Why Anime?

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Why anime? That's just like asking why people watch movies in general. It's just as broad of a question. You have many genres within Anime. Action, Comedy, Parody, Horror, Gore, Martial arts, Harem, Moe (bleh) and of course Adult.
 
ron975 said:
Seriously, what is so great about anime? It's a Japanese cartoon, why is it so ultimately great?
Well, the cartoons on TV are garbage and anime is slightly better in general. But there are only a few animes which are really good and lately I find anime a bit annoying because it's always the same with moe, stupid jokes, big breasts, all stereotype characters; older animes tend to be better.
 
monkat said:
SatanicSaint said:
Avatar:The Legend of Aang,Rocko's Modern Life,Angry Beavers,Fairly Oddparents,Rugrats,Spongebob and Simpsons etc.

Basically anime, cancelled, cancelled, very rarely worked on, cancelled, no longer good, and no longer good.

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THe Last Airbender was american.It was not an anime.
 
monkat said:
SatanicSaint said:
Avatar:The Legend of Aang,Rocko's Modern Life,Angry Beavers,Fairly Oddparents,Rugrats,Spongebob and Simpsons etc.

Basically anime, cancelled, cancelled, very rarely worked on, cancelled, no longer good, and no longer good.

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I hate to say it, but Monkat is right. Might as well add a "no longer good" onto Fairly OddParents, as well. I was watching the pilot episodes the other day, and was amazed at how much more clever and funny it was than the newer ones.

Ontopique:
First and foremost, I believe that the "cartoons Vs. anime" argument is futile. The majority of Western cartoons are leaned more on humor, in contrast with anime, which usually puts its emphasis on plot. So in the end, it's all a matter of how you like your cartoons. In my opinion, cartoons are cartoons, regardless of country of origin or theme.

That being said, I'm not too fond of anime as a whole. Not because it puts its emphasis on plot, but because of the fact that I can, in fact, call it its own genre. Japanese animation has become a muddled, wriggling cesspool of orthodoxy and unoriginality, with an unfathomable amount of animes using the same basic plots, themes, character clichés, and even art style. Sure, this holds true with any type of show, but the sheer monumental amount of nearly-interchangeable animes out there is far more glaring.

Many use the argument that animes appeal to a more adult sense of entertainment than many american cartoons, and though I can see why some people may grow tired of the cute and cuddly themes of western cartoons, I feel that it is not always necessary to use "adult themes and storylines" to create an entertaining, well-crafted, or epic experience. In my humble opinion, I find many of these "mature" animes to be more unintentionally melodramatic and sharing the same traits and plots as countless other shows. But once again, standards and preferences will vary.

My least favorite aspect of anime as a whole is the art style that seems to be prevalent. No doubt one of the most recognizable art styles today, it is also infamous for having the least variation. There is little room for creativity with this catch-all style, and as a result, anime characters from completely different shows may find themselves having nearly-interchangeable features.
Though many hate the anime art style solely for this reason, that actually isn't the part that irks me. No, the visual aspect of anime that I truly resent is the animation. Japanese animation was never known for the fluidity in which its characters and scenery move. In the early days of anime, this was acceptable due to the limitations of the methods the animators used. But to see jerky two-frame animations still prevalent in many of today's anime is simply inexcusable. Even animes with lots of over-the-top action are some of the worst offenders. Some will regard the art as insignificant to the more important story and plot. However, many animes lack in this areas as well. And besides, the animation of a cartoon, regardless of country of origin, is a huge signifier of its craftsmanship. If studios aren't willing to put forth effort in neither the story or the art, then what purpose does it serve?

Of course, there are exceptions to this unfortunate truth, with some animes breaking away from the monotony and really introducing original new ideas and attempting to breathe new life into the tired anime niche. But for the majority of them, my displeasure holds true. And once again, this is all just a matter of opinion. I still love you otakus out there!
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Home Movies (Canceled), Monkey Dust (Meh), Venture Brothers, King of the Hill (Canceled).

It's pretty hard to find any adult cartoon that isn't directed at potheads since thats apparently the only demographic that still watches cartoons.
 
Personally, I tend to enjoy anime more than other types of cartoons because they usually have deeper plots than western cartoons. But, that's not saying a western cartoon can't have a good plot. I mean, look at Avatar: The Last Airbender. I try not to treat anime differently than any other kind of cartoon, it just so happens that the majority of my favorite shows are anime. =/ Doesn't mean it's any better than western cartoons. I have nostalgia for both kinds of animation.
 
Well I for one really dislike American Cartoons not because its for "grown ups" as some ppl here said but more because its just plain stupid.
I am myself 23 years old and I allways think "how far down has this world fallen" whenever i see an American Cartoon, and not only cartoons but as well with several series, some are more or less fun but most are just plain stupid and try to get laughts out of shit.

With Anime its different, I do not watch every Anime only because its anime but I still preffer Anime over most other stuff.

I mostly like the Chara design (and no not every chara has spiky hair -.-V) and I like the comedy and stuff in Anime.
And all the nice scenery (at least when it does play in Japan XD) just makes me wish to be there.

P.S. like said as well Anime is not a Genre itselfs so you can't really say you like or dislike Anime, you can only say you dislike some sort of Anime.
Saying anime in General sucks would be the same like saying every single Movie with real ppl sucks bad without ever watching every one of them.
 
I find a lot of the older American cartoons funnier than anime, but overall anime has passed American cartoons in quality (Both in story and comedy) in the last 15 years.
 
Tonitonichopchop said:
I find a lot of the older American cartoons funnier than anime, but overall anime has passed American cartoons in quality (Both in story and comedy) in the last 15 years.


well thats more or less off topic but could you give some examples ?

When i was young i watched several American cartoons as well but after watching them several years later i got to see that they were not much more intelligent than nowadays, just that they were stupid in a different way.

(but yeah still would preffer my child (if i get one in my live) to watch these old cartoons than the newer ones)
 
Phineas and Ferb. The gem that is overlooked in favor of Spongebob (which in fact seems to be getting worse and worse).

Anyways, I like them equally and I don't care what it's called, from what country it came from and what art style it is. As long as it's good and nice to watch, it doesn't really matter.

My fave cartoon is P&F and my fave anime is Jigoku Shoujo and I like them both equally. I love everything and have no specific preference.
 
I enjoy a good Anime as much as a good book or a good movie or a good RPG or a good TV show.
The story comes first.
The realization is important too (the way the story is explained, filmed, camera views, how the feeling is passed to the viewer etc.)
Something nobody talked about too : The producer and Author are one of my first element in choosing a story I'll watch. It's like people reading all books ever release by Stephen King, or any other author.

Another thing too, Anime tends to have a story which span over episodes (arc). I'm not keen of 1 different story per episode ala Simpson for example.
I can watch one or two, but that's not my type.



For people thinking Anime are limited to shounen (naruto/bleach) and girls with big boobs (Bleach again?), I could suggest you these (not including movies like ghibli, and from other studios) :
- Mysterious cities of gold (historic/fantastic)
- Touch (drama/sport)
- Major (drama/sport)
- Hikaru No Go (drama/sport/fantastic)
- Versaille no bara (historic)
- Ie naki ko (Historic)

To name a few. There's not these kind of story elsewhere
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So, I watch them in anime.


Edit :
I once watched an interview of Jin roh's Author (Mamoru Oshii), and he said "I chose to make the 3rd part of the story in anime, because I could make more realistic scene than with real actors, I can make the expression and the feeling the way I want, the way that a real actors couldn't achieve perfectly".

I think the same way. Anime is a way to tell a story and make realization that real actor can't do, or producing would be too expansive, etc.
Anime is only a media support, not a single category to like or dislike.

It's like saying : Why book ? the one I read was bad. why do people like reading ?
 
"oh my god anime is so much better because western cartoons suck"

Everybody who has said this has never seen The Tick. Fact.


edit: vvvvvvvvv alternatively, they have incredibly bad taste and are giant Japanophiles.
 
ShadowSoldier said:
ron975 said:
Seriously, what is so great about anime? It's a Japanese cartoon, why is it so ultimately great?
EDIT: Maybe this woulda been better in the TV section, but still.
Because it isn't Family Guy/Cleveland Show/American Dad.

/thread.
the only similarity I see is lazy animation.
And it's called Japanimation thank you very much.
 

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