Hardware System impressions

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Ya. everyone i have talked too likes the original art of oot better tho lol
so nintendo is liberating zelda but is it the same with starfox? and does anyone think they would bring back ssb?


also, since it is clear that 3ds can run n64 games, what if virtual console sold n64 like the wii
and what if all virtual content from the wii could be transfered to the 3ds?
thoughts?
 
Just thought I'd chime in with more news as today has been rather eventful. Seems the 3DS test model arrived WAAAAAY ahead of schedule, thanks to the manager of my local calling in a few less than legal favours from what I've heard (I don't care, I'm a pirate so it's not like I can take the moral high ground), so I've been messing around with it most of the afternoon with my lady companion. Regretably I wasn't allowed to keep it afterwards, nor would the manager let it out of his sight as it's obviously A) very expensive and B) strictly for staff use only, I wasn't even supposed to know it was there. But I did. So here's the official info from the man who has held the system in his hands, and believe me, it's good news.

- The 3D effects DO NOT CAUSE HEADACHES. There, that's the final word. Thanks to my mother throwing a plate at my head a few years ago, my vision blurs thanks to damage to my right eye. Fast moving ceramics tend to do that to your eyeballs. And even I didn't get a headache from playing in full 3D for several hours, even when things got busy on screen. So enough speculation, there is NO PROBLEM. It's just people whining to get attention in what I've come to call 'Jack Thompson Syndrome'. Maybe it genuinely affects a few people but I was fine. No problems, and it feels so much better to not have to wear those glasses.

- Yes, I've played Zelda. Trust me, it'll be worth the wait. The graphics are vastly improved, the 3D effects are woven in amazingly well, and as my lady friend said, the Kokiri Forest has never looked better, the rays of light bursting through the trees is really quite something. Bear in mind this way only a demo build so final product may differ, but from what I played it felt like a whole new game, like I couldn't wait to see how the Zora's Domain looked now, whether Zelda's face is still triangular, etc. The music is a little better but with no truly noticable upgrades, just clearer. The placement of the analogue stick makes it much easier to play than the N64 version, it just feels right in your hands, it's difficult to explain. The whole thing just works. It's gonna be an essential purchase, trust me.

- Also got my hands on Nintendogs+Cats. I was actually rather impressed by how much it's been upgraded from the original. The animals look significantly better, naturally, but they also seem to behave in a much more realistic way. Which fortunately doesn't mean they howl at traffic then pinch one off in your slippers. The face recognition system works pretty well, and the 3D effects once again caused no discomfort, although they didn't truly add a whole lot to most of the experience. They only really shined for me when I took the dog for a walk. But it does retain that endearing quality of the original, and to be honest I think the novelty value would hold a fair bit longer this time since the animals have much better personalities, more diversity, they just feel a lot more natural.

- The cameras are still sucky quality, but messing about with them is good fun. Regretably I didn't get a chance to test out the AR games, but the 3D photo facility was fun for a laugh.

- There was a demo build of Kid Icarus available, and while I only got a few minutes with it I did enjoy it. My only criticism is that Pit is a bit too close to the camera, perhaps. Although with it being a demo build it's possible this can be altered in the final release. It wasn't a major problem though. The 3D greatly improves this one, especially the flying sections. It gets pretty busy on screen at times and the system showed no signs of strain, nor did the 3D F up at any point, even with me lurching about trying to make it F up just to see what the system can do. Ground sections weren't quite as exciting IMHO but certainly enjoyable. Of course this is based on a five minute piss about with it rather than an in-depth review session.

So there you have it. Probably the first Temper to get his hands on this new toy. Worth waiting for. The system is indeed a touch heavier IMHO, but not to the point of discomfort or any ill effects on your gaming skills. Everything just comes together so seamlessly. It's truly a masterpiece of modern design. It feels very natural to play, since it's so similar in design to my DS Lite. Feels like a HUGE upgrade. Like the actual hardware never really changed, with the exception of the analogue stick, which believe me is a welcome addition and very easy to adjust to. They're recieving new demo cartridges within the next few days with any luck, so hopefully I'll get some time with Resident Evil, Starfox, Pilotwings, etc.

Incidentally, you never heard this from me, OK? The manager is risking his ass for this publicity. He could easily get the sack for letting me play around with it. So...yeah. Keep it under your hat for the time being. No posting it elsewhere. It's just for us here on the 'temp for now, at least until the demo units are more widely available so the info doesn't break any street dates or something. Hope the info's helpful, will chime in again when I know more.

And yes, the girl's cute. I know you're just dying to ask.

Toodles.

Blaze.
 
You're amazing Blaze, you lucky bastard. That's amazing news. OoT should be awesome, and it's nice to put the headaches bullcrap to rest.
 
Eerpow said:
pachura said:
machomuu said:
It's a remake, you're supposed to compare it to the original.

What I meant:
Someone who played the original on N64 might perceive the 3DS version as super totally great because it has been improved compared to the original. However, in terms of graphics, it might still be behind other premium 3DS titles as SSFIV or Kid Icarus - so, slightly disappointing for people who have never played it.

This was actually the impression of the guy mentioned here.

Yes, but remember that OOT isn't finished just like Mario Kart and other Nintendo games.
The best graphics I've seen so far are from RE Mercenaries.
And regarding the Amsterdam guy impressions. I would like to see the PSP pull off this:
The PSP can pull it if they made it for it, but 3DS have some things the PSP don't have (obviously, the PSP is from the same generation as DS, it's unfair to compare and would be a joke if the PSP could put better graphics than the 3DS, right?), like better shaders and textures. Still, it's amazing to see what they achieved on it with games like GoW, MG:Peace Walker, Crisis Core, etc.

@Blaze

You can't say the 3D don't cause dizzyness, it varies from people to people. You'll see guys throwing up with the console and others like nothing happened to them. The problem on your eye have nothing to do with this, except you could have difficult to actually see the effect properly.

The same happens on the 3D on movies, some people have problems, other don't.
 
Crisis Core looked terrible outside FMV, frankly. Jaggies. Jaggies everywhere.

Also what's the analog pad feel like, Blaze? What's it made out of, plastic or rubber? They kept changing it. And it's white, right?
 
Midna said:
Crisis Core looked terrible outside FMV, frankly. Jaggies. Jaggies everywhere.

Also what's the analog pad feel like, Blaze? What's it made out of, plastic or rubber? They kept changing it. And it's white, right?
Yeah, kinda, the console doesn't have AA at all, but it's better than a lot of games on PSP. Anyway, the other two impressed me more on graphics.

EDIT: Nintendo said the touch would be multi-touch this time, didn't they?
 
the thing i hate about video games is still in the 3ds
jaggies!!! (thanks to midna for the correction)
but still i don't care and can't wait for zelda/kh/kid icarus
 
it couldnt be too hard to make a stylus with a small soft rubber tip

example of capacitive stylus
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aminemaster said:
the thing i hate about video games is still in the 3ds
why are these pixels getting out of their place i always notice it exept having a straight line you see that the pixels waver
but still i don't care and can't wait for zelda/kh/kid icarus
That's called a jaggy, mate.
 
Blaze163 said:
Just thought I'd chime in with more news as today has been rather eventful. Seems the 3DS test model arrived WAAAAAY ahead of schedule, thanks to the manager of my local calling in a few less than legal favours from what I've heard (I don't care, I'm a pirate so it's not like I can take the moral high ground), so I've been messing around with it most of the afternoon with my lady companion. Regretably I wasn't allowed to keep it afterwards, nor would the manager let it out of his sight as it's obviously A) very expensive and B) strictly for staff use only, I wasn't even supposed to know it was there. But I did. So here's the official info from the man who has held the system in his hands, and believe me, it's good news.

- The 3D effects DO NOT CAUSE HEADACHES. There, that's the final word. Thanks to my mother throwing a plate at my head a few years ago, my vision blurs thanks to damage to my right eye. Fast moving ceramics tend to do that to your eyeballs. And even I didn't get a headache from playing in full 3D for several hours, even when things got busy on screen. So enough speculation, there is NO PROBLEM. It's just people whining to get attention in what I've come to call 'Jack Thompson Syndrome'. Maybe it genuinely affects a few people but I was fine. No problems, and it feels so much better to not have to wear those glasses.

- Yes, I've played Zelda. Trust me, it'll be worth the wait. The graphics are vastly improved, the 3D effects are woven in amazingly well, and as my lady friend said, the Kokiri Forest has never looked better, the rays of light bursting through the trees is really quite something. Bear in mind this way only a demo build so final product may differ, but from what I played it felt like a whole new game, like I couldn't wait to see how the Zora's Domain looked now, whether Zelda's face is still triangular, etc. The music is a little better but with no truly noticable upgrades, just clearer. The placement of the analogue stick makes it much easier to play than the N64 version, it just feels right in your hands, it's difficult to explain. The whole thing just works. It's gonna be an essential purchase, trust me.

- Also got my hands on Nintendogs+Cats. I was actually rather impressed by how much it's been upgraded from the original. The animals look significantly better, naturally, but they also seem to behave in a much more realistic way. Which fortunately doesn't mean they howl at traffic then pinch one off in your slippers. The face recognition system works pretty well, and the 3D effects once again caused no discomfort, although they didn't truly add a whole lot to most of the experience. They only really shined for me when I took the dog for a walk. But it does retain that endearing quality of the original, and to be honest I think the novelty value would hold a fair bit longer this time since the animals have much better personalities, more diversity, they just feel a lot more natural.

- The cameras are still sucky quality, but messing about with them is good fun. Regretably I didn't get a chance to test out the AR games, but the 3D photo facility was fun for a laugh.

- There was a demo build of Kid Icarus available, and while I only got a few minutes with it I did enjoy it. My only criticism is that Pit is a bit too close to the camera, perhaps. Although with it being a demo build it's possible this can be altered in the final release. It wasn't a major problem though. The 3D greatly improves this one, especially the flying sections. It gets pretty busy on screen at times and the system showed no signs of strain, nor did the 3D F up at any point, even with me lurching about trying to make it F up just to see what the system can do. Ground sections weren't quite as exciting IMHO but certainly enjoyable. Of course this is based on a five minute piss about with it rather than an in-depth review session.

So there you have it. Probably the first Temper to get his hands on this new toy. Worth waiting for. The system is indeed a touch heavier IMHO, but not to the point of discomfort or any ill effects on your gaming skills. Everything just comes together so seamlessly. It's truly a masterpiece of modern design. It feels very natural to play, since it's so similar in design to my DS Lite. Feels like a HUGE upgrade. Like the actual hardware never really changed, with the exception of the analogue stick, which believe me is a welcome addition and very easy to adjust to. They're recieving new demo cartridges within the next few days with any luck, so hopefully I'll get some time with Resident Evil, Starfox, Pilotwings, etc.

Incidentally, you never heard this from me, OK? The manager is risking his ass for this publicity. He could easily get the sack for letting me play around with it. So...yeah. Keep it under your hat for the time being. No posting it elsewhere. It's just for us here on the 'temp for now, at least until the demo units are more widely available so the info doesn't break any street dates or something. Hope the info's helpful, will chime in again when I know more.

And yes, the girl's cute. I know you're just dying to ask.

Toodles.

Blaze.
3 things to say
1.oh thank you now i'm not worried anymore about the 3ds and it's kinda perfect for my kind of games (bye bye psp2)
2.i hate you, you're lucky he just played with a 3ds
3.still should i get a ps3? they say that kh3 and another dive will be on ps3 and i am a huge kh fan and i won't be happy since i finish all the series
i know 3d will be on 3ds but still: 3ds or ps3 that's the question
 
Wow.
Finally, an impression by a Temper. The press tends to put the 3DS in an extremely positive light and I have no way of telling if they're biased or not. Zelda is a game that I'm definitely buying. You've increased my interest in Nintendogs + Cats. I do wish it had Augmented Reality, though. I'm not as worried about the placement of the analog stick, anymore. I was afraid that my hand might accidentally press the D-Pad because of where it is positioned. Would you be able to take a video of the 3DS running the aforementioned games.

Unless you're trolling.
 
by the way soulf why the hell are you in the banned group
i hope i can watch to love ru on the 3ds
the browser HAS TO GET FLASH PLAYER or that would be really bad
i like watching anime on my wii(huge lcd screen with that zoom) and videos with 3d that would be too nice
 
aminemaster said:
but whyare you still in the group while unbanned
or why can you speak while banned you and rockstar confuse me
I'm a hacker.
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QUOTE(aminemaster @ Feb 6 2011, 09:40 PM) the browser HAS TO GET FLASH PLAYER or that would be really bad
Agreed.
Flash would be great.
 

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