Hacking USB Loader GX: Black screen when loading Wii games

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

Oh really? Then I've done it wrong many times. Ok, I will try that as well.

EDIT: Oh man, you were correct. The solution was to just set it to "Disc Default".
Feel stupid for having forced PAL in the past. Thanks a lot!

 

[IRISKane]

Cyan, (Or anyone) Mind having a look at my problem?
Trying to launch games from a flashdrive using USB Loader GX on a vWii (Wii U), as soon as I hit (Play) the screen goes black, no sound, wiimote disconnects and the console needs to be hard rebooted.

PAL (Aus) Wii U
firmware: 4.3E
HBC version 1.1.2 on IOS58
USB Loader GX 3.0 (rev 1262)
cIOS d2x-v10beta52-vWii
USB loaded using Wii Backup Manager
8GB SanDisk Cruze Blade (device list says it's compatible)

Loader settings:
Video Mode: Disk Default
Dol Video Patch: All
Loader: IOS249
Game: IOS249

Spoiler: SysCheck

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on vIOS58 (rev 6432).

Region: PAL (original region: AUS)
System Menu 4.3E (v610)

Drive date: 06.28.2011
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x21
Console ID: 607958384
Console Type: vWii
Shop Channel Country: Australia (65)
Boot2 v0
Found 51 titles.
Found 35 IOS on this console. 0 of them are stubs.

vIOS9 (rev 1290): No Patches
vIOS12 (rev 782): No Patches
vIOS13 (rev 1288): No Patches
vIOS14 (rev 1288): No Patches
vIOS15 (rev 1288): No Patches
vIOS17 (rev 1288): No Patches
vIOS21 (rev 1295): No Patches
vIOS22 (rev 1550): No Patches
vIOS28 (rev 2063): No Patches
vIOS31 (rev 3864): No Patches
vIOS33 (rev 3864): No Patches
vIOS34 (rev 3864): No Patches
vIOS35 (rev 3864): No Patches
vIOS36 (rev 3864): No Patches
vIOS37 (rev 5919): No Patches
vIOS38 (rev 4380): No Patches
vIOS41 (rev 3863): No Patches
vIOS43 (rev 3863): No Patches
vIOS45 (rev 3863): No Patches
vIOS46 (rev 3863): No Patches
vIOS48 (rev 4380): No Patches
vIOS53 (rev 5919): No Patches
vIOS55 (rev 5919): No Patches
vIOS56 (rev 5918): No Patches
vIOS57 (rev 6175): No Patches
vIOS58 (rev 6432): USB 2.0
vIOS59 (rev 9249): No Patches
vIOS62 (rev 6942): No Patches
vIOS80 (rev 7200): No Patches
vIOS236 (rev 65535): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
vIOS249[56] (rev 21010, Info: d2x-v10beta52-vWii): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
vIOS250[57] (rev 21010, Info: d2x-v10beta52-vWii): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
vIOS251[58] (rev 21010, Info: d2x-v10beta52-vWii): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
vIOS512 (rev 7): No Patches
vIOS513 (rev 1): No Patches
Report generated on 11/20/2017.

Won't launch any PAL, NTSC U or NTSC J games. Any advice would be very much appreciated!

 

[Cyan]

what happens if you disable "Dol Video patch" ?
did you try, or set the path to all right away ? that option should be used only in last resort.

no game are working at all ?
All your setup is fine except that dol video patch option. so first disable it.

it seems the issue could be the device itself, flashdrives are not a good choice on wii and wiiu. they have issues.
Try another flashdrive, or better try an external hard drive.


also, you should use slot250 instead of 249. it has better compatibility with games (when it works )

 

[IRISKane]

Hey, thanks for the reply.

Yes sorry, I had tried without dol patch enabled, and had the same result.
I've now tested with both the loader and game ios set to 250, usb loader worked like normal but games still won't start.

I'm attempting to use a 500GB Astone external harddrive with a y shaped usb cable. I've freshly formatted it using FAT32, and loaded several games onto it, and got an odd result; usb loader initialized the device but detected no games, and displayed "0.19gb free of 0.19gb" - odd because the HDD is 500gb, so clearly it's not being read properly. I'm still working on this and will see if I can get it to read the device correctly, advice welcome

Just to confirm, no games are working at all! Once I have the 500GB HDD working I'll try to burn a game from it's physical disk to the HDD and then launch it though USB Loader. hopefully that will shed some light on the issue.

Thanks again, cheers

 

[Cyan]

go to settings > hdd menu > clicl on the first option to scroll between all existing partition.
it looks like your hdd has a small hidden partition (0.19gb)

or maybe the disk is encrypted with the manufacturer's tool (seagate or WD), or just need a refresh in the menu to force the partition detection after using a different drive.

 

[IRISKane]

Oh, I had no idea that option was there, that worked to show the games list.
And even better switching to the HDD solved the black screen issue as well! Awesome!
So I can now run all the games I've tested so far.

Thanks so much for your help Cyan

 

[Todd265]

Sorry I posted a question here and realised it's not the done thing... so deleted it and will start a thread with my own question...

 

[Kanzar]

Got a bit of a baffling problem.

I had USB Loader GX working fine previously, on two different storage devices.

I went to a friend's house with my Wii and it stopped working...! It would boot up the loader, it would show my games, but on trying to run a game, it would have the dreaded black screen and controller desync.

Panicking, I took it home and worried I had broken something physical.

I've reinstalled USB Loader GX, reformatted the drives and reloaded the software using Wii Backup Manager. The drives were formatted to NTFS.

Curiously, I have now got it working again by formatting the smaller drive to WBFS. Anyone have any clue if there's something I'm doing wrong/what changed that the previously working drives don't work anymore?

EDIT: I seem to have fixed it by re-installing d2x-cios v8, which is really curious as now I have no idea how it broke. >_>;

 

[Cyan]

I think it never broke.
the problem was probably your friend's console setup (maybe you plugged in the wrong USB Port, which can list games but can't launch them), or maybe he had a wrong cIOS setup, or you brought only the games and not your settings (on SD?) and used his own settings which were wrong (video mode, debug mode enabled, etc.).
You talked about wiimote unsync, so I highly suspect his console used a badly installed cIOS, or he still had a very old cIOS rev20 instead of d2x. rev20 is known to have that symptom : black screen + wiimote unsync or lag.

WBFS partition format is not necessary, you could have used your NTFS (or FAT32), you probably just needed to force a partition refresh because after formatting it the loader might have the old partition info in memory. (settings>hdd settings>click first option to force a partition refresh)

 

[tylereckert]

@Cyan I see you seem to be the guru for Wii hacking on this forum, any ideas? I have spent sooo many hours trying to get this dang thing to work...

 

[Cyan]

any idea to what? that's your first post in this thread, you didn't tell what problem you had nor what your setup nor what you tested.
Ahh maybe .. wait ...

... HDD ...... Video mode....debug mode..... USB Port ...... cIOS .....

yeah, that's it. It's either hardware issue, video mode, wrong USB Port, debug enabled without a dubugger plugged, or an outdated or wrong cIOS version/base for a specific game.

you need to test ANOTHER thing to narrow the issue.
Test another HDD to check if it's caused by your HDD.
Test playing from disc instead of USB to see if the problem is your USB port, or HDD format.
You don't use Flash drive, right? because if you do, it's like you are begging to get problems, you might like having issues and create them by yourself, don't ask for help if you like problems.
Test another Loader (Wiiflow, CFG, Postloader, neek, etc.) to see if it's caused by USBLoaderGX
Test another USB cable, to see if it's your cable
Test another Wii to see if the problem is your Wii hardware ?
Test another ..... something, so see if it's caused by that one too.

etc. ?
etc.?

Once everything has been narrowed to USBLoaderGX and a specific reason, then we could fix it (whether it's HDD init, or video mode, etc.)

 

[tylereckert]

@Cyan Sorry I posted on the wrong thread, see this thread for the post I was trying to reply to the thread in this same section of the forum titled "USB Loader GX Problem - Going Back to Homebrew (SysCheck File Included!)

It was posted about the same time as this thread was started. Sorry about the confusion.

 

[Cyan]

ahh, sorry , I thought you also had black screen problems
Then I also replied in your other thread. (about using a more recent syscheck version and replacing cIOS with r52)

edit: ahh, no, my mistake. I posted in someone else with the same problem.
I'll post an answer in yours now.

 

[Kanzar]

I think it never broke.
the problem was probably your friend's console setup (maybe you plugged in the wrong USB Port, which can list games but can't launch them), or maybe he had a wrong cIOS setup, or you brought only the games and not your settings (on SD?) and used his own settings which were wrong (video mode, debug mode enabled, etc.).
You talked about wiimote unsync, so I highly suspect his console used a badly installed cIOS, or he still had a very old cIOS rev20 instead of d2x. rev20 is known to have that symptom : black screen + wiimote unsync or lag.

WBFS partition format is not necessary, you could have used your NTFS (or FAT32), you probably just needed to force a partition refresh because after formatting it the loader might have the old partition info in memory. (settings>hdd settings>click first option to force a partition refresh)

I actually brought my entire console over to his house (his being a vanilla console) so it wasn't anything to do with incorrect or wrong port/cIOS/SD card. My NTFS formatted external HD (second storage device) has not been reformatted but works now after I refreshed cIOS on my unit, so I don't know if there really was an issue with the external drives.

 

[Cyan]

ah, I didn't understand then. I thought you tried on his console.
Maybe your cIOS had been replaced with a stub ? (nintendo released dummy, doing nothing, IOS which installs in the same slot that known IOS slot used for piracy)
maybe you tried to play a game from the disc channel ? or updated the console from network ? both are responsible for overwriting a cIOS. It can be prevented by using Priiloader and patching the update options.

 

[Kanzar]

I'd fully updated the console previously and re-softmodded it, and I never try to play a disc game. Ah well, it's all fixed now. >_>

 

[mobsta]

Hey everyone! I'm having the same issue, I recently got my wii back up and running and I keep getting a black screen when I try to load any wii games. It used to work a year or 2 ago when I tried but now all I get is a black screen. I have to reboot the wii every time. I tried updating the cIOS but I don't really understand this stuff so I might be missing something. I updated my usb loader gx to the latest version and a few other things but no matter what I do I can't get the games to run! My gamecube games off nintendont work fine tho. Its just the wii games that don't work.

Please help! Here's my sys check...

Spoiler: Sys check

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.3U (v513)

Drive date: 02.13.2007
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x11
Console ID: 71251101
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: United States (49)
Boot2 v4
Found 90 titles.
Found 55 IOS on this console. 7 of them are stubs.

IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, Flash Access, NAND Access
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS80 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS90 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS222 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS223 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS236 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, Beer Ticket
IOS245[37] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS246[38] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS247[53] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS248[55] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS249[56] (rev 21010, Info: d2x-v10beta53-alt): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS251[58] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v65535
Report generated on 07/16/2018.

 

[Cyan]

I didn't read your message yet, just looked at syscheck and I can already see a problem :
IOS249[56] (rev 21010, Info: d2x-v10beta53-alt): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0

replace the slot 249 with d2x v10 r52 instead of r53, same base (base56)


Latest does not mean better.
the latest release is a beta version, unstable version.
please use revision 52 only.

edit:
as for your problem, it's either :
- caused by that cIOS version you installed
- you are probably using a flash drive. Flash drives are not working (anymore) with the Wii. please, use a real HDD, not a stick/key/flash drive.
- you are using a flash drive, and didn't set the loader's IOS to 58. (though, you said you have issue at game launch, not at loader's launch, which makes me think this option will not fix your problem)
- you plugged the drive in the wrong usb port.

 

[MetallicFear]

I've been having issues with my harddrive. When I use my thumbdrive, it loads/plays gamecube games with no issue but when I use my portable hard drive(formatted to fat32), it's stuck on initializing. I've changed the IOS to 58 and that did allow me to see my wii games but not the gamecube games. Running a wii game like this also results in a black screen. What did I do wrong here?



Here's my syscheck:

Spoiler

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline Double_A R2-D2199 and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).
Region: PAL (original region: AUS)
System Menu 4.3E (v514)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 12.18.2008
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58
Hollywood v0x21
Console ID: 150378229
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: Australia (65)
Boot2 v4
Found 62 titles.
Found 48 IOS on this console. 15 of them are stubs.
IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 256): Stub
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 256): Stub
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 2816): Stub
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 5120): Stub
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 6400): Stub
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 6912): Stub
IOS80 (rev 6944): No Patches
IOS222 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS223 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS249[56] (rev 21010 Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug NAND Access USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 21010 Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug NAND Access USB 2.0
IOS251[58] (rev 65535 Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug NAND Access USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10
Report generated on 07/31/2018.

 

[Cyan]

your setup is good.
so, it's really strange because you said "flash drive works with gamecube" (which is normal), and then you said you use "hard drive" which doesn't work with either gamecube OR wii games.

So either :
1. your hard drive is a flash drive ? (SSD, stick ?)
2. your hard drive is not properly formatted (FAT32? no exFat!)
3. you plugged it in the wrong USB Port, have multiple USB connected, or didn't set the path/options to display gamecube games properly.
4. your hard drive is just not compatible with the Wii