Hacking WiiFlow - an open source GUI USB-Loader

[Spidy1000]

wow what a douchebag

make that "what an asshole"

 

[Gaiaknight]

Get his ass thats just messed up.

 

[pepxl]

lolz best thing is he's submitting bugs so that the real devs fix them to then update his "HackWiiFlow"

 

[xabby666]

Sorry, i've deleted the thread. But i've specified in the thread on hackwii that this is a mod of the official team, with little differences. In an initial release the difference was the implementation of hermes v5, and i gave the sources to r-win in Feb 16 2010. Remember this my small contribution if you want.

Now, excuse me, i've make a mistake to modify credits, will not happen again, and if you want to see sources i give you this evening.

Now, i've understand that the language differences but i admit here and an Italian site in more posts that hackwiiflow is the official wiiflow little mod, and now is dead. Sorry for this incident. If you want to see the source, i send you this evening.

Anyway I deleted the thread and did not restore. Do not worry, your sources will no longer use the excuse to release anything and still have all my respect.

Ps. Developed by myself is referred to the mods applied, in a first moments was the hermes v5 ehcmodule when wiiflow don't supports this. In every case my questions was to contribute, and in difference cases my post give some kind of code to resolve little questions or problems.

 

[Kovani]

Don't get me wrong, you knew it was a really bad thing to do even if you say you did a mistake. I'm sorry, but no one will ever trust you anymore. You just give yourself a bad name.

I'm done with you.

 

[Damian666]

fuckface...

 

[gero]

Hello everyone,

I know that I am not entitled to defend anyone, but please let me just say a few things.

Thanks to xabby many ppl (and I am one of them) have had the chance to discover wiiflow and understand the value of this loader (before I was sceptical about it).
On hackwii there are many newbies with very poor knowledge of the basic features of the loader and to have someone always there to help explain what and how to do things have been of great help. Besides this I think that the intention of Xabby was to give something more to all the users of wiiflow and especially for those who gather around hackwii flow forum. Create a mod version of the loader with some extra features.

This has never meant to steal intellectual properties and the work of others.
He has made a mistake (and we all do sometimes), but he is the first to say that.
Think of him as someone who has always been in between us and you making much easier for us to make hack/wiiflow our main usb loader.

I do not know what will happen after this, but in my opinion to give a second chance is never a mistake.

cheers to all

 

[pepxl]

Hello everyone,

I know that I am not entitled to defend anyone, but please let me just say a few things.

Thanks to xabby many ppl (and I am one of them) have had the chance to discover wiiflow and understand the value of this loader (before I was sceptical about it).
On hackwii there are many newbies with very poor knowledge of the basic features of the loader and to have someone always there to help explain what and how to do things have been of great help. Besides this I think that the intention of Xabby was to give something more to all the users of wiiflow and especially for those who gather around hackwii flow forum. Create a mod version of the loader with some extra features.

This has never meant to steal intellectual properties and the work of others.
He has made a mistake (and we all do sometimes), but he is the first to say that.
Think of him as someone who has always been in between us and you making much easier for us to make hack/wiiflow our main usb loader.

I do not know what will happen after this, but in my opinion to give a second chance is never a mistake.

cheers to all

still not an excuse to remove credits from the actual loader and claim the project as his own, which to me is not a mistake but deliberate so that you "newbies" as you say would not know the real authors behind the project.

He didnt even word his OP right if he meant to say he just added slight mods to the loader to help Italian users out more, he claimed to have done the whole project, there was no mention of any original authors at all.

Well its up to the devs and xabby to sort it out really, just a side note but i made a Uloader MRC edit for us English speaking folks as the original loader only supported Spanish at the time but you didnt see me removing all the code and comments about the original author of the loader and the source was readily available at a click of a button.

It come down to one word at the end of it all "Respect"

 

[djbubba2002]

wow what a douchebag

make that "what an asshole"

+1 HEHEHHE

 

[gero]

still not an excuse to remove credits from the actual loader and claim the project as his own, which to me is not a mistake but deliberate so that you "newbies" as you say would not know the real authors behind the project.

He didnt even word his OP right if he meant to say he just added slight mods to the loader to help Italian users out more, he claimed to have done the whole project, there was no mention of any original authors at all.

Wait. Everyone on Hackwii forum knew since the beginning that hackwiiflow was just a slight modification to the original wiiflow loader and as consequence not a brand new loader. This means that I knew (as everyone else using hackwiiflow) that the whole project was just the result of the work of r-win and mugotu with some implementations by Xabby.

Of course we all agree that the credits had to remain, but this is something that can be fixed without problems (and perhaps the authors of wiiflow could have just sent Xabby a message saying that and wait for his response before taking any decision).

Xabby has always shown great respect and admiration for all the work behind wiiflow (if you read Italian you would see it for yourself) and I do not want to repeat myself but it is thanks to this that we, on hackwii, are using hack/wiiflow.


cheers to all

 

[timcard30]

It should be fine if you can configure Wiinnertag in the settings!

 

[r-win]

Alright, my 2 cents on the topic of hackwiiflow.

I find it pretty amusing that it goes THIS far. Of course, I'm not happy with the way how hackwiiflow was brought to the public on the hackwii.it forum. The author of hackwiiflow is said to be xabby666, and he altered the credits screen to remove our names. But I think those issues can be resolved. Give credit where credit is due, and you can fix that.

Also, there is nothing wrong with using the source of wiiflow for another project. Actually, Miigotu and I discussed that earlier. You can take the source, and use it. For whatever. A lot of code in wiiflow is from other software, including USB Loader GX, CFG Loader USB, WiiXplorer, etc. etc. etc. It's a pretty long list. We, however, try to give a complete list of credits.

So, as far as I'm concerned (but I always was the friendly one

):
1. Fix the credits (including the applications which donated source code). Also be clear about the theme authors, since your full pack contains themes by wiiflow themers (Spidy1000, Benjay, Jiiwah, etc. etc.). IMO it would be best to leave our credit screen, and add your name to it. Also fix the authors on the hackwii.it site. Finally, continue to help the noobs over there, since they are all users of the great loader which Hibern gave us.
2. Continue with your hacks project, but be clear about the original sources and the patches you've applied.

On another note, I have to admit, that this incident has made us more careful about the source code that we write and change in wiiflow. A lot of code which is included in hackwiiflow is experimental. To prevent errors or bugs, based on unreleased code, we are going to do things the CFG Loader way. That means, that from now on, our code will be committed to a private source control server. When we release a version of wiiflow (not alpha or beta, but full release), we will make the source code of the previous version public. And no, you cannot get access. We do realize that this will prevent people from sending us patches, and that this will also delay new releases of hackwiiflow, but that's they way it's gonna be for now.

@xabby666: it was never our intention that you removed the thread (well, maybe initially

). We just want proper credit for the work we (and others) put in. By removing that, you've choosen to hide (a part of) the real authors. In doing so, you gave us a disadvantage. That's what's bothering us. In my personal opinion, it's nothing you can't fix.

 

[xabby666]

Thanks r-win. I want to be clear. I've removed part of credits for add free hd space in the about menu, it was a mistake. I apologize to everyone, was not my intention to harm anyone.

Thanx for your work, I'm sorry to be the cause of the policy change from the team for the source releases.

 

[terminal_illness]

i still say douchebag...
you got caught, thats the only reason why your apologizing...

you guys are doing a smart thing by making the source private...

keep code thieves at bay.

what was going through your mind when you decided to delete the credits page? or when you took credit for others work? your main audience was noob italians who have no idea where a program like this comes from. so you figured you would take the credit and noone would be the wiser?

douchebagery

 

[raulpica]

Keep it civil, guys. You're not helping, with those comments.

BTW, I really appreciate r-win's great attitude in this matter.
Keep up with the good work, guys

 

[r-win]

It should be fine if you can configure Wiinnertag in the settings!

We don't have a keyboard in wiiflow, so we can't do that.

 

[terminal_illness]

im italian aswell raulpica... i never said they were ALL noobs.

well 3/4 italian that is

 

[schroder08]

It should be fine if you can configure Wiinnertag in the settings!

We don't have a keyboard in wiiflow, so we can't do that.

I remember something about having a gamer id file that would be seperate from the wiiflow.ini, is that in the works / possible? That way we could type in the tag there and when there's a new update that needs to reset the ini the tag won't be lost.

 

[r-win]

It should be fine if you can configure Wiinnertag in the settings!

We don't have a keyboard in wiiflow, so we can't do that.

I remember something about having a gamer id file that would be seperate from the wiiflow.ini, is that in the works / possible? That way we could type in the tag there and when there's a new update that needs to reset the ini the tag won't be lost.

It is our goal to never change wiiflow.ini again, so you would never have to type it in again.

 

[mugotu]

Anyways, anyone seen any bugs that NEED fixed in r263?