Super Smash Bros. mod "Project M" stops development

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Development on the popular Super Smash Bros. mod Project M has come to a screeching halt today, as the Project M team has officially announced that they will stop working on any further updates. The link for the files used to patch Super Smash Bros. Brawl in order to play the mod have also been removed from their site.

We realize that this will come as a shock to many of our fans. Please, forgive us. Again, it’s been an excruciating call to make, but it’s been made a bit easier by our satisfaction with the previous and final release, v3.6. We’ve spent six years polishing Project M, and rather than let it drag on through another several years of dwindling development and change-fatigue in the competitive circle, we’re going to consider our work complete.

They go on to say that they have other, new projects that they will be focusing on in the future.

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Me wanting to play it on my actual wii already implies that I have a "jailbroken" wii and don't want to use an emulator.
Thats fine that you prefer the actual console it was built for but you acted like it was the only way to play the game which isnt true. God forbid I gave an alternative.
 

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It would be interesting if these guys moved on to SSB4 and with total support from Nintendo. :D

Nintendo has NEVER admitted at being second best (even when they sometimes are) And when they are they C+D the thing that 1-up'd them. Every company does it.

God forbid a couple of enthusiasts can make something that can rival what a million dollar corporation can accomplish

If they had legal issues with Nintendo, why didn't they mentioned it? It makes no sense if that was the case because there would be no harm in doing so.

I still think they were C&D with a gag order.

Take your rape like a little bitch and tell no one you little insignificant fuck. And if you do I SWEAR TO GOD we'll fine your ass so much money you'll be put in jail = Gag Order. Most C&D letters in the gaming world have one usually. So that way customer loyalty will stay and the big bad corporation will never be the bad guy and the fan community is none the wiser. Can you imagine if the M devs said Nintendo shut us down? There would be lots of pissed off people. So to avoid that a gag order was implemented with the letter most likely. The tell tale sign is that the shut down was so quickly and the links are all gone. There's more going on than whats being said here.
 
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If its so obvious then why dont you do it?
Okay let me summarize it for you in hopefully not too vague for you sentences.
I have the PAL version of the game (surprising given my German Flag in the bottom left corner, right?) and this mod is just for the NTSC version. Which wouldn't be a problem on a emulator but I don't want to play it on a emulator which why I explicitly stated that "I wanted to play it on my actual Wii and waited for a PAL release". Since It's a unofficial mod of a console game you really don't need to tell anybody that their vanilla Wii won't cut it and that they would've needed to hack their console first. It's common sense.
What would've been helpful was if you suggested how to get this mod running on a PAL version of this game.
 

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Okay let me summarize it for you in hopefully not too vague for you sentences.
I have the PAL version of the game (surprising given my German Flag in the bottom left corner, right?) and this mod is just for the NTSC version. Which wouldn't be a problem on a emulator but I don't want to play it on a emulator which why I explicitly stated that "I wanted to play it on my actual Wii and waited for a PAL release". Since It's a unofficial mod of a console game you really don't need to tell anybody that their vanilla Wii won't cut it and that they would've needed to hack their console first. It's common sense.
What would've been helpful was if you suggested how to get this mod running on a PAL version of this game.
I admire your will to play this on the original system it was meant for and I'm aware of the mod being for NTSC. Instead of waiting for a solution for your PAL system playing on Dolphin would of been a much faster and possibly simpler answer. You can still use any controller you want and the emulator itself isnt demanding at all PC spec wise. I'm sorry if this isn't what you want to hear but an emulator is a better alternative than nothing at all.
 

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I know what happened, but I can't tell publicily (I already did on reddit, post removed by mod)
Recapping: Nintendo lawsuit risk
 

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That sucks. I know a lot of people enjoyed this mod. I personally dislike it, makes the game feel a lot less fun for me, but that's just personal opinion.
 

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Okay let me summarize it for you in hopefully not too vague for you sentences.
I have the PAL version of the game (surprising given my German Flag in the bottom left corner, right?) and this mod is just for the NTSC version. Which wouldn't be a problem on a emulator but I don't want to play it on a emulator which why I explicitly stated that "I wanted to play it on my actual Wii and waited for a PAL release". Since It's a unofficial mod of a console game you really don't need to tell anybody that their vanilla Wii won't cut it and that they would've needed to hack their console first. It's common sense.
What would've been helpful was if you suggested how to get this mod running on a PAL version of this game.

I doubt it's that easy. The PAL version might have programming differences under the hood.
If nothing else, a "complete" PAL edition of Project M means creating German and Italian translations for its content.

Edit: On second thought I don't recall NTSC copies having French and Spanish. Odd considering NOA did that for earlier Wii games.
 
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I doubt it's that easy. The PAL version might have programming differences under the hood.
If nothing else, a "complete" PAL edition of Project M means creating German and Italian translations for its content.

Edit: On second thought I don't recall NTSC copies having French and Spanish. Odd considering NOA did that for earlier Wii games.
Only differences between PAL and NTSC versions was text.
 

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Well this is very shocking news did it happen overnight? I mean a C&D letter for a mod? Really?

It uses more than just Nintendo characters. Characters that Nintendo doesn't have a license to and thus Nintendo can't "internally" scantion the mod. Better to C&D it before the other property owners sue the mod creators which would be a PR nightmare on steroids.

That's why Nintendo still ignores CTGP Newer SMBWii, because everything those mods use Nintendo 100% owns.

(Before anyone points to the Unity Bob-omb Mountain remake, I'm pretty sure the basis was on quality, because the other full game remake of SM64 still lives on and it's quality is what Nintendo would produce.)
 

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So I'm wondering if they ever really made that Project 64 mod, or if they only made the N64 skins for Brawl. If they really made that a mod I'll be sad as I could never really find it, and didn't want to take the time of dl'ing and installing all the crazy skins people made on their forums.
 

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This makes me wonder what the actual reason for Project M's cancellation actually is. If there was another new build being made, why did they cut development without finishing it?
From the sounds of (from reddit and posts from people close to the team) they were talking to someone well versed in the legal system and they found something that could get them in a lot of trouble, beyond C&D. Something that could get them straight out sued. So they stopped everything in hopes of distancing themselves enough so that can't be done to them by the time Nintendo or some other company with the legal ground finds out about the legal thing PMDev Team is afraid of. Even speculation as to what that might be was discouraged. That said, there was no official word from the team (that I know of) so that's all still just speculation. Still, if this is something that could adversely affect their livelihood, I completely understand and wish them the best of luck.
 
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