Hacking Question Will I get banned?

[Lacius]

Why don’t you just connect your switch to the WiFi like normal and see, if you have been issued a ban, it will be banned nothing can change this or stop this from happening my odds on you won’t be as long as you have been honest in your opening post on what you have done.

My Nintendo account is still working, isn’t this an indicator that I’m not banned? I know that the ban is hardware specific but the account is an indicator?!

That's a great way to get banned if the NAND is dirty. One should never connect a dirty NAND to the internet without 90DNS and/or Incognito.

 

[Reecey]

That's a great way to get banned if the NAND is dirty. One should never connect a dirty NAND to the internet without 90DNS and/or Incognito.

You cannot stop a ban, period! Once the payload has been sent to your console automatically there is nothing you can do the only way to find out is by connecting your switch to the WiFi and loading eshop or run an update etc..

 

[LeMageFro]

Why don’t you just connect your switch to the WiFi like normal and see, if you have been issued a ban, it will be banned nothing can change this or stop this from happening my odds on you won’t be as long as you have been honest in your opening post on what you have done.

That sounds like pretty terrible advice to me, if he never connected his switch to nintendo's servers while on his dirty sysNAND or emuMMC there is no reason for him to be banned yet since his switch didn't get a chance to send compromising info to nintendo, but if he connects to them now he may very well get banned ! Don't do that akey, if you find a way to restore your clean backup you may very well be fine !

 

[Lacius]

You cannot stop a ban, period! Once the payload has been sent to your console automatically there is nothing you can do the only way to find out is by connecting your switch to the WiFi and loading eshop or run an update etc..

Again, if the NAND is dirty but the console hasn't been banned, connecting to the internet with that dirty NAND (without 90DNS and/or Incognito) to check if you're banned is a great way to get banned. In other words, one should only use a dirty NAND online with 90DNS and/or Incognito installed (since that will prevent a ban), and if one wants to check if he or she is banned (or if one just wants to use Nintendo online services like the eShop or online play), one should only do so using a clean NAND.

 

[Reecey]

That sounds like pretty terrible advice to me, if he never connected his switch to nintendo's servers while on his dirty sysNAND or emuMMC there is no reason for him to be banned yet since his switch didn't get a chance to send compromising info to nintendo, but if he connects to them now he may very well get banned ! Don't do that akey, if you find a way to restore your clean backup you may very well be fine !

What I am saying is if he has already used cfw, nsp etc.. and he wants to use online features now the only way he can find out if he is “not banned” is by setting up his wifi and checking his online features work. A ban will of been sent by now “if it has” the payload and there is nothing he can do to stop it!

 

[LeMageFro]

You cannot stop a ban, period! Once the payload has been sent to your console automatically there is nothing you can do the only way to find out is by connecting your switch to the WiFi and loading eshop or run an update etc..

Dude, no offense but I don't think you know what you're talking about. Sending a payload to your switch is not what gets you banned in itself. What gets you banned is if HOS detects anything shady happened (you installed illegal NSPs, you erased some of the error logs or generated shady error logs by using homebrew, etc) and then communicates that to nintendo's servers. For exemple if you only send the payload to use android it never boots HOS and does not modify anything on your sysNAND so there is no way for nintendo to know about it.

 

[Lacius]

What I am saying is if he has already used cfw, nsp etc.. and he wants to use online features now the only way he can find out if he is “not banned” is by setting up his wifi and checking his online features work.

This is correct, but unless the NAND is clean when checking, the process of checking might get him banned if he isn't already.

 

[akey83]

as mentioned before I never went online with the dirty Nand. I always used 90DNS since day one.

 

[Reecey]

Dude, no offense but I don't think you know what you're talking about. Sending a payload to your switch is not what gets you banned in itself. What gets you banned is if HOS detects anything shady happened (you installed illegal NSPs, you erased some of the error logs or generated shady error logs by using homebrew, etc) and then communicates that to nintendo's servers. For exemple if you only send the payload to use android it never boots HOS and does not modify anything on your sysNAND so there is no way for nintendo to know about it.

I know exactly what I am talking about, it’s the error that activates the log that are sent back to Nintendo then it’s automatically decided and then the ban “payload” is sent to your console. Trust me if his console is banned already there is nothing he can do other than check himself.

 

[Lacius]

I know exactly what I am talking about, it’s the error that activates the log that are sent back to Nintendo then it’s automatically decided and then the ban “payload” is sent to your console. Trust me if his console is banned already there is nothing he can do other than check himself.

Your advice was bad. OP probably isn't banned already since he has been using 90DNS allegedly. If he checks if he's banned by removing 90DNS without cleaning his NAND first, he will get banned because he checked if he was banned.

 

[LeMageFro]

I know exactly what I am talking about, it’s the error that activates the log that are sent back to Nintendo then it’s automatically decided and then the ban “payload” is sent to your console. Trust me if his console is banned already there is nothing he can do other than check himself.

Ok man, that sentence made a lot of sense, thanks for educating me ho great master of the ban arcanes.
Haha I'm kidding I don't mean to be rude but please consider learning a bit more. If you have any clear and compelling arguments explaining why what I said is incorrect I will gladly hear them and admit my mistakes, but "then it’s automatically decided and then the ban “payload” is sent to your console" sounds like plain nonsense to me.

 

[Reecey]

Your advice was bad. OP probably isn't banned already since he has been using 90DNS allegedly. If he checks if he's banned by removing 90DNS without cleaning his NAND first, he will get banned because he checked if he was banned.

You not understanding what I am saying the ban will of been issued already, if it has? Maybe, maybe not, he doesn’t know that as yet until he’s connected his switch to WiFi but the only way to really find out is by connecting his console to WiFi and testing eshop or an update or something even an advert from Nintendo would do. He cannot stop his ban, it’s inevitable! He might not even be banned but he cannot do nothing about it, he cannot stop it.

 

[Lacius]

You not understanding what I am saying the ban will of been issued already, if it has? Maybe, maybe not, he doesn’t know that as yet but the only way to find out is by connecting his console to WiFi and testing eshop or an update or something even an advert from Nintendo would do. He cannot stop his ban, it’s inevitable! He might not even be banned but he cannot do nothing about it, he cannot stop it.

Yes, if he's banned or flagged to be banned, there is nothing he can do. If, however, he is not banned nor flagged to be banned (which is likely if he's been using 90DNS), then checking if he's banned using the dirty NAND will get him banned. The NAND needs to be clean before checking.

I'm not sure how else to put it.

 

[LeMageFro]

You not understanding what I am saying the ban will of been issued already, if it has? Maybe, maybe not, he doesn’t know that as yet but the only way to find out is by connecting his console to WiFi and testing eshop or an update or something even an advert from Nintendo would do. He cannot stop his ban, it’s inevitable! He might not even be banned but he cannot do nothing about it, he cannot stop it.

Please explain how the ban can be issued already if his console never communicated with nintendo's servers ? Sure his current dirty nand probably contains a log that says that he should get banned, but the whole point of restoring a clean nand is to go back to a point before his nand even contained such log, isn't it ?

 

[Lumince]

I know exactly what I am talking about, it’s the error that activates the log that are sent back to Nintendo then it’s automatically decided and then the ban “payload” is sent to your console. Trust me if his console is banned already there is nothing he can do other than check himself.

If all connections to nintendo are off then the logs were never sent in the first place. Nintendo doeant send a ban payload to the switch... Thats server side and they ban the cert on their side.. And if it isnt banned checking it with a dirty nand is a 100% way to get it flagged and eventually banned.

as mentioned before I never went online with the dirty Nand. I always used 90DNS since day one.

Like @Lacius and @LeMageFro are saying restore that clean nand backup and the generated boot0/1's before connecting to the Nintendo servers. Theres always a chance that its banned but you never know until you try with a "clean" nand

 

[Reecey]

Ok man, that sentence made a lot of sense, thanks for educating me ho great master of the ban arcanes.
Haha I'm kidding I don't mean to be rude but please consider learning a bit more. If you have any clear and compelling arguments explaining why what I said is incorrect I will gladly hear them and admit my mistakes, but "then it’s automatically decided and then the ban “payload” is sent to your console" sounds like plain nonsense to me.

I’m just simply saying it in layman’s terms without going into great detail a payload is data “the ban” that is sent to a destination ie his switch from Nintendo headquarters, soon as that switch connects to the worlds web the ban is then activated on the console this then bans his switch ASAP and there is nothing he can do to stop this automated procedure from happening.

 

[Mythical]

The dirty nand has less risks than your current nand (as in the one you didn't install games onto is safer), but you can still get banned for use of either if you go online

 

[Lacius]

The dirty nand has less risks than your current nand (as in the one you didn't install games onto is safer), but you can still get banned for use of either if you go online

A NAND backup made before homebrew usage and NSP installation is called a "clean NAND backup," not a dirty NAND.

 

[RedBlueGreen]

A NAND backup made before homebrew usage and NSP installation is called a "clean NAND backup," not a dirty NAND.

How do you even get a clean NAND backup if you use use a CFW or homebrew to dump the NAND? I haven't done any homebrew with my Switch at all.

 

[Lacius]

How do you even get a clean NAND backup if you use use a CFW or homebrew to dump the NAND? I haven't done any homebrew with my Switch at all.

You can make a NAND backup using Hekate, before the Switch operating system ever loads. Making a NAND backup with Hekate should be the very first thing a person does.

In other words, if you use Hekate to make a NAND backup, you are making the NAND backup before using CFW and/or homebrew.