What we know about RedNAND so far

Discussion in 'Wii U - Hacking & Backup Loaders' started by MattKimura, Nov 5, 2016.

  1. MattKimura
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    This'll be a post to list some DO's and DON'T's to help people plan ahead when setting up RedNAND and their games. I'll try to update this as I gain more info. This is a post I made on Reddit, I brought it here to build a discussion about it and hopefully build the list further with more facts.

    NOTE: When I mention installed games, I always mean through the Brazilian method aka disc tickets



    Facts about linked NANDS (Never formatted SysNAND)
    Warning: Spoilers inside!



    Facts about unlinked NANDS (Formatted SysNAND)
    Warning: Spoilers inside!



    Misc Facts about RedNAND (Unrelated to linked/unlinked)

    Warning: Spoilers inside!



    More info soon, still editing. Suggestions would be great, I'll add them to the list. Correct me on some of these if you can.
     
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  2. Irastris

    Irastris Just another fag with a suggestive avatar

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    Does anyone have a clue on why that doesn't seem to work vice-versa? (Installing the game internally on sysNAND.)
     
  3. RandomUser

    RandomUser What has gotten into you Rosie?

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    I think this may need some revision. I have thought that if you install games in redNAND with an invalid ticket, then it should not be able to play in sysnand. That is if you apply the Brazilian patch to the legit ticket then it is possible to do this.
     
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  4. MattKimura
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    MattKimura 3DS & WiiU Enthusiast

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    Thanks I'll add this info to the post. Whenever I mention installing games, I always mean the Brazilian method with disc tickets.
     
  5. TheZander

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    anyone try booting a rednand from one wiiu on another wiiu? I have 2 at the moment but do not feel like going through the hassle of pairing a gamepad
     
  6. AboodXD

    AboodXD I hack NSMB games, and other shiz.

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    Those are also facts about un-linked NANDs:
    Warning: Spoilers inside!
     
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  7. Dvdxploitr

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    I have my NANDS linked and have no problem so far....with me having an 8GB Wii U, all my games are stored on USB...however, something else that can be added

    Games downloaded from NUS will work without a ticket mod in RedNAND only....if you attempt to run these in SysNAND, it'll give an error about Nintendo ID being wrong


    I have personally downloaded a few games using FunkiiU and installed them without swapping out .tik files
     
  8. AboodXD

    AboodXD I hack NSMB games, and other shiz.

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    @Dvdxploitr To make it simpler:
    You can install unsigned apps on redNAND, like games/updates/DLCs/homebrew with a fake (not real) ticket.
     
  9. BIFFTAZ

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    This doesnt make sense. forget the USB part because thats true, but if you install something to rednand internal or sysnand internal, Whether they're linked or not will not show up on the other nand UNLESS the games were installed on sysnand internal before dumping sysnand to make a rednand image.

    Installed mario party, mario bros u & sys config tool on rednand internal while linked & they never showed up on sysnand at all.
     
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  10. Scoop111

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    Somebody over at the RedNAND-Thread reported, that USB-installed DLC for Mario Kart 8 (in RedNAND) also works in sysNAND. Makes sense to me, at least if the game was installed before dumping and creating redNAND.
    Because I've read several times, that the WiiU only checks tickets on installation, not when starting a game...

    Edit: I just re-read the other thread and it seems, it only worked for that guy because he once puchased the DLC and later used a fake ticket on redNAND because he didn't want to enter eshop again to redownload. My bad...
     
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  11. Ncm

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    I have Mario Kart installed on USB with Brazilian exploit. So, if I install RedNand without unlinking my SysNand, and if I install a DLC for Mario Kart, save will be unique to each Nand right ? So if I play online, I can have two different save for the same profil ? And won't be a problem if I play with Mario Kart on sysNand if I already installed DLC on usb when I was on RedNand ?
     
  12. geheim

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    So DLC on the internal storage gets deleted at booting RedNAND, right?? Does this apply to legally bought and installed DLC on sysNAND as well?? (I mean booting up RedNAND deleting that DLC??)
     
  13. AboodXD

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    When you install DLC for free in redNAND on the internal storage and reboot the system, all the DLCs will be gone, even the ones you purchased.

    This doesn't happen when the game is on USB though. I tried it.
     
  14. geheim

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    Thanks, so if I install any DLC for free (eg. Hyrule Warriors) in RedNAND, my sysNAND installed legally purchased MK8 DLC will also be gone on sysNAND after reboot??
     
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  15. AboodXD

    AboodXD I hack NSMB games, and other shiz.

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    It'll be gone on redNAND only.
     
  16. geheim

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    Okay I understand, so that's no Problem for me ;) Then I'll just install free DLC on USB only and can continue playing my legally purchased DLC on sysNAND internal. Perfect :)
    Thanks for your fast anserws @AboodXD !
     
  17. dedChar

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    Not sure about this one. I have installed DLC on rednand on both Internal and USB Memory. I have not lost any DLC yet.
     
  18. keine

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    What utilities are needed to do this?
    Would a VC game like Super Mario Galaxy 1 without dump work?
    How is the process different from Brazillian USB when using a proper rednand?
     
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  19. Irastris

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    You cannot install Cafe2Wii titles such as Super Mario Galaxy on either redNAND or sysNAND. You'll probably get bricked by installing to sysNAND, and redNAND doesn't have vWii support. (Yet.)

    As for installing titles on redNAND, it's not really different from the Brazilian method at all. Just install titles using WUP Installer Y Mod.
     
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  20. MattKimura
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    MattKimura 3DS & WiiU Enthusiast

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    You mentioned installing games to internal, and it being copied over as you create rednand. But what about USB installed games?

    I'm planning on installing games on sysnand first, then creating rednand so that I can have two environments both with the same games. Playing non DLC games on sysnand and DLC based games on rednand.