Ways Nintendo Can Kill A9LH?

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  1. OldGlass
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    Have you ever thought of the ways Nintendo can kill A9LH?
    Is it even possible? To kill A9LH, Nintendo would have to release some sort of update that messes with the Arm9 kernel right? However it will only be effective if your 3DS have A9LH installed, and for people without A9LH, wouldn't the update just mess around with their Arm9 kernel and break it?

    Sorry if I'm wrong on these things, since I'm not very knowledgeable in the 3DS cryptography
     


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    Short answer they can't. But new hardware will most likely kill a9lh

    A9lh happens to early in boot for the system update to fix it correct me if I'm wrong. Once you have your OTP its a wrap
     
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    New hardware? You mean the NX?
    So does that means A9LH on 3DS will never be patched?
     
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    No a new 3ds motherboard
     
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    Well, they *could* replace arm9loaderhax.bin with some... Gateway-style code - if you know what I mean.


    Though I doubt they will.
     
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    what gives you the feeling of doubt?
     
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    I'm not sure they'd mess with the user's files.
     
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    Didn't stop them from bricking a ton of Wii's with a update
     
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    Don't quote me on this, but I think that'd be illegal.
     
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    It might, which is I'm not sure.
     
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    Depends on location
     
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    would they bother doing it for only a few? I mean, it wouldn't be too hard... but... yeah, idk.
     
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    I think it's not possible for them to fix this. Only way is a either preupdated systems that can't be downgraded or a new revision that is not following the other presidier of booting.
     
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    They *can* brick consoles with A9LH, or make A9LH load a payload to uninstall A9LH. Not sure if they're allowed to mess with the user's files though.
     
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    Wasn't that the end-users fault, though? Only happened on Wiis that had their region changed to Korean, IIRC.
     
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    Let's be realistic guys 3ds is at end of life its easier just to release a new gen handheld

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    Really? I thought anyone with modifications on there system I want to say around 3.0 system version
     
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    Uninstall? You mean overwrite it? Yes that's a normal common way to fix it. But that's why the CFWs protect Firm partitions so they can't uninstall it or fix it.

    Brick? That's pretty illegal and would cause most likely a lot of false positives and bad press. I don't think Nintendo is losing money on A9HL since the 3DS is probably on it's end and the NX is on the horzion. If now it's a replacement for both the 3DS and Wii U that is.
     
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    It would not. If they made an a9lh payload that bricks it, it'd execute before firm was locked the next time the system booted.
    Or, they could make an A9lh payload to uninstall A9LH and return it to its factory state.
     
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    Well, they could change the boot rom to use a different crypt. Sony did this with their PSP revisions.

    Well, rather than messing with your files, which is not really OK per se, banning you is a much easier option. Sony bans anyone if they know you have homebrew on your Vita.
     
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    They can just rename your file to something else, and say that the Nintendo 3DS needs that arm9loaderhax.bin file as part of their "stability", it'd only affect A9LHaxxed consoles. Banning wouldn't affect many people. A large number of people doesn't give a fuck about eShop or online play. And freeShop, for example, uses Nintendo's servers to download the games, which does NOT require any authentication. They also wouldn't IP ban people, it could affect innocent people which happen to use the same hotspot (ex. a coffee shop, an airport, etc) as people who use this. Essentially, the 3DS' server security is flawed and banning people is... useless.