Whats your religion

tagzard Apr 9, 2011.

  1. Prophet

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    That question sounds awfully "outspoken and loud" to me.
     
  2. Hells Malice

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    It's a religion, read CAD Comics.
     
  3. antwill

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    Yes I did, thanks for picking up on that, I only just woke up lol. I'll go edit my post so as to not confuse anyone else reading this thread.
     
  4. Pyrmon

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    I was never talking about the Bible. And it wasn't refuting anything.
    I am refuting all what the site you linked to has on it. It isn't very hard since most of it is bull. By refuting fake claims, I also explain these scientific facts.

    Objection 1: They weren't meant to educate our specie, but to provide proof to future generations after these facts were discovered.

    Objection 2: As already stated, they weren't meant to educate us faster, so they couldn't be too precise as to make us discover things we would only have discovered naturally much later.

    Objection 3: Allah didn't want to communicate the facts to us, he wanted people who already knew them to read the Qur'an to provide further proof of the divine origin of the Qur'an.

    1. Big Bang
    The Heaven being talked about here is meant to be understood as Space. It means that everything was mixed and united as one. There wasn't space and there wasn't matter, it was all as one. All the talk about the invisible support is metaphorical and isn't meant to be taken literally.

    2. Expanding Universe
    In the original Arabic, this verse is meant as And We have levelled, smoothen the Earth.
    Again, when talking about the Heaven, it is a reference to Space and the Universe. In several translations it does say that there is expansion of the heavens. The original Arabic actually means that the heavens are expending.

    3. Gas
    The verse is talking about when most of the Universe was gaseous. That gas concentrated and formed stars after a certain density was reached. And then planets were formed. As for the part about chronological order, the Arabic word used for “days” is actually meant to be interpreted as “undetermined period of time” and if re-read the verse that way, it makes perfect sense. It isn't placed chronologically.

    4. Embriology
    Product of wet Earth: Either a metaphor that means something malleable or a reference to the fact we contain a large part of earth materials in us(iron, sodium, etc). The Qur'an stipulates that sperm is produced in the abdomen(between the ribs and the back) which is true.
    Hadith=/= religious scripture and have nothing to do in the debate.
    Again, the Qur'an doesn't mention the eggs of the women because it isn't meant to educate us. It stays a little vague.

    5. Sun setting
    The man saw The Sun set in the direction of a muddy spot. It is a figure of speech. It isn't literal.
    The next part is just bullshit. The Qur'an refers to a person's time, in that person's location. It's simple really. If you live in the Arctic circle and you don't know when to make your prayers because the Sun is always there, then just base your prayer times on another country's times.

    I could go on but I am feeling tired.
     
  5. antwill

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    Well that's just you. I was merely responding to someones post a few pages back about laughing at a scientologist. And no it's not outspoken or loud either. If you look at it from a logical point of view and just look at the facts of how it started. Also, answer my question please, what is your take on why one is accepted to be mocked openly but the other not?
     
  6. Prophet

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    I'd answer your question if I could, but I'm not a Mormon or a Scientologist so I don't spend time researching, critiquing or thinking about the two perspective faiths. I tend to just mind my own business. I find that to be the most productive way to spend my time; more people should try it.
     
  7. Blood Fetish

    Blood Fetish Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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    And when a religious person votes away your rights because their holy book tells them to will you still "mind your own business"?
     
  8. Sheith

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    ...Would it be considered ridiculous if I said I just recently converted to Haruhiism?
    Not trying to troll, just being honest. [​IMG]
     
  9. machomuu

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    Well then who is controlling the Earth and its events? Can't be Haruhi since she's not real.
     
  10. Thesolcity

    Thesolcity Wherever the light shines, it casts a shadow.

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    You're worried about religion removing your rights? Government already does that by its self.
     
  11. CherrySkitty

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    I'm a seventh day adventist o.o
     
  12. antwill

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    Now ask yourself, how many of them are religious and are doing it based on their own personal beliefs?
     
  13. Sterling

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    Many moral issues are held jointly by many USA inhabitants. In fact, in both parties, there are probably close to equal numbers of religious people.
     
  14. Prophet

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    Technically since they would be infringing upon my rights, in attending to this issue I would still be working within the sphere of "my business." Nonetheless, I take your point to be that some institutions are too dangerous to ignore. Here you have a point. However, I would argue that religious institutes are not particularly dangerous. In fact they are relatively benign in the scheme of things. We live in a world where greed and indifference run rampant. I'll start worrying about the dangers of religious institutes when Mormonism becomes the prominent reason that over 16000 children die of hunger and malnutrition every day. Or when a link is established between Scientology and the 27 million people across the globe who are at this very moment trapped in slavery.

    In short, your invented religious "boogie-man" that's gunning for my rights, doesn't scare me; I recognize the truth -- Religion isn't the monster, Man is.
     
  15. Fellow

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  16. Blood Fetish

    Blood Fetish Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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    You are correct, and modern religion was invented to control man.
     
  17. Paulieo

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    I don't really have a religion, but if I had to pick I would be a new thought practitioner.
     
  18. Vulpes Abnocto

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    I don't quite understand. Can you perhaps expand on this label with a definition of what you think, and why you think it?
     
  19. Paulieo

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    http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/2001/06/Wh...rs-Believe.aspx I took a quiz and this is what I got as my ideal religion and it fits all of my beliefs.
     
  20. Blood Fetish

    Blood Fetish Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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    Doesn't that seem backwards to you? Take a quiz, and whichever religion matches your personality the best is the one which is "true"?
     
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