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Hello,
I did not find a sure answer to my question on FAQ, I submit it to you:
You can play online without ever being banned if you have latest firmware / use original game / run normal mode switch / do not have auto RCM installed
Am I right ?
(Of course you can use jig / dongle and its microsd card to play .xci games offline)

I would think the answer to this is obvious.

Nintendo designed Horizon, and the switch. They designed the server back-end that manages your eShop purchases. They know if you purchased something legitimately off the eShop or not. They know what titles exist as cartridges, which ones dont, and what the unique ID is for each and every cartridge.

Nintendo has ample data, and has incorporated quite sweeping data analytics on the switch, sufficient to identify suspicious behavior very easily. Remember, it is not just what data your switch reports to Nintendo, but also which data it does not. (By this, this is what I mean: Suppose you are playing Splatoon 2 illegally. Nintendo knows you have been playing Splatoon 2. It know when you played it, and against whom you played. However, your switch is not reporting analytics about our copy of Splatoon 2, because it is pirated, and the TX OS mods flag that as data Ninty should not get to know. Ninty can see this and finger you right away.)

Asking for a ban-proof product that is designed to facilitate illegal use of licensed software on a platform loaded to the hilt with analytics collection software is just plain silly.

TX can only do its very best to discover what methods nintendo uses to detect that illegal use, and to try to fake valid responses as much as it can, but they can only guess at what Nintendo knows, or is capable of knowing. Nintendo will always have the upper hand of that game.

Be sensible and think about this rationally. Nintendo can and will dispense bans if they detect you running software you do not own, or detect you violating the terms of their end user license agreement. That is just how it is.
 
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I would think the answer to this is obvious.

Nintendo designed Horizon, and the switch. They designed the server back-end that manages your eShop purchases. They know if you purchased something legitimately off the eShop or not. They know what titles exist as cartridges, which ones dont, and what the unique ID is for each and every cartridge.

Nintendo has ample data, and has incorporated quite sweeping data analytics on the switch, sufficient to identify suspicious behavior very easily. Remember, it is not just what data your switch reports to Nintendo, but also which data it does not. (By this, this is what I mean: Suppose you are playing Splatoon 2 illegally. Nintendo knows you have been playing Splatoon 2. It know when you played it, and against whom you played. However, your switch is not reporting analytics about our copy of Splatoon 2, because it is pirated, and the TX OS mods flag that as data Ninty should not get to know. Ninty can see this and finger you right away.)

Asking for a ban-proof product that is designed to facilitate illegal use of licensed software on a platform loaded to the hilt with analytics collection software is just plain silly.

TX can only do its very best to discover what methods nintendo uses to detect that illegal use, and to try to fake valid responses as much as it can, but they can only guess at what Nintendo knows, or is capable of knowing. Nintendo will always have the upper hand of that game.

Be sensible and think about this rationally. Nintendo can and will dispense bans if they detect you running software you do not own, or detect you violating the terms of their end user license agreement. That is just how it is.

I own splatoon2 so if i launch my switch normaly with the latest firmware there is no way Nintendo can ban me because everything is OK (id, cartridge) unless they check the other games i've been played with sxpro....

(if i just use jig+dongle to play xci offline and never install autoRcm or watether homebrew/CFW)
 
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Can I reformat my Nintendo switch and still use the sx os pro? I want to use this switch strictly for backups not on my original Nintendo account. I don't want to get my original account banned.
 

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Can I reformat my Nintendo switch and still use the sx os pro? I want to use this switch strictly for backups not on my original Nintendo account. I don't want to get my original account banned.
mmmh... idk but I think if you're caught using illegal backup, they'll ban your console
not just your account ;)
 

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mmmh... idk but I think if you're caught using illegal backup, they'll ban your console
not just your account ;)
Quite probably he doesn't care about the console getting banned. It is the backups console after all.
But if his Nintendo account gets banned he will be losing the billions of dollars in digital content he owns.
 

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Quite probably he doesn't care about the console getting banned. It is the backups console after all.
But if his Nintendo account gets banned he will be losing the billions of dollars in digital content he owns.
thats making me think about it
since you paid for those digital games, wouldn't it be illegal to prevent you from redownloading them?
I mean, even if it's against ToU, you still paid for them, right?
 

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thats making me think about it
since you paid for those digital games, wouldn't it be illegal to prevent you from redownloading them?
I mean, even if it's against ToU, you still paid for them, right?

Right now, Nintendo basically has this mindset. But they can ban full CDN access on the grounds of exploiting it, and we're likely going to see a sweep on the CDN side of things in the near future or whenever they do the next major eShop maintenance. (Yes, they know people are exploiting it.)

In which case you wouldn't have legal standing because "I purchased and have right to X games" cannot be followed up by "I stole Y games along the way, I have a right to my content." Nintendo would have the receipts of what your cert was doing, and taking them to court would be a swift victory for Nintendo.
 

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Hi
I just got my SX OX pro, and it is working great...
I install the CFW and everything is running well.
however I have notice an issue on my switch that it wasn't there before.
(by the way ver. 5.1.0)

After charging to 100% and turning it off (completely, not sleepmode) for the night, not docked.
Next morning I take out the switch from my portable case, and I felt that is it warm (not in a warning hot level)
I check the equipment and it completely OFF also fan is OFF.
I but the dongle to startup the switch with CFW SX OX.
And I notice that now a Im at 45% of battery.

So, Im loosing power just shutoff.
I don't know what is is the issue... is it a battery issue, or CPU is running on the back something like CMOS?

any suggestions?
 
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Hi
I just got my SX OX pro, and it is working great...
I install the CFW and everything is running well.
however I have notice an issue on my switch that it wasn't there before.
(by the way ver. 5.1.0)

After charging to 100% and turning it off (completely, not sleepmode) for the night.
Next morning I take out the switch from my portable case, and I felt that is it warm (not in a warning hot level)
I check the equipment and it completely OFF also fan is OFF.
I but the dongle ad startup the switch with CFW SX OX.
And I notice that now a Im at 45% of battery.

So, Im loosing power just shutoff.
I don't know what is is the issue... is it a battery issue, or CPU is running on the back something like CMOS?

any suggestions?
It was still in RCM mode and you didn't shut it down completely.
You can test it being turned off by plugging it in your pc and then seeing if RCM mode is detected in tegraRCMgui. If it's not detected then it is completely turned off and you can put it in the case you have for it
 
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It was still in RCM mode and you didn't shut it down completely.
You can test it being turned off by plugging it in your pc and then seeing if RCM mode is detected in tegraRCMgui. If it's not detected then it is completely turned off and you can put it in the case you have for it

I will check that as you mention.

So, if it is on Auto RFM mode, the system is still working on the back ground?
I will try to fully charge, uninstall the auto RCM mode and check.

Thanks for the intel
 
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I will check that as you mention.

So, if it is on Auto RFC mode, the system is still working on the back ground?
I will try to fully charge, uninstall the auto RFC mode and check.

Thanks for the intel
yeah but you don't have to uninstall autorcm. Just make sure to hold it just to be safe 15 seconds instead of the usual 12 and when you have done that, plug it in the pc and launch tegrarcmgui. If that doesn't detect the switch it is completely turned off but if it does repeat by holding down the power button 15 seconds till it is turned off
 
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yeah but you don't have to uninstall autorcm. Just make sure to hold it just to be safe 15 seconds instead of the usual 12 and when you have done that, plug it in the pc and launch tegrarcmgui. If that doesn't detect the switch it is completely turned off but if it does repeat by holding down the power button 15 seconds till it is turned off

Thanks for the point.
I will do check that (15sec button hold), because i do like the autoRCM mode, less steps, less gear-up.

I cant launched tegrarcmgui, i have a stupid MAC, so i have to use the web site
https://atlas44.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/web-fusee-launcher/index.html

But it should be able to detect if it is still on.
Once i comeback from work, and kick my wife to bed i will try this..
Cheers
 

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You can also use your phone tho

Also i have a stupid iphone....
I had a "apple" phase and i still have all this stuff...
my phone a 6pluss like 4 years old... maybe it is time to upgrade....
fuck...i will have to ask my wife... and she will say, you want games of a phone.... to complicated...
 

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You have an SX Pro anyway, no need to mess with the phone.

Hold the power button for 15 seconds as instructed and it will definitely be turned off.
 
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