Stuck somewhere in the modmii tutorial. Dont know where exactly.

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  1. Bobba_fat
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    Hey guys,

    Will try to keep it short, and hope i get short answers and not alot of links to other guides. I have googled and this is my last resort. So thanks in advance.
    First is first, new to the wii softmod scene, so sorry bout that. And now here is my issue(s)

    And a *... I tried a couple of independent modding tuts, for example installing HBC (that worked) and then the latest cIOS that didnt work, so I was recommended to go via the modmii tutorial and at the same time it would write over my previous installs with this solution, since it does replace all those things I had (tried to) install before (I guess).
    So I didnt do any of the modmii install HBC solution because I already had that and letterbomb solution in place.

    So...

    The modmii installation worked, I guess. I had no trouble following the guide and everything shows up.
    However, when I try to load my games via usb loader from the wii Main screen, it just asks me: Please connect a USB drive. Then I press start. Screen shows quick WII, goes black screen, and then just goes back to main menu, and no games shows up.

    I installed the ios236
    Installed priiloader
    Installed the WAD

    Partitioned my harddrive to FAT32

    I used to wiibackup manager and transferred my backup games the proper way to my 2TB WD Elements.


    "For playing your backups off a USB hard drive, run the USB-Loader Setup feature from ModMii's Main Menu."
    (I dont really understand this perhaps? Is it on the wii main menu?)

    Anyways, I also attached some images, if that can give a better understanding.

    My version is 4.3 (Lastest)
    My HBC
    1.1.2
    IOS 58 v.24.32

    Any help will be much appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.
     

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  3. XFlak

    XFlak Wiitired but still kicking

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    Can you confirm all the wads installed successfully (if unsure, run a Syscheck and post results as instructed here: https://gbatemp.net/threads/posting-a-system-check.300279/ ) ?

    Do you have the USB hard drive plugged into port 0 (USB port nearest the edge)? Is your hard drive properly formatted as fat32? Is the hard drive compatible with the wii? To check, open the HBC and go to the options menu (by pressing 1 or 2) and choose to view apps on the hard drive. If you can't, either you have an incompatible hard drive, or it isn't in the correct port, or it's not formatted correctly.

    If you do manage to see the apps off the hard drive in the HBC, try launching the USB loader from there instead of the main menu forwarder channel.

    Edit: some hard drives are slow to initialize, if that's the issue, you can try numerous times quickly to access the hard drive and it may work on the second attempt (first attempt will start to wake up the drive but will time out before initializing, second attempt may work if the HDD is already primed from the first attempt)

    Edit2: there might be more things to try but I think let's start with what I've listed. Report back and if you still need help I will suggest other things to try, or I'm sure someone else will like @Cyan or @GreyWolf
     
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  4. GreyWolf

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    A SysCheck report would help greatly, as would information on which loader you're using and what version it is. Note that there are multiple forks of both WiiFlow and CFG USB Loader so if you know which one it is that might help.
     
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  5. XFlak

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    Presumably he's using the versions downloaded by ModMii. I doubt the issue is the USB loader itself (unless it's something as simple as forgetting to copy the contents of the COPY TO USB folder to the USB so it's not finding the USB loader boot.dol)
     
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  6. Bobba_fat
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    Hey,
    Thanks for you answers. Im gonna check it up now those previous mentioned instructions.

    (You are right, I used the modmii download for everything.)

    No I followed the steps of this one. Where it said copy to usb i did put them on the usb. Same for copy to SD card.
    Also, I did follow this for loading my games properly. Unless he is doing something wrong.




    I put them directly into the folder. See image for clarification.

    Ill get back to you on the other ones.

    And thanks for all the help, really appreciate it!
     

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    (I dont really know the fork of my Wiiflow and CFG USB Loader, it was the one that was provided from modmii tutorial. Are there multiple versions in those?
    If it helps, I cant see any of those two when booting my wii.

    Here is my syscheck:

    SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
    ...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).
    Region: PAL
    System Menu 4.3E (v514)
    Priiloader installed
    Drive date: 07.14.2008
    Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58
    Hollywood v0x21
    Console ID: 125572435
    Console Type: Wii
    Shop Channel Country: Sweden (107)
    Boot2 v4
    Found 70 titles.
    Found 50 IOS on this console. 5 of them are stubs.
    IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
    IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
    IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
    IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
    IOS11 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
    IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
    IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
    IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
    IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
    IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
    IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
    IOS20 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
    IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
    IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
    IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
    IOS30 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
    IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
    IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
    IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
    IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
    IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
    IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
    IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
    IOS40 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
    IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
    IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
    IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
    IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
    IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
    IOS50 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
    IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
    IOS52 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
    IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
    IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
    IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
    IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
    IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
    IOS60 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
    IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
    IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
    IOS70 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
    IOS80 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
    IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS222[38] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS223[38+37] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS236[36] (rev 65535, Info: rev 3351): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
    IOS249[56] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS250[57] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
    BC v6
    MIOS v10
    Report generated on 08/12/2018.

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  8. Cyan

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    hint
    You better keep a dedicated SD (SDHC) card into your Wii.
    SD are mounted immediately without init problem and work with all IOS, unlike HDD. It will prevent initialization and detection issues, data loss (yeah, you could corrupt your hdd if it lose power or it shutdowns while it's writing something).

    Always keep all your homebrew and their resources (settings, pictures, etc.) on SD card.
    use the USB only for ROM or ISO, no covers pictures or sound file or theme files, etc.


    syscheck
    your syscheck is good, which means all modmii guide has properly been followed and everything is installed correctly.
    don't touch or edit the IOS or cIOS anymore.

    youtube
    You said you followed the video and install the games the "proper way" but then you said you "put them in the folder".
    the video was almost good, until it told users to do things manually (like "split files don't work, do it yourself !" that's wrong. He probably used an old version of that program, and following old tutorial video is expecting to be based on outdated and bugged versions. Don't follow video tutorials). He also did strange things, like using "drive2" instead of "drive1" (nothing wrong, just odd to not mount the drives in tab's order), and he also created a wbfs folder on his C partition (why touch the system partition with hacks ? not safe...), he also didn't tell how to setup the program properly. well, a half badly done guide in my opinion.


    But, it's not a problem here, your problem is the device detection.
    You said it crashes on both listing USB or SD.
    But, you could follow modmii tutorial up until now, so listing the SD card was not a problem. until AFTER you followed modmii, right?
    Did you change the SD content after following modmii ? did you add or remove homebrew or any files?

    let's try in order:
    1)
    can you launch HBC without any connected devices? do you see any flashing or highlighted logo (network is detected and highlighted?)
    can you press Home menu, and verify it's detecting IOS58 v24.32 ?
    can you press the option button (still without any SD or USB inserted) and exit that menu without crashes?

    2)
    Which size is your SD card?
    are you sure the card is formatted to FAT32, not exFAT?
    Do you have only one SD card, or more ?
    did you try inserting other SD cards ? even ones without the "/apps/" folder ?
    does it crashes only when you select the "SD card" option in the menu, or right when you insert the card?

    maybe the crash is because one of the homebrew has an incorrect meta.xml file? so, first, try inserting the card without any homebrew in the /apps/ folder. just see if it crashes at device detection or at homebrew listing.

    to know if the SD card is detected :
    the bubble will (should) pop out when you insert/eject the SD. if not, press the option button and verify the "SD card" option can be selected/is highlighted.



    what's strange is that you are the second user in one week with the HBC crash issue. the other user had this crash on both wii and vwii. there's something HBC doesn't like, and we have to find it. acting step by step, adding one homebrew at a time is the best thing.
     
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  10. Cyan

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    I would appreciate a proper easy guide if you have any suggestion.
    when using modmii and copying there is already a folder with that name, I figured the correct way would be to transfer them via Wii backup manager.
    I didn't understand what you mean by "when using modmii there is already a folder with that name" .. which name ? modmii ? wbfs? modmii generated a wbfs empty folder? I didn't know it did that.
    a small guide to setup and use WiibackupManager : https://gbatemp.net/posts/7592791


    I dont know what you mean by pressing option button?
    well, the button "1" or "2" on your wiimote. the option button is the button which "display the HBC option", the one where you can select to mount from SD or USB, etc.
    when I said "can you exit the option screen" I wanted to see if the bug was selecting the SD/usb, or exiting that screen where you select it.



    fat32? YES. (Question, would the files show up IF i had exFAT and work normally. I am sure though 100% i chose fat32 on both HDD and SD.)
    wait, do you mean that HBC can list files on your SD card? I thought it crashed!

    however I am sure that the SD card is working perfectly fine.
    how can you be sure when it crashes ? that's all the point of debugging ! nothing is sure until you test another one.

    No, care to expand on this? Meaning that I should take them out of the app folder and directly into to SD root? So instead of APP/... just SD/...
    instead of /app/ .... NO HOMEBREW AT ALL !
    where did I mention to move homebrew to another location ?
    the purpose is to see if HBC crashes WITHOUT HOMEBREW on the card. No reason to keep them elsewhere, the purpose is to remove them!

    It never crashes TBH.
    Wait .... didn't you just told us this : EDIT: I get the same error when trying to open SD-Card slot.

    soo, it crash or not with SD card ? please give proper info, because I started debugging the SD card and now you tell it works fine ?


    When I add it to the slot, and go to SD menu via the Wii menu, nothing shows up. Is it the way its supposed to be? onyl greyed out wii background and 1/20 but no files.
    Wait, yo talk about the official nintendo SD menu accessible from the Wii home menu ? I'm talking to you about HBC.
    you never talked about SD menu in the wii home menu. is that another problem you have with that menu ? That's completely normal you don't see anything in the official games bought from nintendo, if you didn't bought any games from nintendo.


    I dont exactly know what you mean? "just see if it crashes at device detection or at homebrew listing"
    I removed all files from the /app/folder and inserted into wii. Now what? (It gets detected on main wii menu)

    Now you launch The homebrew Channel !
    really, the problem was the HBC, not your Wii menu ! we try to debug HBC, RUN HBC !


    sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to do, nor what you are telling us.
    you said HBC didn't detect your USB, it crashes.
    then you said SD card too crashes !
    then when I tell you to test if it still crashes, you go in another place ?

    I'll let someone else help you because it seems we don't understand each others.
     
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  11. XFlak

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    We are not referring to the SD card button/menu on the main wii home screen. We're discussing only accessing the SD card from the HBC (not main menu). While in the homebrew channel, press either 1 or 2 to access HBC options like choosing where to look for apps sd versus USB (one of those buttons 1 or 2 will present you with options, the other will change your view from a list to a grid).

    If you open the homebrew channel with just the SD card inserted, does it crash? What if you start the homebrew channel with nothing inserted, then insert sd while on the homebrew channel options page? If it crashes, does it also crash if you were to insert an SD card without any apps on it (i.e. Rename your apps folder to apps_ or apps_off or something to test, or try your other SD card)? And what happens under the same scenario when inserting USB HDD instead of SD?

    Basically if loading the sd card used to work, but is no longer working for some reason, we would like to investigate why. What was the last thing you did to the wii before experiencing crashes when simply trying to load apps off the SD card?

    I'm gonna let @Cyan take lead on troubleshooting this, but thought I could at least answer some of your questions or clarify some of Cyans points so you can continue providing us with more info in the meantime.

    Edit: while my personal preference is to always have an SD card in my wii, it is not necessary for most things (after the initial hacks are completed that is). The only things to truly require it is bootmii (i.e. For making and restoring backups), expanding wii's memory via Nintendo's official methods built into the system menu or data management settings, Sega master system or genplus gx emulators (emulators might work fine without sd card but forwarder channels might fail, so would need to launch these manually via the HBC), or crazy intro videos, and possibly some other less commonly used homebrew. I have helped many people mod their wii's and most borrow an SD card for the initial modding process and to make a nand backup, then never use a dedicated SD card in their wii again. So in this area I will disagree with Cyan but if u have a spare SD card it could help slightly with load times.

    Edit2: can u confirm you're using port0 for USB HDD?
     
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    Please see the images attached, and get back to me on what I could be doing wrong.

    ALSO, in the HBC when clicking options, I cant click on the Internal SD och USB anymore and get those crashes (EXception DSI Occured) (That was the only time i got "crashes". And they are not happening anymore, since it wont react when clicking on them anymore).
     

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  13. Cyan

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    so, no more crashes?
    that's good.

    is your HDD doing any clicking noise ? or led blinking ? it means it doesn't have enough power and you need Y-cable or external power supply.

    be sure you plug it into the bottom USB port.
    try connecting it after launching the USBLoader.
    try launching the USBLoader from HBC instead of launching the channel on your Wii menu.
    try another USBLoader

    I don't think of anything else.
     
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    IT WORKED WITH YOUR USB LOADER GX!

    https://sourceforge.net/projects/usbloadergx/

    To anyone who is following modmii guide (I am noob, so probably you are too, if you read all this way, then what you are missing is a USB loader, that did not come with the Modmii guide for some strange reason. Go download it from the link above, add it to your apps folder, go to homebrew channel HBC and Voila! :D it should load your games)

    Thank you guys so much for all of this, your time and efforts. I really appreciate it!

    I hope this helps the next person.

    @XFlak, There was no loader in my file/guide? or was there maybe? It didn't show up anyways? See my images.

    Yeaaaajj!! so glad! :D

    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _


    Additional note to @XFlak to add for clarity to the modmii guide: use my image (or a better image) to let users now what they should expect to see on the HBC when installing the files from copy to SD to SD. Just to make sure that they have the right files.
    And also perhaps write that additional loader (such as USB loader GX) needs to be installed if loader did not show.
    Also make sure to be extra clear that all this needs to be run from HBC and not from wii menu. (Just my 2 cents, so you wouldnt need more noob questions headaches like me! :))
    Ok I am exceptional, but there are those out there :P
     
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  15. Cyan

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    modmii added 2 USB Loader to your SD : USBLoader_CFG and Wiiflow.
    the channel you launch from the wii menu is a shortcut to launch the loader you want based on the button you press when launching it. (if I remember correctly)

    it's true modmii doesn't have USBLoaderGX, but it's not hard to add it yourself like you did.

    I'm glad that loader works, but it still doesn't tell why only this one is working, nor why the others are not showing in HBC. I'm sure you had a wrong setting in hbc (which probably tried to list usb instead of sd).
     
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    Glad this is all sorted out. Modmii has a ton of automatic checks, and will inform you if any files are missing so unless a user ignores errors (which i understand is not the case in this instance) then there is no point in having modmii instruct you to manually check if the right files are present.

    2 loaders is enough, but I could possibly add gx, not really working on modmii much these days but maybe in a future housekeeping update

    I'm happy it all got sorted out! Enjoy!
     
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    Thank you both so much for the help!
    Really appreciate it!
     
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