why isnt this a thing

Discussion in 'Wii U - Hacking & Backup Loaders' started by GodlikeStatus, Nov 13, 2016.

  1. GodlikeStatus
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    a multi tool to do rednand install sig contenthax and cold boot would save the noobs hours no???
     
  2. xtheman

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    I think noobs should learn how to do it themselves instead of it being automatic.
    No one needs to make a tool for you since you can't figure it out.
     
  3. sj33

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    Wait, we have cold boot now?
     
  4. GodlikeStatus
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    listen i have no plans on pirating games i bought all the best games for the wiiu when i purchased it
    i think you answer is pretty stupid because this is a community and it shows your maturity
     
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    If everybody thought like that, we wouldn't have things like the Plailect guide for A9LH, serving the exact purpose on the 3DS.
    https://plailect.github.io/

    Anyway, I've lost track myself of all the various hacks and tools now available on the Wii U due to them being released in a haphazard, scattergun fashion in many different threads.
     
  6. GodlikeStatus
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    well wouldnt one tool for all not solve this ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
     
  7. deinonychus71

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    The problem is the more you try to give, the more they ask/expect from you. It turns a hobby into something very stressful, you spend all your time on details and make no further progress.
    And the worst is, people don't even realize you do all that on your own free time.

    Helping people yes, but if someone calls me stupid as soon as they don't get what they want when they want, I'm not gonna bother.
     
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    Well the thing is, it's not about the noobs.
    Yes, it is a community, however, the people working hard in this scene don't really need to make a tool that will make it easy for the noobs.
    iAqua already made a guide for getting RedNAND w/ Sigpatches.
    Compiling iosuhax takes less than 10 minutes. Making the RedNAND itself is a long process that cannot be reduced. Mine took about 2 hours for a 32GB Wii U.
    I haven't figured out haxchi yet but I'm doing what I can.

    You cannot really ask for anything more. Making it any more simple doesn't really matter if it's a tool. It still requires some compiling that you cannot work around.
     
  9. ih8ih8sn0w

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    (sorry for being off topic) Do you know how many noobs have no clue what they are doing on the 3ds because of that guide? I have had to tell people how to update a payload, how to install a cia, how to use github all because of this guide. It is good, but it doesn't educate people. They should learn to not be spoon fed everything.

    (on-topicsh) OP, have you ever read any warning on any tool that has been released for the Wii U in the past 3 months? THEY ALL SAY THAT YOU SHOULD NOT USE IT IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. MAKING IT AUTOMATED IS LITERALLY GOING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION AND ALLOWING PEOPLE WHO KNOW JACK SHIT ABOUT HOW THE CONSOLE WORKS TO DO SOMETHING THAT WILL BRICK IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG. </rant>
     
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    They all say that
    Making it automatic... isn't automatic, it takes time and often not that simple.
    And there's that message again so that people don't blame the devs if something goes wrong.

    A community is a place where everyone participate, not 95% waits for the work of 5%.
     
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    Guides like a9lh is good because it forces the user to learn.
    A person will learn nothing it is done for them.
     
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  12. tivu100

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    OP... :wacko:

    As other has said: at this stage of the scene, there is no way for automatic homebrew setting up tool. The community is for people who want homebrew for their gaming console. It may get easier when the Wii U homebrew scene develops, but no way it's work-free anytime soon, if ever at all.

    I called myself noob, and even stupid for not being able to learn to program myself, but I am not lazy enough to require spoon-feeding. I asked questions if I need help and I got to know many people on here whom are willing to spend their free time to help. I appreciate the work of the developers, and the helpers.

    Off topic, seeing that even IOSUHAX at this stage (end user enabled) can't satisfy some people, the delay of releasing IOSUHAX back in the day should be deemed as correct action with hindsight. Nintendo seems to drop interest in securing the Wii U for months as for moving toward SWITCH and we have end-user enabled tools now (REDNAND, sigpatch...)..., which allows more people to experience IOSUHAX ( if they are willing to ask for help) with end-user enabled tools. Had the IOSUHAX been released so soon before without end user enabled tools, likely we have tonnes of thread asking a way to downgrade now. Not to mention threads blaming the developers were lazy with IOSHAX released without any end user tool. :shit: to the people who bad mouthed the developers back then saying stuffs like IOSUHAX is fake, Hykem, Smealum and the like is attention whore and don't contribute to the scene...
     
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  13. ih8ih8sn0w

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    They still blame the devs, they still leech on the work of the devs without appreciating the time and effort put into development, and they will still continue to not aid in the community. There are those who do help the community even if they cannot program, then there are those who take everything for granted. An automated process for this is not something that should exist soon for good reasons.

    The guide doesn't force people to learn though, it just sends them to other places to find out how to actually do anything with their own console which they just did. It doesn't explain what they are actually doing, and it doesn't tell them things they need to know. It is getting better at that, but noobs finish the guide and cannot tell me what arm9loaderhax.bin is for, they cannot tell me what the config options in luma are for, and they cannot tell me where a payload goes. The guide is a tool to get people to do something which they themselves are not ready to comprehend in a hacking scene.
     
  14. sj33

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    The problem is that the information is scattered around. There are plenty of threads regarding RedNAND, *hax, coldboot expermentations, region free etc., but it's not really clear how these are all linked, what process or order these need to be installed in for everything to work without risking a brick. I consider myself relatively experienced with console modding, but I'm still overwhelmed by all the unsorted information.

    Still, this thread has encouraged me to actually try RedNAND today.
     
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    I've been looking at the Wii U scene for about a week now, and I usually pick things up quickly. It is disgusting how unorganized and anti-new person friendly it is right now. Information is outdated as fuck in some places, there is a lot of basically useless information floating around, and guides were somehow hard to actually understand due to them not being maintained (trying to get my phone to host a homebrew server failed, and I ended up using a random app which could only boot loadiine with a bad boot chance). The 3ds scene is disgusting as well, but at least it is organized. I have been able to barely do anything with my Wii U because nothing is clearly defined, and the stickied threads aren't well maintained.
     
  16. jbuck1975

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    is there a place to learn for the WII U? i've been trying to learn as much as I can, but sometimes people get rude and treat people like noobs, making the "students" not even want to go and learn the stuff. They would rather link you into a direction on what to do instead of helping you do it.
     
  17. lembi2001

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    The problem with the stickies is that things are moving so fast it will be very difficult for the stickies to be updated quickly enough to make them relevant.

    Take the USB Loading guide by @BurningDesire as an example. The discoveries made during the initial reveal of the method meant that the first post of the thread was being edited almost hourly.
     
  18. tivu100

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    There is an organized thread on that site. There is one here that got buried when new info being circled.

    Perhaps I was used to the 3DS scene which is extremely disorganized with all new info going around regularly at its peak of busiest time (Nintendo released update more often, different model requires different approach, new development...) I found no problem with Wii U section.

    Also cross check that other site often, as sometimes people and some members here find that site is more convenient to post guide, tutorial due to no restriction on copyrighted stuffs.
     
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