TV: Size or OLED?

[yankii]

I was looking into getting a TV and I'm wondering which is the better option - a large LED TV or a smaller OLED TV - at the same price.

They both have basic features such as a high refresh rate, ALLM, VRR, etc.

 

[zxr750j]

Size matters, sound too though...

 

[yankii]

Size matters, sound too though...

I'm just going to use headphones for that

 

[sarkwalvein]

Depends on preferences of the individual I guess. I would never get an 85". It is just too big and uncomfortable and it hurts......... my eyes.

I mean, I see double with such a big TV, I would always prefer something between 32" and 48" with good contrast ratio, color reproduction, zero or close to zero ghosting... So 48" OLED for me without a doubt.

 

[JayPea]

OLED all day, every day. Assuming your primary use case is gaming then IQ is king imo. Why would you want to see more of a lower quality image?

 

[tech3475]

It's really hard to say without knowing your circumstances.

The basic thing would be to look at the size vs the distance that you're going for and then consider things like brightness which could be an issue depending on the lighting in the room.

You could buy the 48" OLED but then need benolculars to get a decent view or get the 85" and need to physically move your head like it's a plotter.

Also look at longevity, I think RTings has been running years long tests on TVs to see how long some may last.

That said, I plan on going OLED for my next TV after seeing on in a retail store, the difference was black and white between the LED next to it, although I'm hesitant to go for the cheaper model due to some concerns e.g. brightness as I believe the one I was looking at was dimmer than my current TV.

Maybe look for a retailer in your area you can browse in.

 

[yankii]

Depends on preferences of the individual I guess. I would never get an 85". It is just too big and uncomfortable and it hurts......... my eyes.

I mean, I see double with such a big TV, I would always prefer something between 32" and 48" with good contrast ratio, color reproduction, zero or close to zero ghosting... So 48" OLED for me without a doubt.

I always use everything at max brightness, so it shouldn't be an issue, lol.

OLED all day, every day. Assuming your primary use case is gaming then IQ is king imo. Why would you want to see more of a lower quality image?

I hadn't thought of that, tbh. Would it really look that bad in games? Minus the 180p pixel art stuff, I mean.

It's really hard to say without knowing your circumstances.

The basic thing would be to look at the size vs the distance that you're going for and then consider things like brightness which could be an issue depending on the lighting in the room.

You could buy the 48" OLED but then need benolculars to get a decent view or get the 85" and need to physically move your head like it's a plotter.

Also look at longevity, I think RTings has been running years long tests on TVs to see how long some may last.

That said, I plan on going OLED for my next TV after seeing on in a retail store, the difference was black and white between the LED next to it, although I'm hesitant to go for the cheaper model due to some concerns e.g. brightness as I believe the one I was looking at was dimmer than my current TV.

Maybe look for a retailer in your area you can browse in.

I did look for a retailer but no one demos 85" ones. As for the brightness, it's always dark in my basement .

 

[Earthshine]

OLED all day, every day. Assuming your primary use case is gaming then IQ is king imo. Why would you want to see more of a lower quality image?

I don't agree. Even the high end of TCL and Hisense tv's are rivaling OLEDs, and in cases beating OLEDs in several picture quality aspects. Black levels? Okay. But I'm not sure how much darker a person needs things though. When there's a black screen on my TCL QM8K I can't even tell the tv is on. Viewing angles are also fine and I see no image degradation from any of my three seating positions. Imo, why buy a smaller tv for a higer price when there is barely much of a difference.

There's also more to it all though than just OLED vs other tech. A person has to look at both the manufacturer and model numbers. Most people will see LG, Samsung, or Sony and think just becase they have one of those, that it's a great tv. Average tv customer doens't know that for example, a higher end TCL will crush all lower end models from the other guys and compete toe to toe with their higher ends for a significantly lower price. 75" TCL QM8K is $1500 right now and it can easily go head to head with an LG G4.

As far as 85". Depends on your seating position. I am 8.5 feet from my 75" and I believe an 85" would be too big for gaming due to needing to move my head around too much.

 

[Minox]

I would not get the 85" simply because of its unwieldy size. Can you imagine what a pain it must be to move it? Not to mention how far away you'd have to sit up comfortably look at content.

 

[wamble]

It's all about viewing distance. Too big can be too big if you are close enough to it. I once bought a 40-inch TV (which I still have) for desktop monitor duties at regular desktop viewing distances. It was too big for that. Big mistake (literally).

Then again I also have concerns about OLED longevity and burn-in, which is why I always tend to prefer regular displays, despite OLED's blacker blacks, etc. I even preferred the updated non-OLED Vita to the original OLED Vita display, which almost everyone prefers instead.

 

[JayPea]

I don't agree. Even the high end of TCL and Hisense tv's are rivaling OLEDs, and in cases beating OLEDs in several picture quality aspects. Black levels? Okay. But I'm not sure how much darker a person needs things though. When there's a black screen on my TCL QM8K I can't even tell the tv is on. Viewing angles are also fine and I see no image degradation from any of my three seating positions. Imo, why buy a smaller tv for a higer price when there is barely much of a difference.

There's also more to it all though than just OLED vs other tech. A person has to look at both the manufacturer and model numbers. Most people will see LG, Samsung, or Sony and think just becase they have one of those, that it's a great tv. Average tv customer doens't know that for example, a higher end TCL will crush all lower end models from the other guys and compete toe to toe with their higher ends for a significantly lower price. 75" TCL QM8K is $1500 right now and it can easily go head to head with an LG G4.

As far as 85". Depends on your seating position. I am 8.5 feet from my 75" and I believe an 85" would be too big for gaming due to needing to move my head around too much.

And that's fair, for you. I've seen those xLED screens alongside OLED panels, side by side, in a show room and I think you're wrong. Which is equally fair, for me. OP is gonna have to do the same, somehow, to compare as this proves it's subjective.

 

[hippy dave]

CRT

 

[yankii]

CRT

People want insane amounts of money for them here, so no.

 

[MFDC12]

The big factor on size is realistically how far you sit away from your tv. The closer you are the smaller you should get. https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-size/size-to-distance-relationship

In fact, highly just recommend comparing tvs on rtings anyways. Not every OLED is equal, even within LG’s (the typical gold standard brand) own offerings.

IMO oled shines best with 4k Blu-ray with Dolby vision / hdr10, either via disc or remux, you get massively diminishing returns on it with streaming services video and gaming, even with HDR, in which case honestly save your money and get a decent mini-led.

 

[Earthshine]

IMO oled shines best with 4k Blu-ray with Dolby vision / hdr10, either via disc or remux, you get massively diminishing returns on it with streaming services video and gaming, even with HDR, in which case honestly save your money and get a decent mini-led.

The HDR formats shine best on other tech. Most OLEDs out there are significantly dimmer in the brightness and specular highlight department than non-oleds... which is the main draw for DV, HDR10(+), etc. My daughter has an LG G4 and my TCL QM8K completely blows it away in Dolby Vision and other HDR formats.

And that's fair, for you. I've seen those xLED screens alongside OLED panels, side by side, in a show room and I think you're wrong. Which is equally fair, for me. OP is gonna have to do the same, somehow, to compare as this proves it's subjective.

It's okay to disagree, but there is plenty of evidence to support my claims. I'm not sure which points you are disagree with. Care to elaborate? The blacks are so black on my tv I cant tell if it's on or off on a full black screen so there's really no disputing that. Viewing angles are also perfectly fine. Sure, people can compare to an oled from extreme viewing angles, and sure, in those cases the oleds win. But who watches their tv sitting at 180-190 degree angles? And higher end models from the likes of TCL and Hisense will absolutely crush lower end models from the big names. That is a fact. Oled also has absolutely horrible judder for 24p content. Worse than probably any non-oled out there. Again, it's fine to disagree, but I'm not sure exactly what points you're disagreeing with. Oleds win in some areas, but absouley not all. And in the ones they do win, it's pretty darn close and absolutely not a $2+ grand difference in PQ.

 

[yankii]

Update: I ended up going with a 32" QD-OLED monitor because I didn't want the TV to bastardize the image coming from my Switch, which many "smart" TVs these days are wont to do.

I say this after driving 3 hours to a store with tons of TVs I could demo and not finding a single one which just let my shit through unmolested.

 

[yankii]

Frustrating update: It looks like manufacturers these days are allergic to integer scaling, so I had to return my 4K QD-OLED monitor too.

Switch fans have it rough.

 

[Skv0ra]

My 2018 Sony 48" (LED, but full dimming) took a crap couple weeks ago and I'm sorta in the same boat - all modern offerings are becoming worse and worse, in ways. I don't want to lose features by getting a better sized TV. I don't want to pay more for a bigger size I just don't bloody need....