The situation in Ukraine...

[AncientBoi]

Putin should feed it own people first. What does Russia have expect oil and gas? has it done any thing good technology wise or science wise in the last 30 years for the world?

Putin is a terrorist.

Just have the russians eat pinto beans. then they will have all the GAS they want. Sheesh

 

[the_randomizer]

Putin is a terrorist POS and as such, should burn in hell for treating people like garbage.

 

[pustal]

That oil and gas isn't going to last long when we switch to electric cars.

You still have to feed the electrical grid. Russia convinced Germany to give up on nuclear to become dependent on fossil again. Renewals are the future, yes, but the present is still fossil, unfortunately.

https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/germanys-dependence-imported-fossil-fuels

That has been a powerful Putin card on his hand.

 

[Hanafuda]

 

[pustal]

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Well yeah, no American civilian needs an AR-15. They live still in a democratic country and the US has the greatest military power in the world. They are oppressed by the government in their own heads. Things might change in 3 years with an orange Putin fan that doesn't recognize a democratic system and may have in place his minions to overturn an election if needed. I doubt that the American citizen will ever have to worry about the American military but looney militias like the Proud Boys and friends with AR-15 or whatever military grade overblow equipment they crave. And that's what Putin wants, to start a civil war in the US.

As for Ukraine, they are, like they've been in 2014 fighting back one of the biggest military power in the world beyond their military forces, having the citizens to take matters in their own hands.

I think it's easy to see the difference, so I'm gonna assume this is wilful ignorance.

 

[Hanafuda]

Well yeah, no American civilian needs an AR-15. They live still in a democratic country and the US has the greatest military power in the world. They are oppressed by the government in their own heads. Things might change in 3 years with an orange Putin fan that doesn't recognize a democratic system and may have in place his minions to overturn an election if needed. I doubt that the American citizen will ever have to worry about the American military but looney militias like the Proud Boys and friends with AR-15 or whatever military grade overblow equipment they crave. And that's what Putin wants, to start a civil war in the US.

As for Ukraine, they are, like they've been in 2014 fighting back one of the biggest military power in the world beyond their military forces, having the citizens to take matters in their own hands.

I think it's easy to see the difference, so I'm gonna assume this is wilful ignorance.

Blah blah. That tweet didn't say anything about "American civilian" and considering the recent behavior of the Canadian government towards peaceful protesters (whose cause I do not support, but whose right to protest I do support), I'm not so sure the "we're safe here in democracy-land" is such a great argument anymore.

There is nowhere in the world where shit cant hit the fan someday, or government can't become unable to govern.

 

[linuxares]

Blah blah. That tweet didn't say anything about "American civilian" and considering the recent behavior of the Canadian government towards peaceful protesters (whose cause I do not support, but whose right to protest I do support), I'm not so sure the "we're safe here in democracy-land" is such a great argument anymore.

There is nowhere in the world where shit cant hit the fan someday, or government can't become unable to govern.

It's a bit different....
No need for US gun propaganda in this thread.

 

[Hanafuda]

It's a bit different....
No need for US gun propaganda in this thread.

The only thing different is the current era. War happened in North America in the past, will happen again in the future.

Self-defense and civil defense of one's sovereign nation are human rights. And if you are out to disarm a civilian populace, it's because you want to deprive those rights, in perpetuity. That's all I have to say about it. All that needs to be said.

 

[pustal]

Blah blah. That tweet didn't say anything about "American civilian" and considering the recent behavior of the Canadian government towards peaceful protesters (whose cause I do not support, but whose right to protest I do support), I'm not so sure the "we're safe here in democracy-land" is such a great argument anymore.

There is nowhere in the world where shit cant hit the fan someday, or government can't become unable to govern.

Childishly saying "blah blah" from who is being a propaganda mouthpiece is rich.

That tweet is referencing the easy access of this weapon that has been popularly used in mass shootings in the US. The tweet and article dates to the rebuilding of the Newtown school to replace the one that 4 years earlier served as grounds for the Sandy Hook massacre, that was perpetrated with an AR-15 variant.

AR-15's fight foreign agressores in Ukraine and kill schoolchildren in the US. They are tools of survival in Ukraine at the moment, they are big and dangerous toys in the US.

Canadian blockaders are fine and healthy. The last thing Canada needs is to arm them with military grade weapons for a second north-american insurrection this decade, fueled by Putin's divisional narrative.

AR-15s or other military grade weapons in the hand of insurrectionists is the quickest way to stop a democratic government from governing, that's why the Ukrainian government stopped working in Donetsk.

 

[pustal]

The only thing different is the current era. War happened in North America in the past, will happen again in the future.

Self-defense and civil defense of one's sovereign nation are human rights. And if you are out to disarm a civilian populace, it's because you want to deprive those rights, in perpetuity. That's all I have to say about it. All that needs to be said.

How you tell someone you never read the Universal Declaration of Human Rights without telling him you never read the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

There is no human right declared for the right to bear arms, that's a US invention, much less the right for civil militarization nor formation of militias.

Democratic states bear the responsability of safety. Military weapons on civil hands only work to protect the state if you have something in the lines of Switzerland where everyone is highly trained and evaluated to bear arms. Countries like the US where the closest thing many have to gun education is YouTube videos and Facebook propaganda is a recipe for disaster that's been proved over and over again. How much more dead children do you need to justify having big toys?

The problem with Ukraine is that the state is overwhelmed to keep defense and security up alone. With the kind of military budget the US has, that won't happen. Arming US citizens with AR-15 is feeding anarchy, and asking for more January insurrections and massacres.

 

[djpannda]

Trump realizing he can’t publicly admit to being Putin lapdog



3.2.1.0 - waiting for Conservative shills to turn coat and praise Ukraine .. ok it’s already stated

 

[SG854]

They need to take out Putin. He's been nothing but trouble. From him meddling in U.S. elections, Russian bots, to Ukraine. Take him out and replace him.

 

[pustal]

Trump realizing he can’t publicly admit to being Putin lapdog



3.2.1.0 - waiting for Conservative shills to turn coat and praise Ukraine .. ok it’s already stated

Well good. If shilling, at least don't shill supporting a war crime and a war criminal.

 

[BitMasterPlus]

If you don't want an AR-15, fine, but you ain't taking mine away. We have the 2nd amendment for a reason, just in case our government gets too powerful and controlling, the citizens need to fight back, but I digress, this isn't the topic for that now.

 

[djpannda]

If you don't want an AR-15, fine, but you ain't taking mine away. We have the 2nd amendment for a reason, just in case our government gets too powerful and controlling, the citizens need to fight back, but I digress, this isn't the topic for that now.

Cool story…… but how does that relate to Russian War Crime in Ukraine

 

[pustal]

If you don't want an AR-15, fine, but you ain't taking mine away. We have the 2nd amendment for a reason, just in case our government gets too powerful and controlling, the citizens need to fight back, but I digress, this isn't the topic for that now.

You're founding fathers didn't thought of the possibility of the government and the majority having to take up with the wackos with the super guns. Nor that military grade weapons would be advanced to the point they are now and kill so many people in the wrong hands. I'm sure they'd put a provision for it if they did. Same for nuclear weapons. Your government has the power to nuke its own people if it goes insane, should the average Joe be able to have a nuke in its backyard?

It baffles me how the US right appeals for patriotism while appealing for their own government fear (not to mention the 'alt' version of it that appeals to undermine it entirely).

Cool story…… but how does that relate to Russian War Crime in Ukraine

He is answering to me, answering to Hanafunda that compared the need of Ukranian volunteer civilians needs for military grade weapons with the potential need for the average US citizen to have military grade weapons at home. It derailed from there, he just didn't tagged me, maybe wishing I wouldn't see, dunno. You have to expect any conversation regarding politics to derail into the American black and white views at some point. No offense to the conscious US readers of this post.

 

[BitMasterPlus]

You're founding fathers didn't thought of the possibility of the government and the majority having to take up with the wackos with the super guns. Nor that military grade weapons would be advanced to the point they are now and kill so many people in the wrong hands. I'm sure they'd put a provision for it if they did. Same for nuclear weapons. Your government has the power to nuke its own people if it goes insane, should the average Joe be able to have a nuke in its backyard?

It baffles me how the US right appeals for patriotism while appealing for their own government fear (not to mention the 'alt' version of it that appeals to undermine it entirely).

Well my good sir, as they say, I may not agree with your opinion but I will risk my life to defend it.

 

[djpannda]

Even if partially true, Russian poeple are really not liking the War.


Oh and several hundred more arrested for protesting (100%true )

 

[BitMasterPlus]

This is the greatest shit show since....well, the past year has been a flurry of shit shows. It's gonna be interesting to see how Putin is gonna handle all of this. He is a smart, but vicious man. And just because I say he's smart doesn't mean I like or stick up for them. You can call your enemy smart and still hate them with your guts, you're just acknowledging how dangerous they are and won't take them lightly. I'm actually shocked how many people in his own country, and even military, are against his invasion of Ukraine. I can see why he did it, in defiance of NATO and the bases we were building in Ukraine. Does it make what he's doing right? No. This invasion shouldn't have happened, and despite him being an effective leader for the most part, I hope Putin gets his ass blasted away. Putin is many things. but stupid is not, but I also don't think even he expected the push back from his own people on the invasion.

It's gonna be and even more interesting next few days and weeks. I'm not gonna guess what's gonna happen next since I actually didn't think he was going to invade Ukraine, so I'll just sit back and wait and see like others are doing.

And I'm sure Biden has the plan and 4th dimensional chess moves to outsmart this insane tyrant! Let's go Brandon, get that dictator and put him in his place!

 

[Cylent1]

WORLD WAR III