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Hi there and thank you for your help regarding a previous issue with loading Wii roms.

I reckon there are a few Wii roms using certain IOS requiring a different cIOS to be installed or different setting to be able to run properly.

I am not sure where to find information on which IOS:es are regarded and if there is a list of known games that might use this kind of IOS:es.

ANyway, tried running a game (Peppa the Pig [RPGPPN]) with apparently IOS 53 according to Wii Backup Manager. When running it starts up and enters a black screen with flashing black and gray lines. Soft Reset or any other button does not work at all, only hard resetting or pulling the plug. The other roms on the USB drive works flawlessly.

Tried running it on my PC with Dolphin and it starts up as it should.

Hence thinking it might be one of these roms that require some proper setting or other CIOS.

Is there any more kind of information you could extract from the rom that could help with making a proper setup?
 
CoolMe said:
Post a syscheck here.
Btw, ios is not the same as cIOS, most Wii games work fine with cIOS 249/250 or 251, you should change the game ios in USBLoaderGX to 249 and test again.
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Turned out it was already set to 249, tried setting to 250, still the same. Flickering lines. Here's the syscheck btw.

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: PAL
System Menu 4.3E (v514)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 12.18.2008
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x21
Console ID: 153618413
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: Sweden (107)
Boot2 v4
Found 92 titles.
Found 48 IOS on this console. 7 of them are stubs.

IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11[60] (rev 65535, Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20[60] (rev 65535, Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30[60] (rev 65535, Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40[60] (rev 65535, Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50[60] (rev 65535, Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52[60] (rev 65535, Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 65535, Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70[60] (rev 65535, Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS80[60] (rev 65535, Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS222 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS223 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS249[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS251[38] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10
Report generated on 01/16/2023.
 
tentam said:
Hi there and thank you for your help regarding a previous issue with loading Wii roms.

I reckon there are a few Wii roms using certain IOS requiring a different cIOS to be installed or different setting to be able to run properly.

I am not sure where to find information on which IOS:es are regarded and if there is a list of known games that might use this kind of IOS:es.

ANyway, tried running a game (Peppa the Pig [RPGPPN]) with apparently IOS 53 according to Wii Backup Manager. When running it starts up and enters a black screen with flashing black and gray lines. Soft Reset or any other button does not work at all, only hard resetting or pulling the plug. The other roms on the USB drive works flawlessly.

Tried running it on my PC with Dolphin and it starts up as it should.

Hence thinking it might be one of these roms that require some proper setting or other CIOS.

Is there any more kind of information you could extract from the rom that could help with making a proper setup?
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Have you changed the video mode settings? For best compatibility, video mode should be set to disc default and VIDTV patch turned off. Check it in the global and per game settings. Some games will just not work if the video settings are not what they expect. For US peeps it's best to stick to USA releases, since a lot of USA TVs don't support PAL but most PAL TVs support NTSC so disc default should work fine for you even with USA releases. Still, I prefer to stick to PAL region games on a PAL console and TV, to ensure there won't be any compatibility issues.
 
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Already had the latest release installed but thank you for suggesting it anyway.

I will try to look into the video settings. It should be a PAL game and both the console and TV is AFAIK PAL. I have been running a few Japanese games without any issues though.
 
tentam said:
Turned out it was already set to 249, tried setting to 250, still the same. Flickering lines. Here's the syscheck btw.

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: PAL
System Menu 4.3E (v514)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 12.18.2008
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x21
Console ID: 153618413
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: Sweden (107)
Boot2 v4
Found 92 titles.
Found 48 IOS on this console. 7 of them are stubs.

IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11[60] (rev 65535, Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20[60] (rev 65535, Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30[60] (rev 65535, Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40[60] (rev 65535, Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50[60] (rev 65535, Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52[60] (rev 65535, Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 65535, Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70[60] (rev 65535, Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS80[60] (rev 65535, Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS222 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS223 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS249[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS251[38] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10
Report generated on 01/16/2023.
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Syscheck looks correct. make sure to verify the hash of the wbfs file (game) in WiiBackupManager, to make sure it's not corrupt.
 
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It looks like a shovelware game that's been problematic for over a decade. Although some people did get it working with the Hermes cIOS.

I'll look into this more later today.
 
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Alright, the video settings were already set to Disc default (Video Mode) and Off for VIDTV Patch.

Hash check was fine, no corruption.

It says partition UG compared to the other games with only partition G, that's the only difference I can find


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blackb0x said:
It looks like a shovelware game that's been problematic for over a decade. Although some people did get it working with the Hermes cIOS.

I'll look into this more later today.
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A shovelgame?
 
"The metaphor implies that the creators showed little care for the quality of the original software, as if the new compilation or version had been created by indiscriminately adding titles "by the shovel" in the same way someone would shovel bulk material into a pile. "

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shovelware

Edit; partition UG means it has both game and updates partitions in the game image
 
CoolMe said:
Shovelware game, meaning it's probably not well optimized for the Wii (even on disc), and any odd behavior could throw off usbloadergx and impact the game's performance..
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Oh, okay, that makes sense in case it does not work. I wonder how it sold on the shelves back then.
I guess I wont expect the game to run at all since all settings are optimized.

Should I put it like "case closed" perhaps?
 
tentam said:
Oh, okay, that makes sense in case it does not work. I wonder how it sold on the shelves back then.
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Most don't perform well, though it doesn't mean that they don't work at all..
tentam said:
Should I put it like "case closed" perhaps?
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You might want to try with another game loader like WiiFlow Lite, as it could be an issue with USBLoaderGX. Try with Wiiflow Lite to know for sure.
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Also, i somehow missed this, but it could also be the usb flash drive (if you're using one), probably not if you're using a fat32 formatted external hdd. Just something to keep in mind.
 
tentam said:
I guess I wont expect the game to run at all since all settings are optimized.
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Restore the loader to it's default settings and then before you start the game go into it's settings and turn off the 480p patch. That should get the game booting.

In future updates you won't need to do this.
 
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