust2dust]

Why hasn’t anyone made a flashcart? That would be perfect for the v2 and OLED. It could obtain codes from something like the USB Helper, that the Switch would recognize as legit, it could also have the ability to run .nro, so the hbl would not be left out.

The SX core modchip factories were shut down pretty early, and a modchip is way harder to use than a flashcart for the end user. Do you actually believe that a flashcart factory would have a better chance of surviving?

 

[Plazorn]

What if they advertise it as an extra SD card slot?

 

[Shubshub]

Why hasn’t anyone made a flashcart? That would be perfect for the v2 and OLED. It could obtain codes from something like the USB Helper, that the Switch would recognize as legit, it could also have the ability to run .nro, so the hbl would not be left out.

The SX core modchip factories were shut down pretty early, and a modchip is way harder to use than a flashcart for the end user. Do you actually believe that a flashcart factory would have a better chance of surviving?

Not to mention that if it were so easy to make a flashcard one would already exist.

Its the same deal as the 3DS except way stronger gamecard security, Its not as simple as "Hi console this is what game I am running here is all the information"

Sky3DS was an anomaly that nobody else was really able to replicate and only works with legitimate non-modified games by pretending to be a legitamite game card to its core

I wouldnt doubt there being increased shenanigans going on with Switch GameCards to prevent something like that

 

[Arakon]

Chances are also high that a flash cart would require the use of original Nintendo code as identification, which would make them wide, wide open for lawsuits.. just like what happened with TX.

 

[Blavla]

The SX core modchip factories were shut down pretty early, and a modchip is way harder to use than a flashcart for the end user. Do you actually believe that a flashcart factory would have a better chance of surviving?

Tha flashcard is not so a big problem. The problem is that the N patented the formfactor of the gamecard That´s why Dragon Injector died too

 

[Retrojunkies]

Definitely not. I am hoping that it inspires the community to look for a new exploit though since no one really cared about Mariko units (except team xecuter)

its because all software exploits or entry points had been patched.

just because you think definately not, will NOT inspire anyone to do it, if it was the case, then it would have been done already.

its getting boring now seeing users keep re wording the same effing thing.

if there was a new exploit that would allow users to run cfw, then it would have been done by now.

only way to do this is via hardware mod, now thats made even harder with tx marketers been caught.

your either left with fake cheap china clones, but i highly doubt anyone will a new hardware mod.

and i cant see the new oled models blocking them either unless they rehauled the motherboard, tho the oled models are pointless just another way for nintendo to crap out another model and its cost increase for the oled isnt worth it at all.

 

[SecureBoot]

its because all software exploits or entry points had been patched.

just because you think definately not, will NOT inspire anyone to do it, if it was the case, then it would have been done already.

its getting boring now seeing users keep re wording the same effing thing.

if there was a new exploit that would allow users to run cfw, then it would have been done by now.

only way to do this is via hardware mod, now thats made even harder with tx marketers been caught.

your either left with fake cheap china clones, but i highly doubt anyone will a new hardware mod.

and i cant see the new oled models blocking them either unless they rehauled the motherboard, tho the oled models are pointless just another way for nintendo to crap out another model and its cost increase for the oled isnt worth it at all.

I'm not trying to inspire anyone. I'm saying the new hardware might. All software exploits have been patched but that doesn't mean new ones won't come. The fact that they haven't been found yet doesn't mean they don't exist, it means that people don't care to look for them.

There's no point in getting tired of new users asking questions. This is a forum for asking questions. It's not physically strenuous in any way (unless your keyboard is really heavy) and you can always choose to not reply

 

[hippy dave]

IAll software exploits have been patched but that doesn't mean new ones won't come. The fact that they haven't been found yet doesn't mean they don't exist, it means that people don't care to look for them.

I told you all the relevant code has been gone over with a fine-tooth comb, but ok, keep saying people can't be bothered.

Everyone who keeps saying there's bound to be something that hasn't been found yet isn't aware that this modern system we're dealing with is not like a couple of generations ago where finding a flaw in any random part of the operating system could potentially lead to escalation to take over the whole system. Save-game exploits are useless. Exploits in random system apps are useless. You need to get access to the kernel, which on the Switch is called a microkernel because everything apart from the most vital code has been moved elsewhere, for security reasons. The fact that the kernel is micro also means it's small enough that it has indeed been thoroughly investigated for hack potential. There's nothing left to find. There's another security layer I forget the name of now which is also similarly small and tight and lacking in more potential hacks.

 

[magypsy3]

I've Got Balls But None of them are Crystal

 

[hippy dave]

I've Got Balls But None of them are Crystal

That can be remedied with a relatively simple surgery

 

[SecureBoot]

I told you all the relevant code has been gone over with a fine-tooth comb, but ok, keep saying people can't be bothered.

Everyone who keeps saying there's bound to be something that hasn't been found yet isn't aware that this modern system we're dealing with is not like a couple of generations ago where finding a flaw in any random part of the operating system could potentially lead to escalation to take over the whole system. Save-game exploits are useless. Exploits in random system apps are useless. You need to get access to the kernel, which on the Switch is called a microkernel because everything apart from the most vital code has been moved elsewhere, for security reasons. The fact that the kernel is micro also means it's small enough that it has indeed been thoroughly investigated for hack potential. There's nothing left to find. There's another security layer I forget the name of now which is also similarly small and tight and lacking in more potential hacks.

I can't think of a kind way to say this, but please give me a break. Clearly we are operate under different assumptions on most things. It's not even a concept of one of us being right and one of us being wrong. We're thinking in entirely different spaces. I respect where you're coming from and what you think, but I do not agree with you. I'm getting a little bored of all the quotes from you dogging on me though. Feel free to respond to op with ideas contradictory than mine, but please stop quoting me in them

 

[hippy dave]

Ok cool no more quoting. We can stay in our different spaces, mine with facts and knowledge quoted from the people in the scene with the best idea what they're talking about, and yours where you say those people haven't bothered trying.

 

[Anxiety_timmy]

 

[SecureBoot]

Still an attack on my character but I surrender

 

[ewabc886]

What I would really like to know is if we can put the unpatched board in the OLED shell
It seems that the 3.5mm aux hole and the power / volume buttons are all at the same place as before
If the battery and screen are better, and the connectors allow
it's great to upgrade our systems with the new screen

 

[Deleted member 514389]

Personally I think the days of "Nintendo Hacking" are counted.

We got one last "gift" by NVIDIA emselves...

But you can bet Ninty (and the economist head -furukawa himself) will very well prevent this...

Flashcards are already a thing of the past due to the Switches card-readers encryption.
You can't import images to your switches image gallery, hasn't got a music player either.
The switch is barebones, preventing many loopholes present in previous Ninty systems...

I'd not hold my breath for anything.
Be happy something exists for the current switch (V1) as-is.
RCM is already quite the hassle eitherhow.

What I would really like to know is if we can put the unpatched board in the OLED shell
It seems that the 3.5mm aux hole and the power / volume buttons are all at the same place as before
If the battery and screen are better, and the connectors allow
it's great to upgrade our systems with the new screen

Well...
You can bet that some things will prevent this venture.
I'm pretty sure at least some chipsets are present on the OLED to interface with the OLED screen...
Those missing from the old V1 boards... you get the picture.

I'd be very surprised if that'd work.

#Sidenote:
Can't wait for an OLED teardown.
I wanna see how they did the microSD Port.
Fingers crossed for "Lite" -esque soldering to the board.

 

[ewabc886]

Personally I think the days of "Nintendo Hacking" are counted.

We got one last "gift" by NVIDIA emselves...

But you can bet Ninty (and the economist head -furukawa himself) will very well prevent this...

Flashcards are already a thing of the past due to the Switches card-readers encryption.
You can't import images to your switches image gallery, hasn't got a music player either.
The switch is barebones, preventing many loopholes present in previous Ninty systems...

I'd not hold my breath for anything.
Be happy something exists for the current switch (V1) as-is.
RCM is already quite the hassle eitherhow.


Well...
You can bet that some things will prevent this venture.
I'm pretty sure at least some chipsets are present on the OLED to interface with the OLED screen...
Those missing from the old V1 boards... you get the picture.

I'd be very surprised if that'd work.

#Sidenote:
Can't wait for an OLED teardown.
I wanna see how they did the microSD Port.
Fingers crossed for "Lite" -esque soldering to the board.

It may looks strange to think that the OLED can be used on the LCD connectors
What I expected is that LCD needs the backlight + signal connectors
OLED should not need the backlight, but still need those power pins
also i expect the signal from the board to the screen should stay the same for the ease of manufacturing and developing
and therefore the hope of the connectors should work
anyway, we need to wait and see