Why does everybody speed?

[ShadowSoldier]

Everybody knows that every state and every country has the exact same laws regarding speeding, right?

Oh wait, no, they don't, and there's links on the first page explaining the differences.

Jesus Christ dude back off, just accept that not everywhere in the world is the same as where you live.

This isn't about where I live. This is about b******t claims from people saying that there are certain situations where you can be fined for NOT speeding. If you're going to make radical claims, you better damned well be prepared to back it up with some citations, or your own evidence.

I have logic on my side. Without evidence or links of credible stories where people have been fined for holding up the flow of traffic by NOT going over the speed limit, these stories have about as much credibility as the latest 3DS Hack fill in my survey video.

Well get used to it, here you can get fined. If you're not going with the flow, even if the flow is speeding, you're considered being a hazard and can get fined.

 

[Sicklyboy]

I typically go over the speed limit to the point of keeping with or somewhat exceeding the flow of traffic.

A poor justification, but a fairly logical one nonetheless - If you're in a 50, but the high majority of traffic around you is moving at 60-65, the likelihood of you being singled out by moving at the same speed is low. That's not to say it's impossible or even uncommon.

Depending on the area I'll go anywhere between 10 to 25 over the limit. The main highway near me is a 50, I'll go up to 70 on it if I am in a major hurry, but 60-65 is the typical flow. Something like the turnpike though, the posted speed is 65 in most areas (by me at least) and I'll drive up to 90-95 on it, though I usually stay near 80.

On any of those, I am almost always keeping with the flow of traffic.

 

[ShadowNeko003]

I usually go 0-5 miles over the limit. But my max speed is 80. I think it's better to go with the flow, cause if you're the going slow, it might make people cut you and that could cause accidents.

 

[Pleng]

Well get used to it, here you can get fined. If you're not going with the flow, even if the flow is speeding, you're considered being a hazard and can get fined.

Yea. And here you can get fined for not wearing sunglasses on a hot day.


Get used to it.

 

[Sicklyboy]

Well get used to it, here you can get fined. If you're not going with the flow, even if the flow is speeding, you're considered being a hazard and can get fined.

Yea. And here you can get fined for not wearing sunglasses on a hot day.


Get used to it.

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/traffic-transport/128-abu-dhabi-motorists-fined-for-driving-below-speed-limit-1.1028121

128 examples in one article.

It can happen.

 

[Pleng]

http://gulfnews.com/...limit-1.1028121

128 examples in one article.

It can happen.

Abu Dhabi olice in Abu Dhabi issued 128 tickets to motorists last year for driving below the minimum speed limit.

For a start it's in Abu Dhabi. And for secondly it's for driving below the minimum speed limit, not driving below the maximum speed limit...

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Well get used to it, here you can get fined. If you're not going with the flow, even if the flow is speeding, you're considered being a hazard and can get fined.

Yea. And here you can get fined for not wearing sunglasses on a hot day.


Get used to it.

I will get used to it no problem, wanna know why? Because your place is entirely different from here with different sets of rules. You treat everything as if the world runs off of global rules.

 

[Pleng]

Yea. And here you can get fined for not wearing sunglasses on a hot day.


Get used to it.

I will get used to it no problem, wanna know why? Because your place is entirely different from here with different sets of rules. You treat everything as if the world runs off of global rules.

So you just believe anything some random guy tells you on the internet? Awesome; check your PM I have a bas arse money making scheme I'd like to let you in on.

I'm well aware that the world is not one set of global rules, thank you very much. Where I'm currently living the police are well known for corruption. And hell it exists. It's rife. And you know what? Because it's well known, people can make up some unbelievable stories and have them just accepted.

At the end of the day, law enforcement seems to globally attract a huge amount of exaggerated, mis-quoted (as in Plasma Dragon's example) or down right made-up stories. If I hear something that sound unbelievable then I ask for evidence before accepting it. I accept that there are ridiculous situations in all wakes of life, law enforcement in particular. But you know what? Wherever ridiculous, contradictory laws exists, hundereds of websites exist pointing out the hypocrisies. They won't be difficult to find, either. But it's not my job to do the searching. I'm not the one making outrageous claims.

All you have to do it provide a source. Shouldn't be tricky if it actually happens...

 

[Sicklyboy]

@Pleng - http://www.copblock.org/796/police-ticket-women-for-driving-6-miles-under-the-speed-limit/

A USA based one. We don't have minimum and maximum speed limits here, we just have a single posted limit.

 

[Pleng]

@Pleng - http://www.copblock....he-speed-limit/

We don't have minimum and maximum speed limits here, we just have a single posted limit.

Thank you. That's the kind of link I was after. Though I still doubt its credibility, as it's on what seems to be an anti-police bias site, and the link to the full story has been removed. Also the quote says:

The citation said she violated the statute for minimum speed.

However it does go on to say that the she was doing 34 in a 40. So assuming that 40 is a maximum speed limit, that does seem ridiculous.

Anyway, you've backed it up with a link, which at least gives the claim some credibility.

 

[Gahars]

For a topic about speeding, Pleng seems pretty slow to catch on.

 

[Rydian]

If you're going to make radical claims, you better damned well be prepared to back it up with some citations, or your own evidence.

and there's links on the first page explaining the differences.

Please learn to read.

 

[The Catboy]

Thank you. That's the kind of link I was after. Though I still doubt its credibility, as it's on what seems to be an anti-police bias site, and the link to

What gives you the right to question someone credibility, when you haven't even backed up any of your posts up with a single bit of information?
All you have done was claim to have a greater knowledge than everyone on this thread without a single bit of information to back it up.

 

[mysticwaterfall]

I don't know why people are even still arguing about this since I posted an MSN link pages ago clearly saying you can get a ticket for being too slow in the US. Does enforcement vary? Yes. Does that change that it happens? No.

 

[Pleng]

Thank you. That's the kind of link I was after. Though I still doubt its credibility, as it's on what seems to be an anti-police bias site, and the link to

What gives you the right to question someone credibility, when you haven't even backed up any of your posts up with a single bit of information?
All you have done was claim to have a greater knowledge than everyone on this thread without a single bit of information to back it up.

I have every right to question credibility of absurd claims. Just as you have the right to question anybody who claims they've hacked the 3DS without any evidence.

I haven't claimed to have any knowledge, ergo I have nothing to back up. I'm not the one claiming that you can get fined for not speeding!

I am well aware that you can get fined for going to slow and do not dispute this. But if people are going to claim that you can get fined for NOT going over the speed limit they better be damned well prepared to back that up. All I've had so far is a link proving that somebody once might have got fined for being 6km under the speed limit. 2 years ago. Possibly.

The fact that people in this thread are saying "well it does happen so get used to it", rather than take the two seconds it would take (if it were true and commonplace) to back up these crazy allegations with some citations.

@mysticwaterfall

That's not the point. Nobody's debating that you can get fined for being too slow, as far as I'm aware. I'm debating the fact that you can be fined for being too slow whilst still being above the maximum speed limit.

and there's links on the first page explaining the differences

Please learn to read.

None of those links prove that that you can be fined for being too slow whilst still being above the maximum speed limit

 

[BigBlarg]

I don't know why people are even still arguing about this since I posted an MSN link pages ago clearly saying you can get a ticket for being too slow in the US. Does enforcement vary? Yes. Does that change that it happens? No.

I've seen those kind of tickets. EVERY SINGLE TIME, they were canceled.

 

[Deleted-236924]

and there's links on the first page explaining the differences

Please learn to read.

None of those links prove that that you can be fined for being too slow whilst still being above the maximum speed limit

Wait, that doesn't even make any sense.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

and there's links on the first page explaining the differences

Please learn to read.

None of those links prove that that you can be fined for being too slow whilst still being above the maximum speed limit

Wait, that doesn't even make any sense.

He means if the limit is 80, and you're going 90, and the traffic is going 100.

 

[Pleng]

and there's links on the first page explaining the differences

Please learn to read.

None of those links prove that that you can be fined for being too slow whilst still being above the maximum speed limit

Wait, that doesn't even make any sense.

That's my point...

 

[Ubuntuの刀]

I'm so glad I'm not driving yet. If I were to drive, i'd probably get other people into accidents knowing that I'll abide by the law