Gaming Wii VS. Xbox 360

raulpica said:
Xta Large said:
raulpica said:
Graphics are TOTALLY useless if the game is boring
Why does everyone say that? I mean, yeah, it's true, but then at least you have a boring game that's pretty to look at. Most of the games on the Wii library are boring AND have awful visuals.

I'm not accusing you specifically of saying this, but honestly, I've had enough of the 'graphics versus gameplay' argument, because that got old a year ago when it became evident that the 360 and PS3 would best the Wii in both.

And don't get me wrong - I love the shit out of my Wii. It had so much potential... it's just plain not a competitor now, though. It's got some great AAA titles, but not as many as the other two systems have. It's online play is a joke, and while it does embrace local multiplayer (a forgotten art on the other two systems), honestly, how many local multiplayer games are there on the Wii that are worth playing?

With that said, 360 > Wii.
Because I've played games like Mirror's Edge and found it TOTALLY boring. Yeah, it's nice and it's eyecandy, but sincerely, i prefer playing old DOS CGA-graphics games than that
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I could list at least other 20 360 titles which I started to play just to be left there, unfinished. A pleasant surprise was Dead Rising, THAT was an enjoyable game (one of the few which I've actually completed on 360)
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Yeah, the Wii doesn't have as much "AAA" titles as the 360 has, but every single of those few games the Wii had to offer were much better than three 360 games.

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Dead Rising was a pretty damn awesome game.

So was Super Mario Galaxy.

Super Mario Galaxy, better than 3 AAA 360 titles, though? No. Well, depends. I fucking LOVE Galaxy, mostly because of it's soundtrack (gameplay wise, it's one of those games that you beat all the way through, and then play again five years later when it FINALLY feels fresh again). But does it match up to Fallout 3, Oblivion, and Gears of War 2 combined? Methinks not.

Hell, I have yet to play anything this generation that matches up to Fallout 3 alone. But that's just me. And about 75% of the people who have played this marvelous gift from the gaming gods.

Anywhos, yeah, Galaxy was awesome, as were most of the Wii's other AAA titles, but for the most part they don't have much to put them ahead of the awesome AAA 360 titles, which are more often than not packed with way more features, gameplay modes, etc. Not to mention there are more of them.
 
First off I owned both the 360 and the Wii and recently put my Wii up for sale (as can be seen in the trading section)

Now about the Wii, No More Heros was a freaking great game, I'm a lover of gun games and Resident Evil:UC, House Of The Dead, & Ghost Squad were all great as well. The Wii also had some games that entertained me like Zach And Wiki, Mario Smash Bros, & Mario Galaxy. These games were good but by no means fantastic games must haves. Mario Galaxy and many other Wii titles I feel are feeling a little too forced to use the Wiimote motion and thus makes the games a little less fun and a little more annoying. This is the first time I have ever NOT finished a Zelda
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Don't get me started on all the Wii/DS games like Trauma Center, Cooking Mama, and more. If you could use the same save file this would actually be pretty cool...work on beating the same game on the big screen or on the go. But no...your playing the exact same game over and over.

What about WiiWare and VC games?? Well first off the whole storage issues sucks but pretend I didn't have a 360...and now I am like "ooooh Super Mario RPG" but right about this time I broke down and bought another 360 after my old one broke. My original 360 was a launch system and the games didn't move me Oblivion, DOA4, and Tomb Raider...all Meh. But were are talking about as of 3 months ago when I broke down and got a new one. I started downloading trials of games like Doom but then I realized something...why play old outdated games I have beaten when I can be playing new games? Dead Rising = Zombie greatness, Pure = ATV greatness, Burnout Revenge and NFS: Most Wanted I played on the Gamecube but I like them some much I had to play em on widescreen high def TV. Banjo Kazoo: Nuts N Bolts = IMO platformer greatness that really makes you think, Gears Of War, Fight Night, Fable, Bioshock, Viva Pinata = all great. The only game so far that was meh was Star Wars: The Force Unleashed but I have to say that is due to the over hype and the fact that I visited the same levels two times to make the game feel longer.

But even though I said I want to play new games...Xbox's achievement system has me playing older games. I had a blast trying to get a power gem 25 blocks in size. Oh and online scoring, If I wasn't so busy playing new games I'd even conceder hammering it down on Pac-man to have the top online score nation wide. Sure its an old ass game but now it has a new twist...online scoring. Of course I could also play the new and great Pac-man Championship edition, Bionic Commando got a face lift two, and Street Fighter as well.

Sure each game has its pros and cons and in the end only your opinion matters. Hell I loved No More Heroes and Excite Truck to the point they'd both get an A rating from me but a lot of others out there hated the games. Same goes for Dead Rising...my buddy loves the 360 but for the sole reason of COD4/5 and hates the games I enjoy. So yea that about sums it up. I got distracted and updated my gamer tag which interrupted my thought process but I think by now you've got the point.
 
Wii made me buy a 360.

I had my wii since PAL launch, bought pretty much all the must have titles, i.e zelda, etc. Gaps formed in the release schedule, grew bored, another couple of games came out bought those, cleared them quickly due to nintendos new found love for simplistic gameplay, got bored, got a 360, started building my library during the long dull points of wii releases, bought the odd wii game now and then skipped a few due to lack of interest/enthusiasm for the system.

Lack of quality games or games with any depth at all made me lose interest. I've owned my 360 less time than i've owned a wii and I must have 3x the games.

Its only in the last couple of months I grew sympathy for it and HBC'd it even then it lasted a week. Last week I backup loaded it and now i've caught up on the 2-3 games I was missing i'm losing interest again. My 360 still goes strong.

IMO though, homebrew/piracy shouldn't count towards being a selling point of a console, its a perk, not a feature. Features are stuff like embedded online service or motion controls, not hack our console and you can make it your personal gimp.

The two consoles are basically the polar opposites of each other. The 360 gets your more "mature" games where as the wii gets your more "family" games. I'm not just referring to graphics or blood or gore etc here. I don't believe in the "OMG KIDDY GRAFIX" it just doesn't phase me, I own both viva pinatas on my 360, its something fresh which you don't tend to get these days, its more about gameplay.

Its a matter of preference. Theres bound to be people who love both but IMO lots of people are going to fall into one side or another and the reasons why they hate the other one is going to be the exact same of why others love it.

Stuff like OMG 360 HAS RROD, WII IS JUST WAGGLAN are just idiot reasons, if that's the best people can come up with they need to remove their head from their backside, go away for a bit and mature up.
 
i dont have xbox 360 but it shits on wii. imo it has moar games i rather play, and none of that motion control shit will ruin any games

i mean xbox 360 has: halo, gears ox war, orange box, and that one alien game
 
I own both. They both provide me with different activities. BUT, if it came down to it, I'd get rid of the 360. None of the other consoles I own provide me with the same experience as the wii. I'd have just as much fun playing through all the old games on my original XBOX for FPS which is what I mainly play on the 360. Sure, HD gameplay is pretty to look at, but IMHO opinion, it doesn't really matter that much for me. I actually buy games for the 360 since I didn't want to bother with risking getting banned, and I have a chipped wii so I "own" all the good games (and a lot of the games people consider to be borderline crap). I'm not a wii fanboy by any measure. It just gives me the arcade feeling when I fire it up and play together with my wife unlike when I would have her playing co-op or deathmatch on Halo. When I play on the wii, there is usually laughter and good feelings involved for both me and my wife. When I game on the 360, I'm usually cursing if it's a good game and my wife doesn't want want to play with me at all.
 
I Would Say 360 is better, if Wii hadn't screwed up with the online it wouldn't be though.
 
I prefer the wii.
I already have a PC
which is already better than the 360. most of its best selling games has a better PC version
 
No-one listens to anyone, its personally preference, if your a hardcore gamer, who is into real graphics then yeah get a 360, better still get a ps3, even better a super PC
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Then if your just into average gameplay with plenty of fun for all ages, go for the wii, 360/ps3 are too serious & advanced for the average player...
 
Xta Large said:
raulpica said:
Xta Large said:
raulpica said:
Graphics are TOTALLY useless if the game is boring
Why does everyone say that? I mean, yeah, it's true, but then at least you have a boring game that's pretty to look at. Most of the games on the Wii library are boring AND have awful visuals.

I'm not accusing you specifically of saying this, but honestly, I've had enough of the 'graphics versus gameplay' argument, because that got old a year ago when it became evident that the 360 and PS3 would best the Wii in both.

And don't get me wrong - I love the shit out of my Wii. It had so much potential... it's just plain not a competitor now, though. It's got some great AAA titles, but not as many as the other two systems have. It's online play is a joke, and while it does embrace local multiplayer (a forgotten art on the other two systems), honestly, how many local multiplayer games are there on the Wii that are worth playing?

With that said, 360 > Wii.

Because I've played games like Mirror's Edge and found it TOTALLY boring. Yeah, it's nice and it's eyecandy, but sincerely, i prefer playing old DOS CGA-graphics games than that
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I could list at least other 20 360 titles which I started to play just to be left there, unfinished. A pleasant surprise was Dead Rising, THAT was an enjoyable game (one of the few which I've actually completed on 360)
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Yeah, the Wii doesn't have as much "AAA" titles as the 360 has, but every single of those few games the Wii had to offer were much better than three 360 games.

This is all
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Dead Rising was a pretty damn awesome game.

So was Super Mario Galaxy.

Super Mario Galaxy, better than 3 AAA 360 titles, though? No. Well, depends. I fucking LOVE Galaxy, mostly because of it's soundtrack (gameplay wise, it's one of those games that you beat all the way through, and then play again five years later when it FINALLY feels fresh again). But does it match up to Fallout 3, Oblivion, and Gears of War 2 combined? Methinks not.

Hell, I have yet to play anything this generation that matches up to Fallout 3 alone. But that's just me. And about 75% of the people who have played this marvelous gift from the gaming gods.

Anywhos, yeah, Galaxy was awesome, as were most of the Wii's other AAA titles, but for the most part they don't have much to put them ahead of the awesome AAA 360 titles, which are more often than not packed with way more features, gameplay modes, etc. Not to mention there are more of them.
I've found GoW to be utterly boring after a while, and probably GoW2 is no better. Yeah, it's a great game... But I can't help finding myself feel like doing the same things over and over after a while (it's a FPS, after all)...

And Fallout3... WTF. I loved Fallout 1 & 2 on my PC... Fallout3 seems more a FPS (oh, another?) than a (computer) RPG to me.

Oh well
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QUOTE(djdynamite123 @ Dec 16 2008, 07:37 PM)
No-one listens to anyone, its personally preference, if your a hardcore gamer, who is into real graphics then yeah get a 360, better still get a ps3, even better a super PC
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Then if your just into average gameplay with plenty of fun for all ages, go for the wii, 360/ps3 are too serious & advanced for the average player...
Again with this Hardcore Gamer (360/PS3) vs Average Gamer (WII) talk?

The Wii is a great console. And whetever you play games on it doesn't make you "average" or "hardcore".
Sure, the Wii is a bit lacking in the netplay section, but I don't play online with my 360 either, so I'm fine with that, personally.
And stunning graphics are NOT hardcore. I'm a gamier since something like 20 years, and I couldn't care LESS about graphics.

I surely enjoy fine visuals, but certainly they aren't everything nor they make the game more "hardcore" than other less-good looking games
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Even the PC is full of "non-hardcore" games like Bejeweled and others, but that certainly doesn't make the PC a platform for the "average" gamer.
 
I've had the wii for 2 years now, and just bought a 360 last month.

The 360 is a bit noisy, but installing a couple of games to the hard drive sorted most of that.

Just finished COD:WaW and have to say it's absolutely fantastic on the 360, and rubbish on the wii, the wii controls are just frustrating. The graphics are amazing and I know it shouldn't matter but now i've got an HDTV you can really tell the difference and you don't want to go back. Xbox live is also fantastic as well. Plus once i've sorted out my wireless adaptor i'll be able to use it as a media centre extender which is great as well seeing as i've got an HTPC.

The wii has some great games, but just like the N64 and GC, once the initial wave of 1st party titles is out (mario, mario kart, smash brothers) we'll have to wait til the next nintendo console to play any of them again. My wii is modded, I had to have it done because it wouldn't read legit games (yet it reads backups fine?). Was faulty from brand new but Nintendo wouldn't replace it, sent it in for repair and i'm still not convinced that they actually fixed anything as it still has problems with original disks. Compare that with microsoft who swapped my faulty pad straight out without picking the other up - i think that's Microsoft 1 - 0 Nintendo on the reliability stakes on that one.

There are far too many wii games that have 'motion' controls tacked on for the sake of it. Beyond Wii Sports I can't think of any games that relied upon the wii controls that were any better for using them. Maybe i'm not too arsed about the wii games because i can get them as backups but there is a real lack of quality titles, far too many 6/10.

Now a 360 can be had for less than €200 I can't see why you wouldn't get one. Might as well have both consoles.

my take on the whole 'hardcore gamer' crap is that if you were a hardcore gamer you'd probably own more than one system anyway. My PC can't cope with many new games, couldn't see the point in upgrading it when a 360 is so cheap, and because everyone's using pads rather than keyboard+mouse, it makes it all more interesting and fairer.
 
I'm sick of hearing arguments that downplay the importance of graphics. They aren't as important as gameplay, but fuck if they don't help make the game what it is.

I remember waaay back when gamers appreciated evolution...

Oh, and, uh, a LOT of Megaman 9's appeal was in its visuals and sound design. A lot of people, myself included, bought it not just for the old school gameplay, but to see what a game like Megaman would sound and look like today with current games influencing the old-school design.
 
I never had too much complaint with my Wii graphics, I mean capcom really knows how to work the system with their Resident Evil titles and with Pikmin 3 coming out and a remake of the first Pikmin I have to say I will MISS my Wii but again with so many games on the 360 coming out and so many in my back catalog I just don't see me making time for the Wii and it will just end up depreciating.

As for the whole PC thing...I stopped being a hardcore PC gamer when Unreal Tournament 2004 kept giving me errors with the anti cheating thing when trying to get into clan battles. We had custom skins, custom maps, the anti cheat system was just bugged in the very end. And then drivers...and crashes. And then again I'd much prefer a game like Dead Rising on the 360. Honestly I would have preferred the PC version of Bioshock but used that game to get me used to FPS on the 360.

In the end in between the whole 360vsPC thing, it is easier to make backups on the 360, (PC requires cracks and patches), it is easier to sit down and boot up and play on the 360, (I don't need to worry about drivers), and then there is the achievement system which I am totally loving.
 
I'm not sure some of you realize what you're writing. You're putting the 360 over your Wii and talking about your 360 breaking and having to buy ANOTHER one. Are you kidding me? If i spend that kind of money on a system and it breaks there is no way I'd buy another one no matter how "awesome" the games are.

How can you be so supportive of a system that has a widespread problem with breaking? On top of that the 360 consumes the most energy of the current modern consoles which means you're paying a much higher energy bill.

Then there's the controller and gameplay. The Wii takes that trophy hands down. Most notably in Madden, Tiger woods or Pangya. Imagine that you actually need to stretch out before playing some wii titles because you're actually getting off the couch and exerting yourself.

The 360 wins with graphics and online play and for those titles like Fallout and Gears which are near masterpieces and deserve all the love they get. But to me that's not good enough when there's a very real possibility of rrod (which just happend to a friend of mine) and the sadness he felt just cannot be justified. MS is greedy and doesn't care about their customers.

Wii shows it's people much more love imo by offering a funner console that my kids can play, most all of the titles are blood free, the console doesn't break as often if at all, online play is FREE and the energy footprint is miniscule. All of which save me money which I appreciate much more than a few extra pixles on my tv since I got a PC for extra pixels. Oh not to mention that you can run homebrew on a wii.

That said I eventually will get a 360 but the Wii was a clear first choice for my household.
 
I think the majority of the posts here are fanboyish. Lol, don't get me wrong, I'm a Nintendo fanboy too but I know when to admit they've been beaten. I've had my Wii since the morning it came out (still remember camping out for it) and I've played all the titles that could be considered good and above for it and beaten them. Granted, the Wii has some great games but nearly all of them lose their appeal unless they're focused on local multiplayer, eg: Brawl, Mario Kart, Boom Blox, etc. The other 80% games that come out for it are lousy as ports from devs. I have a copy of every Wii game that's come up to this date and would discard about 85% of those copies. However, on the 360, despite its lack of local multiplayer unless doing system link, I find it more entertaining than my Wii. Besides updating the homebrew apps on my Wii and using it for Opera when my laptop is in use, my Wii gets no use at all. The 360 has great games continuously being released for it and it has Live and achievements. Don't give me any bull about paying for an online service, it's very much worth it. My friends and I throw tons of parties and the 360 gets the most playtime. We all have the wii360 combo. We usually start off with an hour of Brawl and maybe Mario Kart and from there its all 360. The Wii is more family oriented than the Wii, but in this day and age when you just want to play alone or maybe with friends the 360 is the best choice. To me, the Wii lost its appeal quite a while ago.
 
graphics and power don't mean shit to true gamers all they care about is gameplay. and the wii provides gameplay options thats not possible on the other consoles.
 
Haven't we done this thread already...countless times?

But what the hell, I'll play...

Putting graphics and all that aside, the 360 bends Wii over and rapes it in terms of quality games.

In terms of hardware reliability, however, the 360 is Wii's prison bitch.

That clear enough for ya'?
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What gameplay options has the Wii provided as of late? Titlting the control sideways? Waggling the damn thing? Haha, the 360 is the Wii's pimp.
 
BillandAlisha said:
yes Yes I know Xbox graphics can be eye droping amazing...but my wife loves the interactive of the Wii...reason why I am comparing is because the house has an xbox 360 and I have an Wii, I would like not to disappoint the xbox 360 fans.

Are there any more decent Interactive Wii games out there?

We have Wii sports,... which is good.
Sonic unleashed........ play is ok, the story is almost as bad/cheesy as any Saturday night Sci-fi movies...
Wii play................... sucks monkey balls.
Quantum of Solace...the game is ok, the controllers are a bit awkward
Guitar hero 3...........awesome, but getting tired of playing it.
Endless ocean..........good for a kid when they had a very stressful day
Zelda.................... no zelda game has let me down yet.

About to try

House of the dead 2 and 3
Mario galaxy
Mario sonic Olympics
Mario Party 8
No More heros
Wareland shake it

...will I be disappointed?

What games do you prefer for interactivity for all ages, and for adults.
This topic is a joke right? 360 owns
 

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