Trump's latest speech about Antifa taking down/vandalizing statues

[hobbledehoy899]

There really shouldn't be Confederate material in public areas, we need to move past that stain on our history.

I say the same thing about QWERTY, but here we are.

 

[The Catboy]

I say the same thing about QWERTY, but here we are.

I'mma gonna cut ya.

I cut myself short there and forgot to add my note on Trump's speech. As per the norm, his speech was a staggering mess where he spent a good amount of time attacking the media and riding the fence so hard that I am pretty his legs are chafing.

 

[hobbledehoy899]

I'mma gonna cut ya.

On my political edge?

I cut myself

Don't do it!

 

[Veho]

I say the same thing about QWERTY, but here we are.

QWERTY is the worst keyboard layout, except for all the others.

 

[hobbledehoy899]

QWERTY is the worst keyboard layout, except for all the others.

Nice QWERTY supremacist we've got here!

 

[Viri]

Actually I'd say Trump has the Mainstream Media to thank for his election

Yuh, I agree. He manipulated the media pretty damn well, and got billions in free advertisement for his campaign.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/09/donald-trump-birther-obama-press-conference
My personal favorite time he fucked with the media, that was some funny shit.

 

[CallmeBerto]

I just love the fact that he pretended not to know who the "alt-right" is.

While I agreed with most of he said that part really got to me.

 

[HaloEliteLegend]

Well, my stance on this is pretty simple. Move it to a museum, but don't vandalize it, it's history now. If you would've done this immediately after the Civil War like people did with Nazi imagery in Germany, I wouldn't have considered it vandalism, but symbolism. But the Civil War happened over 150 years ago. I think we're beyond the point of symbolism or "retribution by the victors." It's just vandalism now. Preserve it, then put it in a museum where it belongs.

 

[the_randomizer]

Both groups are wrong, and both supremacists and Nazi groups are dead wrong. Violence begets violence, throwing incendiary devices, and running people over, destroying properties labels you as a troglodytic douche. There, I said it, I said how I feel about these people rioting. Come on, you neanderthals, I don't care if people voice their anger, etc, but by being violent, you're part of the problem. Grow a pair and demonstrate by not being violent idiots.

/End unpopular opinion

 

[Joe88]

I just love the fact that he pretended not to know who the "alt-right" is.

Considering it was something the liberal msm made up and pushed relentlessly during the 2016 election cycle.
The first huge spike happened right after trump won the rnc nomination

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Considering it was something the liberal msm made up and pushed relentlessly during the 2016 election cycle.
The first huge spike happened right after trump won the rnc nomination

Yeah, I seem to recall a lot of vandalism and violence from the then-unmonikered alt-right around that time, too

But it would make too much sense if that caused the trend spike

 

[CallmeBerto]

Considering it was something the liberal msm made up and pushed relentlessly during the 2016 election cycle.
The first huge spike happened right after trump won the rnc nomination

Interesting I also blame Milo for giving them legitimately .

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Well, my stance on this is pretty simple. Move it to a museum, but don't vandalize it, it's history now. If you would've done this immediately after the Civil War like people did with Nazi imagery in Germany, I wouldn't have considered it vandalism, but symbolism. But the Civil War happened over 150 years ago. I think we're beyond the point of symbolism or "retribution by the victors." It's just vandalism now. Preserve it, then put it in a museum where it belongs.

I can agree with this.

However I feel this may be a bit of a slippy slope.

G Washington was a slave owner. Should his statues be moved? Some on the left want to rename Washington State for this same reason.

Also should blacks pay for this via their tax dollars considering he was a slave owner? What about Lincoln?

I'm just not sure where to draw the line.

 

[Viri]

Considering it was something the liberal msm made up

I thought Hillary first made the term popular in a speech? The same speech the guy yelled "Pepe" in.

 

[HaloEliteLegend]

I can agree with this.

However I feel this may be a bit of a slippy slope.

G Washington was a slave owner. Should his statues be moved? Some on the left want to rename Washington State for this same reason.

Also should blacks pay for this via their tax dollars considering he was a slave owner? What about Lincoln?

I'm just not sure where to draw the line.

My thinking on Confederate statues is that the confederacy actively fought to undermine the US. They were an enemy of the United States, therefore it's fine if the statues are moved to a museum. Meanwhile, George Washington was one of the founders of our nation, and a national hero who fought for us in the Revolutionary War. I draw the line at, "Is this an enemy of the US?" not "Did this person hold slaves?". When you celebrate George Washington, you're celebrating him as the founder of America, or the first president, not as a slaveholder. When you celebrate Robert E. Lee, you celebrate him as someone who fought against the US government to secede and divide our nation. The litmus test, I suppose, is this: "When this person is celebrated, what are they celebrated for?" No one associates George Washington with slavery, and nobody celebrates him for being a slaveowner, so his statues and namesakes should not be removed.

As for the tax thing, we're all one American body, and I think it would be absolutely absurd to divide the allocation of tax dollars based on race. If we're going to see past race, we can't keep seeing race. You get what I mean?

 

[bobbytomorow]

I thought Hillary first made the term popular in a speech? The same speech the guy yelled "Pepe" in.

Yes that Hillary speech is definitely what popularized "alt-right" in the mainstream I remember that was all the news was talking about right after that speech, like an explosion of interest

 

[Joe88]

I thought Hillary first made the term popular in a speech? The same speech the guy yelled "Pepe" in.

The pepe thing happened a few weeks later in late aug, and then hillary made a whole anti pepe alt right page on her site around the 2nd week of sept

 

[Abcdfv]

I just love the fact that he pretended not to know who the "alt-right" is.

While I agreed with most of he said that part really got to me.

They used to be called the tea party movement or something like that, alt-right is new.

 

[ThisIsDaAccount]

I think it's worth mentioning that most of Trump's CEO buddies had a call and agreed to leave his advisory councils after his remarks.

 

[Joe88]

A bust of abraham lincoln was just vandalized by setting it on fire
http://chicago.suntimes.com/chicago-politics/674297/

The lincoln memorial was also vandalized a few days ago with someone spray painting "fuck law" on one of the columns
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40942428

 

[the_randomizer]

A bust of abraham lincoln was just vandalized by setting it on fire
http://chicago.suntimes.com/chicago-politics/674297/

The lincoln memorial was also vandalized a few days ago with someone spray painting "fuck law" on one of the columns
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40942428

That's what happens when knuckle dragging dickweeds get butthurt and offended at something they don't agree with.


Fucking douchebags, these groups are, I don't care what party they belong to, I only care that they have to try to shove their extremist views down anyone's throats; extremism in any spectrum is always bad.