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Discussion in 'The Edge of the Forum' started by Costello, Feb 26, 2019.
wow, that is dumb
Since we seem to be bringing some ancient memes, might as well post something from 2008
Happens to me if I check my notifications but then don't read the new posts.
Meh, quality games have bosses with at least 4 forms, just look at Kingdom Hearts II with Xemnas's 7 forms
Could this be taken the wrong way?
Somehow it sounds strange to me. ;p
Did I miss the joke? Oh...
I love KH's bosses. This is most likely a very unpopular opinion, but I loved the gummi ship thing in KH3, the hardest bosses to unlock the best gummi ships were the best.
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Took me a while to understand, do you mean hard?
Yeah, sorry about that. I'm silly sometimes.
I know, explaining a joke ruins it, but what was the joke?
That he found the first form of the boss hard and didn't even know there was an even harder 2nd form after that?
As in, you haven't seen anything yet if you found this hard?
I can be a little oblivious, I'm afraid.
I have this bad habit of editing things. I should learn to take my time and get it right the first time. I'm always too fast.
Correct yes, it's not a joke, joke. More of a relatable thing to chuckle at. Like how in Sekiro you're having trouble fighting a boss, then you find out there's a second form.
Oh, I know that.
Then there's also bosses where the first form is really freaking hard and then you're devastated that there's a second phase only to find out that it is actually a pushover.
I remember quite a few games where it's been like that.
"Oh no, I can't take another round after all I've been through."
"Wait, that's it? Hmm, that was kinda anticlimatic."
Not to mention, games that don't save after you defeat one form. So if there's even 2 forms or more, in a hard game you'd be retrying more than twice or so for sure.
Haven't gotten a chance to play 3 yet, but I love almost all bosses in Kingdom Hearts games except for a few like Vanitas in BBS (just BS taking next to no damage 99% of the time but Ventus with Aero ends the fight in like 15 seconds), Phantom in KH1 (too annoying having the timer distract you so you don't get insta-killed), Ruler of the Sky in 358/2 Days (annoying AF because you have to chase it midair and only takes damage on a specific part of it's body), Demyx in KH2 (just such un-fun mechanics in the fight like the water dolls he spawns) or Riku in Chain of Memories (without a good deck it's just a pain of a fight because you keep getting countered if you draw into value 6 or lower cards even when stacking them)! Generally it's only like 1 fight per game I don't enjoy, while I absolutely LOVE all the others!
As for Gummi ship, don't know if it's the same in KH3 as in KH2, but I loved both KH2's and KH1's (to slightly lesser extend because of lack of polish here and there) Gummi ship fights and getting to customize them into some huge destruction machines that could clear the entire screen of enemies in like a second if going all out
EDIT: Should make it clear, for Vanitas I'm talking about the secret superboss fight, not the story one, story one is a literal joke...
I never played the card one, just watched the movie thing in the PS4 collection. Is it worth playing? I also have a somewhat unpopular opinion about DDD, I absolutely loved it, maybe because it was the second game I played after BBS. There's so many good bosses I can't recall which ones were good. You'll love KH3, despite what people say. It's a decent KH game, just don't expect resolutions to questions and references made in the story thus far. They just throw it out and focus on Disney and then just get to the finale somehow. Gameplay wise it's great.
Oh if you liked the previous games gummi stuff, you'll really like this one. The only issue I feel you'd have is the customization of gummi ships. While you can create a beast of a ship, there's the material limit thing right? Defeating the hardest gummi boss gives you the best gummi ship, that is basically way above the max material limit so it just makes customization obsolete.
Chain of Memories is really good, but I HIGHLY suggest you play the GBA version, the PS2 version's 3D gameplay makes everything annoying AF in harder fights as it's a lot harder to position in a screen filled with enemies, especially if in some battles in Twilight Town (second last area in the game) where you are fighting 6-8 of those HUGE blob (ball) looking enemies at once along with a bunch smaller ones. Also, because of fewer animations, the GBA version plays more smoothly and faster, so you get through it considerably faster overall on top of it being faster allowing for more efficient farming for cards. Just give it a try and if by the second world you feel you don't like it, just drop it. The GBA version is the game that The World Ends With You borrows it's fight mechanics from so if you have played that and liked it, you will probably like CoM too!
As for DDD, I HATED the "Drop" mechanic forcing you to swap between characters to the point I used cheats to lock the bar in place, finished the story in one world with one character, THEN Dropped to the other to finish that story in the same world, having to constantly "Drop" mid-story was disorienting and just plain annoying AF and the main reason I consider DDD one of the worst KH games to date (Coded and Re:Coded are the only ones I consider worse but for other reasons). Also, pretty much a lack of endgame (like BBS had with superbosses and whatnot or stuff most Final Mix versions have) or at least a super-long and fun end-boss fight (like KH2's Xemnas which I've done close to 900 times because it's one of my favorite fights in a game period, not just KH ones) is what made me regret even buying it!
Depending on what blocks the game actually gives you, best stats for a ship don't always mean best ship For example, the starting ship in KH2 can be optimized well beyond what the "best" ship in the game actually offers!
Cool, I may give it a try then thanks.
Same, the drop mechanic was its weak point, but I'm the kind of person who easily adjusts to things and you can give me a mediocre game and I would still really enjoy it. I got used to the drop mechanic and managed to have a lot of fun. Though yeah, that makes sense.
True, but in KH3's case, the ship you get from the hardest boss is miles better in every way from customizable ships, it's just that, it's how it was made. You'll see when you play it.
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