Why does everybody speed?

[DinohScene]

I, most of the times turn up my windows / close my sunroof if I'm near crowded areas.

But usually I'll be like fuck it and cruise with loud music past them.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

However, the freeways are completely different. There is no expectation of stopping (unless it's daily heavy traffic and in that case you are an absolute retard if you go fast knowing at some point you will have to travel super slow). If the flow of traffic is 65mph and you are going 50 on the free way, you are an absolute danger. You cause other people to have to slow down or worse move over. When people move over and are going slower than the other lane, you make that lane slow down too. I have witnessed it several times, when trucks go 35 in one lane, they cause a near huge traffic build up just in their area.

There are minimum speed limits on highways over here.

FYI - I consider those who drive at or under the speed limit when the flow of traffic is going significantly faster to be a little selfish and self-centered

And yet, you're asking the law-abiding citizen to break the law for you, a complete stranger, just so you can have an easier time breaking the law.
If that isn't selfish and/or self-centered, then I don't know what it is.

Again, teachers and shit teach you to go with the flow of traffic. So if the flow of the traffic is going faster, and you're still going the speed limit, then technically, you're still breaking the law and could still get a ticket for being a potential hazard on the road for going too slow.

 

[BigBlarg]

Again, teachers and shit teach you to go with the flow of traffic. So if the flow of the traffic is going faster, and you're still going the speed limit, then technically, you're still breaking the law and could still get a ticket for being a potential hazard on the road for going too slow.

I'm quite sure over here they teach us to go with the flow unless it is faster than the speed limit.

Call me a douchebag, I don't care, but yes, I love slowing down an Audi going at 90 km/h in a 70 km/h zone.

 

[BigBlarg]

In most areas a "speed limit" is more a speed suggestion.

A suggestion? Really??

Once again, I don't know for every place but :
even number = speed limit
odds number = suggestion

 

[raulpica]

I remember going well over 15-20mph more back when petrol didn't cost so much. Nowadays I don't do it anymore because I just waste too much speeding

Oh, add to that the fact that I'm not 20 anymore, and the entire fascination with speeding goes away.

I still drive around 40 mph in city though. Slower than that is just... SLOW.

 

[Pleng]

But the fact of the matter is, on the freeway, it is just as illegal to hinder the flow of traffic, as it is to speed, so you have to use discretion. Not everything is so black and white. Especially traffic laws.

Do you have any source for this? Because it makes no sense what so ever. I accept that hindering the flow of traffic is an issue. But I'd love to see a case where somebody was charged for 'hindering the flow of traffic' by sticking to the speed limit. I don't mean by going 20kph UNDER the speed limit, I mean by being AT the speed limit or a couple of kph under. I just don't buy it.

Besides, it the two situations are "just as illegal" as each other, then you have potential situations where you're damned if you do, damned if you don't - if you speed up you'll get charged for speeding, if you slow down you'll get charged for obstructing.

I just don't buy it.

 

[MelodieOctavia]

But the fact of the matter is, on the freeway, it is just as illegal to hinder the flow of traffic, as it is to speed, so you have to use discretion. Not everything is so black and white. Especially traffic laws.

Do you have any source for this? Because it makes no sense what so ever. I accept that hindering the flow of traffic is an issue. But I'd love to see a case where somebody was charged for 'hindering the flow of traffic' by sticking to the speed limit. I don't mean by going 20kph UNDER the speed limit, I mean by being AT the speed limit or a couple of kph under. I just don't buy it.

Besides, it the two situations are "just as illegal" as each other, then you have potential situations where you're damned if you do, damned if you don't - if you speed up you'll get charged for speeding, if you slow down you'll get charged for obstructing.

I just don't buy it.

I can show you my mother in law's traffic ticket. It actually happened to her last week. You have no obligation to "buy" anything.

 

[ThatDudeWithTheFood]

But the fact of the matter is, on the freeway, it is just as illegal to hinder the flow of traffic, as it is to speed, so you have to use discretion. Not everything is so black and white. Especially traffic laws.

Do you have any source for this? Because it makes no sense what so ever. I accept that hindering the flow of traffic is an issue. But I'd love to see a case where somebody was charged for 'hindering the flow of traffic' by sticking to the speed limit. I don't mean by going 20kph UNDER the speed limit, I mean by being AT the speed limit or a couple of kph under. I just don't buy it.

Besides, it the two situations are "just as illegal" as each other, then you have potential situations where you're damned if you do, damned if you don't - if you speed up you'll get charged for speeding, if you slow down you'll get charged for obstructing.

I just don't buy it.

I can show you my mother in law's traffic ticket. It actually happened to her last week. You have no obligation to "buy" anything.

I'd like to add on some highways here in Atlanta at least you can actually get a ticket for going slightly below the speed limit because everyone is driving 20+ mph over it.

 

[Pleng]

I can show you my mother in law's traffic ticket. It actually happened to her last week. You have no obligation to "buy" anything.

Sure that'd be good to see. Along with the designated speed limit in the area she was travelling.

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[Zetta_x]

If the flow of traffic is 65mph and you are going 50 on the free way, you are an absolute danger. You cause other people to have to slow down or worse move over. When people move over and are going slower than the other lane, you make that lane slow down too. I have witnessed it several times, when trucks go 35 in one lane, they cause a near huge traffic build up just in their area.

Regardless of how much you try, you can't defend the fact that large amounts of people intentionally break the rules on a regular bases by saying that those who stick to the rules are somehow a danger.
If the speed limit is 50 and someone drives 50, then everyone else who is actively breaking the rules by driving 65 somehow gets the right to call them a danger?
There would be no need to slow down or change lanes if everyone would stick to the speed limits to begin with.
It's not the minority that sticks to rules that's the danger, the danger is the majority of drivers who break the rules on a regular basis, both the douchebags that speed up the flow of traffic beyond the speed limit AND the idiots that follow up on that instead of staying at the speed limit.

Hence my point, I did say... "if the flow of traffic is 65"

 

[ThatDudeWithTheFood]

I can show you my mother in law's traffic ticket. It actually happened to her last week. You have no obligation to "buy" anything.

Sure that'd be good to see. Along with the designated speed limit in the area she was travelling.

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[mysticwaterfall]

http://money.msn.com/auto-insurance/slow-drivers-can-get-ticketed-too-carinsurance.aspx

Personally, people going the speed limit don't bother me, but if you're going like 50 in a 65, that's a problem.

 

[Arras]

I dunno about the US, but here everyone goes about 5 over because that's the legal margin of error. If they check your speed using the radar guns or whatever and you're driving 55 (when limit is 50), you won't get a ticket because 5km over is still within the margin of error. Not sure how large that margin is, I think it's usually between 5 and 10 km/h but it depends on the maximum speed.

 

[MFDC12]

Most cops I've talked to say that if you go over the speed limit they don't care unless it is excessive or you are reckless about it. But that is certainly different for every town. On the route to Gainesville from where I live there is a place called Lawtey (also another city on the same route is like that too, but they aren't as strict). Basically the ENTIRE place is a speed trap, they strictly enforce it. And by strictly, even if you were going just a little over the speed limit you will get a ticket. You should assume most places aren't like that though, most police office should have better things to do than pull over someone for speeding.

However, just as you can get a ticket for speeding anywhere, you can definitely pose a risk for yourself and others by going under the speed limit as well as getting a ticket for that. If you are too slow you can definitely get pulled over and ticketed, and if you do it on the highway and your emergency blinkers are on, I really hope you make it to your destination safe, because I've heard of stories where a driver was going the speed limit and a person was way below the speed limit and they caused an accident. Not a fun thing!

I personally speed, more so if there is no one around me, if so I usually go the speed of traffic or similar. Personally, I don't care if you do but people who go slow (ie below the speed limit, also, people who go slow and DON'T use their blinkers) can be quite annoying

 

[Wizerzak]

I dunno about the US, but here everyone goes about 5 over because that's the legal margin of error. If they check your speed using the radar guns or whatever and you're driving 55 (when limit is 50), you won't get a ticket because 5km over is still within the margin of error. Not sure how large that margin is, I think it's usually between 5 and 10 km/h but it depends on the maximum speed.

Here in the UK the margin of error allowed is 10% +2mph

e.g In a 30mph zone you can get away with 35mph

 

[ShadowSoldier]

I can show you my mother in law's traffic ticket. It actually happened to her last week. You have no obligation to "buy" anything.

Sure that'd be good to see. Along with the designated speed limit in the area she was travelling.

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[Rydian]

Everybody knows that every state and every country has the exact same laws regarding speeding, right?

Oh wait, no, they don't, and there's links on the first page explaining the differences.

 

[Thesolcity]

 

[The Catboy]

I live on a back road and people always speed there. There are no cops there, so people just do whatever they want.
Now interestingly enough, even though the road is very narrow and dangerous, with twist and turns, the speed limit is 45MPH. But people still speed close to 70MPH down my road.

 

[Pleng]

Everybody knows that every state and every country has the exact same laws regarding speeding, right?

Oh wait, no, they don't, and there's links on the first page explaining the differences.

Jesus Christ dude back off, just accept that not everywhere in the world is the same as where you live.

This isn't about where I live. This is about b******t claims from people saying that there are certain situations where you can be fined for NOT speeding. If you're going to make radical claims, you better damned well be prepared to back it up with some citations, or your own evidence.

I have logic on my side. Without evidence or links of credible stories where people have been fined for holding up the flow of traffic by NOT going over the speed limit, these stories have about as much credibility as the latest 3DS Hack fill in my survey video.