Hacking wads installed on real nand

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Some games do not play with emunand and usbloader gx.
These are:
  • paper mario (n64)
  • majoras mask (n64)
  • Castlevania The Adventure ReBirth wiiware
  • Drop Zone
  • toki tori
  • swords and soldiers
  • world of goo
  • and some more
  1. Is there a problem if I install them to the real nand as I want to play them?
  2. How many mbytes is the real nand 512 mbyte or something?
  3. So to be safe can I install about 400mbyte of those "problematic" games?
 

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I installed all my wads on the real nand.
Basically, I'd recommend you to install one or two at the time, and then use the Wii System Menu to move them to the SD card.
This way you free up space to install more wads.

I've got c.ca 150 wads istalled on the real nand and they all work flawlessly.
You just move them to the SD card and play them from there, then your only limit is the size of the SD card.
 
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For at least some of those cases (notably about half of the N64 games), you need to use Waninkoko CIOSes, not d2x. I don't remember the exact bases and revisions, but USB Loader GX specifically allows for emulated NAND from some. You can just install a Waninkoko CIOS alongside your d2x and set USBLGX to use that IOS for your problem games.

Someone else will hopefully be along with more details.
 

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For at least some of those cases (notably about half of the N64 games), you need to use Waninkoko CIOSes, not d2x. I don't remember the exact bases and revisions, but USB Loader GX specifically allows for emulated NAND from some. You can just install a Waninkoko CIOS alongside your d2x and set USBLGX to use that IOS for your problem games.

Someone else will hopefully be along with more details.

yes i need some more details.
 

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some games doesn't work at all (Castlevania for example) on EmuNAND with USBLoaderGX (it requires Sneek environement).
Install them on Real NAND and use the loader to list both Real and Emulated NAND.


If you want to install some games which require old/different cIOS on your EmuNAND, it's a bit more complicated.

The (Quick, not a details tutorial) steps are :
1 - the cIOS
install all needed cIOS (rev17, rev19 (base 38 I think), d2x (different version have different compatiblity) in different slots on your Wii. preferably in the 240-250 range.

2 - The Emulated NANDs
You have two choice:
2.1 - put your EmuNAND path on the root (all the folders on the root, not inside /nand/ folder)
or
2.2 - use two different EmuNAND path : one on the Root (to use with cIOS rev17/19), one in a subfolder (/nand/ to use with cIOS d2x)
Note: old cIOS require the NAND to be on the root of the first FAT32 partition of the 512Byte/sector drive. subfolder support was added in rev21, multi-partition in d2x v3, 4K sector in d2x v4.

3- The Titles
Install problematic games in the EmuNAND located on the Root
Optional : If you use the dual path (root + subfolder), then install the problematic game in both EmuNANDs.

4- The Settings
Go into the problematic game's Settings to set the cIOS to the slot where you installed the required cIOS version (if you installed rev19 in slot 240, set the N64 games to cIOS 240)
Optional : If you use the dual path choice (root + subfolder), then also set the problematic game's settings "Nand path" to the root.


Result :
The USBLoaderGX will list all channels found on the "default" emuNAND (/nand/), using the default cIOS (d2x):
it will also see the problematic games as they are installed on the default EmuNAND, but these problematic games have a different setting : IOS and path
 
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1 - the cIOS
install all needed cIOS (rev17, rev19 (base 38 I think), d2x (different version have different compatiblity) in different slots on your Wii. preferably in the 240-250 range.

4- The Settings
Go into the problematic game's Settings to set the cIOS to the slot where you installed the required cIOS version (if you installed rev19 in slot 240, set the N64 games to cIOS 240)

I have these things installed so can i do the the step 4 with the settings. I dont know much of the cios.
sd:\wad\1OS236.wad
sd:\wad\Backup HBC - MAUI.wad
sd:\wad\cIOS9-v6174-TED.wad
sd:\wad\cIOS11-v6174-TED.wad
sd:\wad\cIOS16-v257.wad
sd:\wad\cIOS20-v6174-TED.wad
sd:\wad\cIOS30-v6174-TED.wad
sd:\wad\cIOS36-v3094-TEND.wad
sd:\wad\cIOS50-v4889-TED.wad
sd:\wad\cIOS60-v6174-TED.wad
sd:\wad\cIOS70-v6174-TED.wad
sd:\wad\cIOS80-v6174-TED.wad
sd:\wad\cIOS90-v6174-TED.wad
sd:\wad\cIOS202[60]-v5.1R.wad
sd:\wad\cIOS222[38]-v4.wad
sd:\wad\cIOS223[37-38]-v4.wad
sd:\wad\cIOS224[57]-v5.1R.wad
sd:\wad\cIOS245[37]-d2x-v8-final.wad
sd:\wad\cIOS246[38]-d2x-v8-final.wad
sd:\wad\cIOS247[53]-d2x-v8-final.wad
sd:\wad\cIOS248[55]-d2x-v8-final.wad
sd:\wad\cIOS249[56]-d2x-v8-final.wad
sd:\wad\cIOS250[57]-d2x-v8-final.wad
sd:\wad\cIOS251[58]-d2x-v8-final.wad
sd:\wad\RVL-cMIOS-v65535(v10)_WiiGator_WiiPower_v0.2.wad
sd:\wad\USB Loader GX-UNEO_Forwarder_4_0_AHBPROT.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS12-64-v526.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS13-64-v1032.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS14-64-v1032.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS15-64-v1032.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS17-64-v1032.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS21-64-v1039.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS22-64-v1294.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS28-64-v1807.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS31-64-v3608.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS33-64-v3608.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS34-64-v3608.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS35-64-v3608.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS37-64-v5663.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS38-64-v4124.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS41-64-v3607.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS43-64-v3607.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS45-64-v3607.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS46-64-v3607.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS48-64-v4124.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS53-64-v5663.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS55-64-v5663.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS56-64-v5662.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS57-64-v5919.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS58-64-v6176.wad
sd:\wad\IOS-Update\IOS61-64-v5662.wad
sd:\wad\shop channel v21\RVL-Shopping-v21.wad
sd:\wad\shop channel v21\IOS62-64-6430.wad
 

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You have D2x version 8 installed in :
IOS slot 245
IOS slot 246
IOS slot 247
IOS slot 248
IOS slot 249
IOS slot 250
IOS slot 251

You need cIOS rev17 and rev19 for N64 games.
For information, D2x is a modification/improvement of custom IOS version 21.

rev17
rev18
rev19
rev20
rev21
rev21 mod d2x v1, v2, .., v8, v9, v10
 

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You have D2x version 8 installed in :
IOS slot 245
IOS slot 246
IOS slot 247
IOS slot 248
IOS slot 249
IOS slot 250
IOS slot 251

You need cIOS rev17 and rev19 for N64 games.
any links and can you be more specific about how to install these cios you recommend me .
Thanks in advance Cyan.
 

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use modmii to get the cIOS and select which slot they will be installed to.
Don't overwite useful content on your Wii, check what you have using Syscheck (look in my signature) to see all your used slots and what's installed in them.
once you decided on empty slots (for example 240 to 244), use modmii to download cIOS rev17 and tell modmii you want to install rev17 in slot 240.
it will create a .wad file that you need to install using a wad manager.

You may need to enable "beta" in modmii to find more cIOS versions.
 
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The wiiware will work only on real nand and then i can move to the sd card i suppose?
Is there a danger of bricking? Ill install via wad manager 1.7
I only want to play 2 n64 games so maybe i will pass and not install the cIOS rev17 and rev19
 

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yeah, it's better and easier to pass if you don't have a real need of that method and if it's too complicated for your current knowledge.

Just install them on Real NAND.
There are always a risk of bricking, if you install a bad/corrupted/fake Title.
 

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yeah, it's better and easier to pass if you don't have a real need of that method and if it's too complicated for your current knowledge.

Just install them on Real NAND.
There are always a risk of bricking, if you install a bad/corrupted/fake Title.
Thanks again :)

1.Is showmiiwads reliable to check the wads?
2.How many mbytes can I install on the real NAND?
I want about 250mbyte of games.
I am thinking to install them 1by1 via wad manager 1.7
 

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When I download Waninkoko CIOS using Download Pages or Advanced Download, it doesn't ask for a slot to install and I can't see any option to edit this.

EDIT: I found how to edit, but it is somewhat confusing, you have to know all the CIOS codes to mark them for download and edit, but on Advanced Download, the name of the CIOS doesn't appear like on Download Pages.
 

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I installed all my wads on the real nand.
Basically, I'd recommend you to install one or two at the time, and then use the Wii System Menu to move them to the SD card.
This way you free up space to install more wads.

I've got c.ca 150 wads istalled on the real nand and they all work flawlessly.
You just move them to the SD card and play them from there, then your only limit is the size of the SD card.

"New" to jailbreaking. How do I install the wad onto my native nand? I only really want 2 or 3 of them so the space isnt a problem for me
 

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U use a wad manager. But if you didn't already know this u probably haven't softmodded your wii properly first, which u should do to make sure u have protection from the wads your going to test out. Use modmii or wii.guide

Edit: this topic is really old btw...
 
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U use a wad manager. But if you didn't already know this u probably haven't softmodded your wii properly first, which u should do to make sure u have protection from the wads your going to test out. Use modmii or wii.guide

Edit: this topic is really old btw...

Yeah no kidding man.... I've been quoted from a 2006 post LOL.... And to think I've got here while I was looking for some geko codes for MP3 on dolphin, then I clicked on a tread and it was on GBAtemp and I got a notification. Good to know my old profile is still working

Regarding the original question, it's been 15 years man, I can't even remember what I did back then, besides following XFlak guides to the letter, it gave me anything I needed to know, good luck.
 
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