Hacking Question Will Switch 3.0.0 require a hardmod?

[Pippin666]

so there are a limited number of updates ninty can push until all the fuses are blown?

No, people say "fuses fuses fuses" all the time, but they are in reality efuses. You should read about that.

Pip'

 

[HamBone41801]

No, people say "fuses fuses fuses" all the time, but they are in reality efuses. You should read about that.

Pip'

Thanks for the reply. In that case, once the switch is hacked, can't we just change the efuses?

 

[StonedPurple]

Thanks for the reply. In that case, once the switch is hacked, can't we just change the efuses?

I don't think it works that way. They aren't just plugged into sockets like you'd find in your car. I'm pretty sure they're soldered onto the circuit board.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

If you are referring to a hardmod as in a modchip, I doubt it considering how much room the Switch has (or lack of) for extra stuff in the shell.
If you mean like a hardware downgrade like 3DS had, This will be impossible unless an RGH like solution was developed. The eFuses blow for each update so the Switch will throw an error (and blow an eFuse so Nintendo knows you tried if you send it in for Warranty work) when downgraded.

Not only that, from what I understood it actually bricks itself if you try to downgrade it.

A twitter post came out saying that Homebrew or an exploit will still work on 3.0.0, however some places state that something on 3.0.0 was patched that allowed some sort of system module to work.

First of all, I know the Switch obviously will have an exploit on 3.0.0 and below but everything that is told on the Switch Brew wiki is confusing for just an average user like me.

So what does any of this mean? http://switchbrew.org/index.php?title=Switch_System_Flaws&type=revision&diff=958&oldid=159

AFAIK nothing important was patched in 3.0.0. Not so sure about 3.0.1 though.
But it's way too early for a kernel exploit or anything like that yet, and there's no telling what firmwares such an exploit will work on when it's eventually released.

 

[Deleted User]

https://gbatemp.net/threads/switch-...t-has-downgrade-protection-with-fuses.478820/
Hardmod is where you solder shit to other shit so it downgrades the shit, right? (I don't know what it entirely does.) But I think the Switch detects if you hardmod.

 

[magico29]

Not only that, from what I understood it actually bricks itself if you try to downgrade it.

AFAIK nothing important was patched in 3.0.0. Not so sure about 3.0.1 though.
But it's way too early for a kernel exploit or anything like that yet, and there's no telling what firmwares such an exploit will work on when it's eventually released.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/switch-...t-has-downgrade-protection-with-fuses.478820/
Hardmod is where you solder shit to other shit so it downgrades the shit, right? (I don't know what it entirely does.) But I think the Switch detects if you hardmod.

you better watch your language sir!!

 

[grossaffe]

Switch 3.0.0 will be 100% unhackable and we'll never ever get homebrew.

 

[Deleted User]

you better watch your language sir!!

shit lol

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[NWPlayer123]

I love how everyone's just blindly waiting on 3.0.0 even tho an exploit isn't gonna be released for another few months, they know stuff was patched but nobody's released anything yet and I don't expect them to ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Bladexdsl]

modchips...wow they still do them?!

 

[petethepug]

I love how everyone's just blindly waiting on 3.0.0 even tho an exploit isn't gonna be released for another few months, they know stuff was patched but nobody's released anything yet and I don't expect them to ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

patience is key pretty much.

 

[Bladexdsl]

I love how everyone's just blindly waiting on 3.0.0 even tho an exploit isn't gonna be released for another few YEARS

fix'd

 

[NWPlayer123]

fix'd

they hacked it "fully" in 4 months, do you really expect it to take that long lmao

 

[Deleted-355425]

Switch 3.0.0 will be 100% unhackable and we'll never ever get homebrew.

Just as well mines 2.2.0 then

 

[Bladexdsl]

they hacked it "fully" in 4 months, do you really expect it to take that long lmao

where's the youtuve vid showing it fully hacked? you seem to be a little confused the 3ds and wiiu are FULLY hacked

 

[Ryccardo]

so there are a limited number of updates ninty can push until all the fuses are blown?

Yes but with 2 caveats

"Limited" means the opposite of "infinite", not that the number is so small you should be happy

They are not forced to add to the fuse count - they could release 69.0.0 and 69.0.1 both requiring 84 fuses to be cleared (and yes, it would technically be possible to restore a 69.0.0 backup over 69.0.1 in this case)

 

[Deleted User]

I love how everyone's just blindly waiting on 3.0.0 even tho an exploit isn't gonna be released for another few months, they know stuff was patched but nobody's released anything yet and I don't expect them to ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I know right, I don't understand how people think that 3.0.0 is gonna be hacked so soon, I updated to 3.0.1 and there's gonna be a greater chance that the Switch will be hacked on much later firmwares, because the hackers need to find vulnerabilities in more recent firmwares.

 

[Deleted-355425]

I know right, I don't understand how people think that 3.0.0 is gonna be hacked so soon, I updated to 3.0.1 and there's gonna be a greater chance that the Switch will be hacked on much later firmwares, because the hackers need to find vulnerabilities in more recent firmwares.

This would normally be the case but now the exploits now get sold for $$$, this means the only exploits we are going to get are on old firmware's that have already been patched.

 

[petethepug]

I know right, I don't understand how people think that 3.0.0 is gonna be hacked so soon, I updated to 3.0.1 and there's gonna be a greater chance that the Switch will be hacked on much later firmwares, because the hackers need to find vulnerabilities in more recent firmwares.

Well, everyone has an interpretation of how it might be hacked & what might be the best method to enjoying the console but everything here is all just speculation for the moment.

Who knows maybe 3.0.1 could be hacked, so it wouldn't matter if people were on the latest fw anyway.

 

[PatrickJr]

Since I've been pretty late to most scenes, I got the New 3DS late into homebrew dev, luckily I got in just in time and I have Luma on 11.5, How long did it take for homebrew to hit the 3DS?
This time I finally got a Switch, I know it maybe a few months later. it's currently on 3.0.1