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Hey guys,

Will try to keep it short, and hope i get short answers and not alot of links to other guides. I have googled and this is my last resort. So thanks in advance.
First is first, new to the wii softmod scene, so sorry bout that. And now here is my issue(s)

And a *... I tried a couple of independent modding tuts, for example installing HBC (that worked) and then the latest cIOS that didnt work, so I was recommended to go via the modmii tutorial and at the same time it would write over my previous installs with this solution, since it does replace all those things I had (tried to) install before (I guess).
So I didnt do any of the modmii install HBC solution because I already had that and letterbomb solution in place.

So...

The modmii installation worked, I guess. I had no trouble following the guide and everything shows up.
However, when I try to load my games via usb loader from the wii Main screen, it just asks me: Please connect a USB drive. Then I press start. Screen shows quick WII, goes black screen, and then just goes back to main menu, and no games shows up.

I installed the ios236
Installed priiloader
Installed the WAD

Partitioned my harddrive to FAT32

I used to wiibackup manager and transferred my backup games the proper way to my 2TB WD Elements.


"For playing your backups off a USB hard drive, run the USB-Loader Setup feature from ModMii's Main Menu."
(I dont really understand this perhaps? Is it on the wii main menu?)

Anyways, I also attached some images, if that can give a better understanding.

My version is 4.3 (Lastest)
My HBC
1.1.2
IOS 58 v.24.32

Any help will be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
 

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Can you confirm all the wads installed successfully (if unsure, run a Syscheck and post results as instructed here: https://gbatemp.net/threads/posting-a-system-check.300279/ ) ?

Do you have the USB hard drive plugged into port 0 (USB port nearest the edge)? Is your hard drive properly formatted as fat32? Is the hard drive compatible with the wii? To check, open the HBC and go to the options menu (by pressing 1 or 2) and choose to view apps on the hard drive. If you can't, either you have an incompatible hard drive, or it isn't in the correct port, or it's not formatted correctly.

If you do manage to see the apps off the hard drive in the HBC, try launching the USB loader from there instead of the main menu forwarder channel.

Edit: some hard drives are slow to initialize, if that's the issue, you can try numerous times quickly to access the hard drive and it may work on the second attempt (first attempt will start to wake up the drive but will time out before initializing, second attempt may work if the HDD is already primed from the first attempt)

Edit2: there might be more things to try but I think let's start with what I've listed. Report back and if you still need help I will suggest other things to try, or I'm sure someone else will like @Cyan or @GreyWolf
 
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A SysCheck report would help greatly, as would information on which loader you're using and what version it is. Note that there are multiple forks of both WiiFlow and CFG USB Loader so if you know which one it is that might help.
 
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Presumably he's using the versions downloaded by ModMii. I doubt the issue is the USB loader itself (unless it's something as simple as forgetting to copy the contents of the COPY TO USB folder to the USB so it's not finding the USB loader boot.dol)
 
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Presumably he's using the versions downloaded by ModMii. I doubt the issue is the USB loader itself (unless it's something as simple as forgetting to copy the contents of the COPY TO USB folder to the USB so it's not finding the USB loader boot.dol)

Hey,
Thanks for you answers. Im gonna check it up now those previous mentioned instructions.

(You are right, I used the modmii download for everything.)

No I followed the steps of this one. Where it said copy to usb i did put them on the usb. Same for copy to SD card.
Also, I did follow this for loading my games properly. Unless he is doing something wrong.




I put them directly into the folder. See image for clarification.

Ill get back to you on the other ones.

And thanks for all the help, really appreciate it!
 

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A SysCheck report would help greatly, as would information on which loader you're using and what version it is. Note that there are multiple forks of both WiiFlow and CFG USB Loader so if you know which one it is that might help.

(I dont really know the fork of my Wiiflow and CFG USB Loader, it was the one that was provided from modmii tutorial. Are there multiple versions in those?
If it helps, I cant see any of those two when booting my wii.

Here is my syscheck:

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).
Region: PAL
System Menu 4.3E (v514)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 07.14.2008
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58
Hollywood v0x21
Console ID: 125572435
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: Sweden (107)
Boot2 v4
Found 70 titles.
Found 50 IOS on this console. 5 of them are stubs.
IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS80 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS222[38] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS223[38+37] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS236[36] (rev 65535, Info: rev 3351): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS249[56] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10
Report generated on 08/12/2018.

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Can you confirm all the wads installed successfully (if unsure, run a Syscheck and post results as instructed here: https://gbatemp.net/threads/posting-a-system-check.300279/ ) ?

  1. Do you have the USB hard drive plugged into port 0 (USB port nearest the edge)? I tried both usb ports to be sure.
  2. Is your hard drive properly formatted as fat32? It is. I followed the instructions as per se:

    • USB Loader and Hard Drive setup

    The rest of the guide is performed on your computer in order to set up your USB-Loader
      • Partition and Format the External Hard Drive for FAT32
      First check if your drive needs to be formatted by checking the current Format\File-System of the drive.
      Open "My Computer", right-click the external hard drive you want to use, then select "properties".
      Make note of the Drive Letter of the external hard drive as this will be important later.
      If the "File-System" is already FAT32, you can skip this step.

      If you have anything saved on the hard drive, you should back it up now as all the data will be lost once you format it.
      FAT32.gif

      Launch FAT32_GUI_Formatter.exe saved here: COPY_TO_USB\FAT32_GUI_Formatter\FAT32_GUI_Formatter.exe

      Make sure you select the drive letter corresponding to your external hard drive.
      You may optionally uncheck the "Quick Format" box, then click start.

      • Copy Files to the Hard Drive
      Copy everything inside the COPY_TO_USB folder to the root of your FAT32 hard-drive\partition.
  • Is the hard drive compatible with the wii? It should be. I checked the compatible ones on GBAtemp list and 2TB WD should be a go!
https://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/USB_Devices_Compatibility_List

  • To check, open the HBC and go to the options menu (by pressing 1 or 2) and choose to view apps on the hard drive. If you can't, either you have an incompatible hard drive, or it isn't in the correct port, or it's not formatted correctly. (Please see image provided, I get Exception DSI when opening via HBC-->options-->usb device) EDIT: I get the same error when trying to open SD-Card slot.

If you do manage to see the apps off the hard drive in the HBC, try launching the USB loader from there instead of the main menu forwarder channel.
(I cant see the apps here)

Edit: some hard drives are slow to initialize, if that's the issue, you can try numerous times quickly to access the hard drive and it may work on the second attempt (first attempt will start to wake up the drive but will time out before initializing, second attempt may work if the HDD is already primed from the first attempt)

(How do I do this? I really dont think the problem may be that its not initializing, or at least not yet?)

Also... when I have a proper install of everything, I shouldn't be needing my SD card anymore right? Everything should be able to run of my external USB drive.


Edit2: there might be more things to try but I think let's start with what I've listed. Report back and if you still need help I will suggest other things to try, or I'm sure someone else will like @Cyan or @GreyWolf
 

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You better keep a dedicated SD (SDHC) card into your Wii.
SD are mounted immediately without init problem and work with all IOS, unlike HDD. It will prevent initialization and detection issues, data loss (yeah, you could corrupt your hdd if it lose power or it shutdowns while it's writing something).

Always keep all your homebrew and their resources (settings, pictures, etc.) on SD card.
use the USB only for ROM or ISO, no covers pictures or sound file or theme files, etc.


syscheck
your syscheck is good, which means all modmii guide has properly been followed and everything is installed correctly.
don't touch or edit the IOS or cIOS anymore.

youtube
You said you followed the video and install the games the "proper way" but then you said you "put them in the folder".
the video was almost good, until it told users to do things manually (like "split files don't work, do it yourself !" that's wrong. He probably used an old version of that program, and following old tutorial video is expecting to be based on outdated and bugged versions. Don't follow video tutorials). He also did strange things, like using "drive2" instead of "drive1" (nothing wrong, just odd to not mount the drives in tab's order), and he also created a wbfs folder on his C partition (why touch the system partition with hacks ? not safe...), he also didn't tell how to setup the program properly. well, a half badly done guide in my opinion.


But, it's not a problem here, your problem is the device detection.
You said it crashes on both listing USB or SD.
To check, open the HBC and go to the options menu (by pressing 1 or 2) and choose to view apps on the hard drive. If you can't, either you have an incompatible hard drive, or it isn't in the correct port, or it's not formatted correctly.
(Please see image provided, I get Exception DSI when opening via HBC-->options-->usb device) EDIT: I get the same error when trying to open SD-Card slot.

But, you could follow modmii tutorial up until now, so listing the SD card was not a problem. until AFTER you followed modmii, right?
Did you change the SD content after following modmii ? did you add or remove homebrew or any files?

let's try in order:
1)
can you launch HBC without any connected devices? do you see any flashing or highlighted logo (network is detected and highlighted?)
can you press Home menu, and verify it's detecting IOS58 v24.32 ?
can you press the option button (still without any SD or USB inserted) and exit that menu without crashes?

2)
Which size is your SD card?
are you sure the card is formatted to FAT32, not exFAT?
Do you have only one SD card, or more ?
did you try inserting other SD cards ? even ones without the "/apps/" folder ?
does it crashes only when you select the "SD card" option in the menu, or right when you insert the card?

maybe the crash is because one of the homebrew has an incorrect meta.xml file? so, first, try inserting the card without any homebrew in the /apps/ folder. just see if it crashes at device detection or at homebrew listing.

to know if the SD card is detected :
the bubble will (should) pop out when you insert/eject the SD. if not, press the option button and verify the "SD card" option can be selected/is highlighted.



what's strange is that you are the second user in one week with the HBC crash issue. the other user had this crash on both wii and vwii. there's something HBC doesn't like, and we have to find it. acting step by step, adding one homebrew at a time is the best thing.
 
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You better keep a dedicated SD (SDHC) card into your Wii.
SD are mounted immediately without init problem and work with all IOS, unlike HDD. It will prevent initialization and detection issues, data loss (yeah, you could corrupt your hdd if it lose power or it shutdowns while it's writing something).

Always keep all your homebrew and their resources (settings, pictures, etc.) on SD card.
use the USB only for ROM or ISO, no covers pictures or sound file or theme files, etc.


syscheck
your syscheck is good, which means all modmii guide has properly been followed and everything is installed correctly.
don't touch or edit the IOS or cIOS anymore.

Yes, I had i think 49 wad files to go through, but everything checked out ok as you prob. could see in the syscheck.

youtube
You said you followed the video and install the games the "proper way" but then you said you "put them in the folder".
the video was almost good, until it told users to do things manually (like "split files don't work, do it yourself !" that's wrong. He probably used an old version of that program, and following old tutorial video is expecting to be based on outdated and bugged versions. Don't follow video tutorials). He also did strange things, like using "drive2" instead of "drive1" (nothing wrong, just odd to not mount the drives in tab's order), and he also created a wbfs folder on his C partition (why touch the system partition with hacks ? not safe...), he also didn't tell how to setup the program properly. well, a half badly done guide in my opinion.

I would appreciate a proper easy guide if you have any suggestion.
I dont know about split files etc, just got simple isos and WBFS files.
I didnt use partition, when using modmii and copying there is already a folder with that name, I figured the correct way would be to transfer them via Wii backup manager.
(I am presuming just copy pasting the files into the folder doesn't work?)


But, it's not a problem here, your problem is the device detection.
You said it crashes on both listing USB or SD.


But, you could follow modmii tutorial up until now, so listing the SD card was not a problem. until AFTER you followed modmii, right? It never was a problem? It worked properly? Since I could use it and install everything?
Did you change the SD content after following modmii ? NO! The after getting files from modmii I reformated with fat32 and put the files that was suggested in the guide. did you add or remove homebrew or any files? No more or less than the files that followed with the guide. Copy to sd was put on SD. Copy to USB was copied to USB. :)

Let me take it from the top.
I tried first other way around from other guides regarding loading stuff on the SD card. As I previously mentioned. Then someone suggested the modmii.
I reformatted my SD card, and put modmii files on it. So now it currently has all the files needed that modmii tutorial provides. And I started from the beginning of the tutorial.



let's try in order:
1)
can you launch HBC without any connected devices? do you see any flashing or highlighted logo (network is detected and highlighted?)
So... Without SD card OR WD 2TB I can still go to HBC and select it. My wifi is connected.
can you press Home menu, and verify it's detecting IOS58 v24.32 ?
YES I can.
can you press the option button (still without any SD or USB inserted) and exit that menu without crashes?
I dont know what you mean by pressing option button?, but I press home and chose exit to system menu, and it goes back, no problem there.

2)
Which size is your SD card? I use a San Disk 1GB
are you sure the card is formatted to FAT32, not exFAT? YES. (Question, would the files show up IF i had exFAT and work normally. I am sure though 100% i chose fat32 on both HDD and SD.)
Do you have only one SD card, or more ? Just one SD card but I also have 8gb SDHC card (Havent tried on that one though, however I am sure that the SD card is working perfectly fine).
did you try inserting other SD cards ? NO even ones without the "/apps/" folder ? No, care to expand on this? Meaning that I should take them out of the app folder and directly into to SD root? So instead of APP/... just SD/...
does it crashes only when you select the "SD card" option in the menu, or right when you insert the card? It never crashes TBH. Files are there. However... When I add it to the slot, and go to SD menu via the Wii menu, nothing shows up. Is it the way its supposed to be? onyl greyed out wii background and 1/20 but no files.

maybe the crash is because one of the homebrew has an incorrect meta.xml file? so, first, try inserting the card without any homebrew in the /apps/ folder. just see if it crashes at device detection or at homebrew listing.

I dont exactly know what you mean? "just see if it crashes at device detection or at homebrew listing"

I removed all files from the /app/folder and inserted into wii. Now what? (It gets detected on main wii menu)


to know if the SD card is detected :
the bubble will (should) pop out when you insert/eject the SD. if not, press the option button and verify the "SD card" option can be selected/is highlighted.

Again, what is this option button? (Home? :) Either way, it pops in and out when using the sd slot.

what's strange is that you are the second user in one week with the HBC crash issue. the other user had this crash on both wii and vwii. there's something HBC doesn't like, and we have to find it. acting step by step, adding one homebrew at a time is the best thing.

Agreed! I hope I can be of help. And thank you for your efforts.


CYAN: My thought was initially that because for example I had used other guides previously and software, maybe the HBC would be wrongly installed, or some other faulty software, however, since I did follow the modmii install from the beginning, everything that would be "bad" or not useful, would be overwritten anyways by modmii. Unless my thinking is wrong?
 
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I would appreciate a proper easy guide if you have any suggestion.
when using modmii and copying there is already a folder with that name, I figured the correct way would be to transfer them via Wii backup manager.
I didn't understand what you mean by "when using modmii there is already a folder with that name" .. which name ? modmii ? wbfs? modmii generated a wbfs empty folder? I didn't know it did that.
a small guide to setup and use WiibackupManager : https://gbatemp.net/posts/7592791


I dont know what you mean by pressing option button?
well, the button "1" or "2" on your wiimote. the option button is the button which "display the HBC option", the one where you can select to mount from SD or USB, etc.
when I said "can you exit the option screen" I wanted to see if the bug was selecting the SD/usb, or exiting that screen where you select it.



fat32? YES. (Question, would the files show up IF i had exFAT and work normally. I am sure though 100% i chose fat32 on both HDD and SD.)
wait, do you mean that HBC can list files on your SD card? I thought it crashed!

however I am sure that the SD card is working perfectly fine.
how can you be sure when it crashes ? that's all the point of debugging ! nothing is sure until you test another one.

No, care to expand on this? Meaning that I should take them out of the app folder and directly into to SD root? So instead of APP/... just SD/...
instead of /app/ .... NO HOMEBREW AT ALL !
where did I mention to move homebrew to another location ?
the purpose is to see if HBC crashes WITHOUT HOMEBREW on the card. No reason to keep them elsewhere, the purpose is to remove them!

It never crashes TBH.
Wait .... didn't you just told us this : EDIT: I get the same error when trying to open SD-Card slot.

soo, it crash or not with SD card ? please give proper info, because I started debugging the SD card and now you tell it works fine ?


When I add it to the slot, and go to SD menu via the Wii menu, nothing shows up. Is it the way its supposed to be? onyl greyed out wii background and 1/20 but no files.
Wait, yo talk about the official nintendo SD menu accessible from the Wii home menu ? I'm talking to you about HBC.
you never talked about SD menu in the wii home menu. is that another problem you have with that menu ? That's completely normal you don't see anything in the official games bought from nintendo, if you didn't bought any games from nintendo.


I dont exactly know what you mean? "just see if it crashes at device detection or at homebrew listing"
I removed all files from the /app/folder and inserted into wii. Now what? (It gets detected on main wii menu)

Now you launch The homebrew Channel !
really, the problem was the HBC, not your Wii menu ! we try to debug HBC, RUN HBC !


sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to do, nor what you are telling us.
you said HBC didn't detect your USB, it crashes.
then you said SD card too crashes !
then when I tell you to test if it still crashes, you go in another place ?

I'll let someone else help you because it seems we don't understand each others.
 
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We are not referring to the SD card button/menu on the main wii home screen. We're discussing only accessing the SD card from the HBC (not main menu). While in the homebrew channel, press either 1 or 2 to access HBC options like choosing where to look for apps sd versus USB (one of those buttons 1 or 2 will present you with options, the other will change your view from a list to a grid).

If you open the homebrew channel with just the SD card inserted, does it crash? What if you start the homebrew channel with nothing inserted, then insert sd while on the homebrew channel options page? If it crashes, does it also crash if you were to insert an SD card without any apps on it (i.e. Rename your apps folder to apps_ or apps_off or something to test, or try your other SD card)? And what happens under the same scenario when inserting USB HDD instead of SD?

Basically if loading the sd card used to work, but is no longer working for some reason, we would like to investigate why. What was the last thing you did to the wii before experiencing crashes when simply trying to load apps off the SD card?

I'm gonna let @Cyan take lead on troubleshooting this, but thought I could at least answer some of your questions or clarify some of Cyans points so you can continue providing us with more info in the meantime.

Edit: while my personal preference is to always have an SD card in my wii, it is not necessary for most things (after the initial hacks are completed that is). The only things to truly require it is bootmii (i.e. For making and restoring backups), expanding wii's memory via Nintendo's official methods built into the system menu or data management settings, Sega master system or genplus gx emulators (emulators might work fine without sd card but forwarder channels might fail, so would need to launch these manually via the HBC), or crazy intro videos, and possibly some other less commonly used homebrew. I have helped many people mod their wii's and most borrow an SD card for the initial modding process and to make a nand backup, then never use a dedicated SD card in their wii again. So in this area I will disagree with Cyan but if u have a spare SD card it could help slightly with load times.

Edit2: can u confirm you're using port0 for USB HDD?
 
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I would appreciate a proper easy guide if you have any suggestion.
when using modmii and copying there is already a folder with that name, I figured the correct way would be to transfer them via Wii backup manager.
I didn't understand what you mean by "when using modmii there is already a folder with that name" .. which name ? modmii ? wbfs? modmii generated a wbfs empty folder? I didn't know it did that.
a small guide to setup and use WiibackupManager : https://gbatemp.net/posts/7592791


I dont know what you mean by pressing option button?
well, the button "1" or "2" on your wiimote. the option button is the button which "display the HBC option", the one where you can select to mount from SD or USB, etc.
when I said "can you exit the option screen" I wanted to see if the bug was selecting the SD/usb, or exiting that screen where you select it.



fat32? YES. (Question, would the files show up IF i had exFAT and work normally. I am sure though 100% i chose fat32 on both HDD and SD.)
wait, do you mean that HBC can list files on your SD card? I thought it crashed!

HBC can list my apps. Please see image attached.

however I am sure that the SD card is working perfectly fine.
how can you be sure when it crashes ? that's all the point of debugging ! nothing is sure until you test another one.

It doesn't crash. Again please see image for clarification.

No, care to expand on this? Meaning that I should take them out of the app folder and directly into to SD root? So instead of APP/... just SD/...
instead of /app/ .... NO HOMEBREW AT ALL !
where did I mention to move homebrew to another location ?
the purpose is to see if HBC crashes WITHOUT HOMEBREW on the card. No reason to keep them elsewhere, the purpose is to remove them!

It never crashes TBH.
Wait .... didn't you just told us this : EDIT: I get the same error when trying to open SD-Card slot.

soo, it crash or not with SD card ? please give proper info, because I started debugging the SD card and now you tell it works fine ?

Honestly now I cant even click on the SD or USB button and get the crashes I was getting before.


When I add it to the slot, and go to SD menu via the Wii menu, nothing shows up. Is it the way its supposed to be? onyl greyed out wii background and 1/20 but no files.
Wait, yo talk about the official nintendo SD menu accessible from the Wii home menu ? I'm talking to you about HBC.
you never talked about SD menu in the wii home menu. is that another problem you have with that menu ? That's completely normal you don't see anything in the official games bought from nintendo, if you didn't bought any games from nintendo.

Sorry, I thought maybe from the official nintendo wii SD menu there was supposed to show something, but now i understand that we are talking about only in HBC.


I dont exactly know what you mean? "just see if it crashes at device detection or at homebrew listing"
I removed all files from the /app/folder and inserted into wii. Now what? (It gets detected on main wii menu)

Now you launch The homebrew Channel ! O_O
really, the problem was the HBC, not your Wii menu ! we try to debug HBC, RUN HBC !

Again please see my images and advice further.


sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to do, nor what you are telling us.
you said HBC didn't detect your USB, it crashes. Again, please see images, it does recognize my USB.
then you said SD card too crashes ! When in the option meny of HBC i clicked on it. Now I cant even click it anymore. Please see me the answer in the bottom for further clarification.
then when I tell you to test if it still crashes, you go in another place ?

I'll let someone else help you because it seems we don't understand each others.
I appreciate all your help. Sorry if im not being clear enough, its all my fault. Please advice further. Im truly greatful for all your efforts and help.


Please see the images attached, and get back to me on what I could be doing wrong.

ALSO, in the HBC when clicking options, I cant click on the Internal SD och USB anymore and get those crashes (EXception DSI Occured) (That was the only time i got "crashes". And they are not happening anymore, since it wont react when clicking on them anymore).
 

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so, no more crashes?
that's good.

is your HDD doing any clicking noise ? or led blinking ? it means it doesn't have enough power and you need Y-cable or external power supply.

be sure you plug it into the bottom USB port.
try connecting it after launching the USBLoader.
try launching the USBLoader from HBC instead of launching the channel on your Wii menu.
try another USBLoader

I don't think of anything else.
 
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We are not referring to the SD card button/menu on the main wii home screen. We're discussing only accessing the SD card from the HBC (not main menu). While in the homebrew channel, press either 1 or 2 to access HBC options like choosing where to look for apps sd versus USB (one of those buttons 1 or 2 will present you with options, the other will change your view from a list to a grid). OK Got it! I did as instructed. Please see images attached.

If you open the homebrew channel with just the SD card inserted, does it crash? NO! What if you start the homebrew channel with nothing inserted, then insert sd while on the homebrew channel options page? Open Homebrew, no sd card in it. Then insert SD card. All files shows up (MMM, IOS 236, Priiloader, Simple, Hackmii) If it crashes, does it also crash if you were to insert an SD card without any apps on it (i.e. Rename your apps folder to apps_ or apps_off or something to test, or try your other SD card)? SANDISK 8GB SDHC same results as previous. Apps_off rename: Nothing shows. (renamed back again to apps and worked fine, shows all files (MMM,ios...etc) And what happens under the same scenario when inserting USB HDD instead of SD? How do you mean exactly? USB is not recognized. Nothing shows in HBC when adding USB, unless i shoul/could put the move to SD to HDD, is that ok/possible?

Basically if loading the sd card used to work, but is no longer working for some reason, we would like to investigate why. Sorry for not being clear. See images attached. They have shown up in HBC. What was the last thing you did to the wii before experiencing crashes when simply trying to load apps off the SD card? Sorry for being unclear. It never crashed unless i went to hbc-->options-->internal SD slot (Or USB) --> click and then I get the error message of exception DSI. That does not happen anymore either, since I cant click on the internal SD Slot anymore (as I could before and crash it) It is however visible, please see images attached for better understanding.

I'm gonna let @Cyan take lead on troubleshooting this, but thought I could at least answer some of your questions or clarify some of Cyans points so you can continue providing us with more info in the meantime.

Edit: while my personal preference is to always have an SD card in my wii, it is not necessary for most things (after the initial hacks are completed that is). The only things to truly require it is bootmii (i.e. For making and restoring backups), expanding wii's memory via Nintendo's official methods built into the system menu or data management settings, Sega master system or genplus gx emulators (emulators might work fine without sd card but forwarder channels might fail, so would need to launch these manually via the HBC), or crazy intro videos, and possibly some other less commonly used homebrew. I have helped many people mod their wii's and most borrow an SD card for the initial modding process and to make a nand backup, then never use a dedicated SD card in their wii again. So in this area I will disagree with Cyan but if u have a spare SD card it could help slightly with load times. It really doesnt matter to me either way. I have that 1gb to spare so, why not! :)

Edit2: can u confirm you're using port0 for USB HDD? I tried both USB ports! (The ones in the back of the wii) (There is no more than two right?)
I tried both the one above and under, my wii is laying down.

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

so, no more crashes?
that's good.

is your HDD doing any clicking noise ? No or led blinking ? No. The light is on all the time. I would consider that it is being supported with electricity! (?) it means it doesn't have enough power and you need Y-cable or external power supply.

be sure you plug it into the bottom USB port. I think that is what I am doing. Tried both ports.
try connecting it after launching the USBLoader. Sorry, how do I launch the USBloader? I dont think I have it (check my images i attached please). I have priiloader, but thats not it? Would i need the usb loader GX or something installed in my apps section?
try launching the USBLoader from HBC instead of launching the channel on your Wii menu. (As mentioned, I cant see it?)
try another USBLoader (Is the usb loader GX ok?) Is that for launching the games from my usb?

I don't think of anything else.

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

IT WORKED WITH YOUR USB LOADER GX!

https://sourceforge.net/projects/usbloadergx/

To anyone who is following modmii guide (I am noob, so probably you are too, if you read all this way, then what you are missing is a USB loader, that did not come with the Modmii guide for some strange reason. Go download it from the link above, add it to your apps folder, go to homebrew channel HBC and Voila! :D it should load your games)

Thank you guys so much for all of this, your time and efforts. I really appreciate it!

I hope this helps the next person.

@XFlak, There was no loader in my file/guide? or was there maybe? It didn't show up anyways? See my images.

Yeaaaajj!! so glad! :D

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Additional note to @XFlak to add for clarity to the modmii guide: use my image (or a better image) to let users now what they should expect to see on the HBC when installing the files from copy to SD to SD. Just to make sure that they have the right files.
And also perhaps write that additional loader (such as USB loader GX) needs to be installed if loader did not show.
Also make sure to be extra clear that all this needs to be run from HBC and not from wii menu. (Just my 2 cents, so you wouldnt need more noob questions headaches like me! :))
Ok I am exceptional, but there are those out there :P
 
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modmii added 2 USB Loader to your SD : USBLoader_CFG and Wiiflow.
the channel you launch from the wii menu is a shortcut to launch the loader you want based on the button you press when launching it. (if I remember correctly)

it's true modmii doesn't have USBLoaderGX, but it's not hard to add it yourself like you did.

I'm glad that loader works, but it still doesn't tell why only this one is working, nor why the others are not showing in HBC. I'm sure you had a wrong setting in hbc (which probably tried to list usb instead of sd).
 
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modmii added 2 USB Loader to your SD : USBLoader_CFG and Wiiflow. Thats also what I thought.
the channel you launch from the wii menu is a shortcut to launch the loader you want based on the button you press when launching it. (if I remember correctly)

it's true modmii doesn't have USBLoaderGX, but it's not hard to add it yourself like you did.

I'm glad that loader works, but it still doesn't tell why only this one is working True, nor why the others are not showing in HBC exactly. I'm sure you had a wrong setting in hbc (which probably tried to list usb instead of sd). How you mean?


Im glad to try anything more if needed.
 

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Glad this is all sorted out. Modmii has a ton of automatic checks, and will inform you if any files are missing so unless a user ignores errors (which i understand is not the case in this instance) then there is no point in having modmii instruct you to manually check if the right files are present.

2 loaders is enough, but I could possibly add gx, not really working on modmii much these days but maybe in a future housekeeping update

I'm happy it all got sorted out! Enjoy!
 
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