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Hells Guardian said:
If you remove priiloader it will solve the issue for some reason this bug exists in some models that wont allow the unit to enter standby from homebrew. I had a unit that had this same problem. As stated above turning on the disable standby option would also work but your wii will turn completely off then and never go to standby It will however allow you to preserve your wii's lifespan too. WC24 is the most useless option for a system I ever seen.
this is the first time i hear about this. let alone ive never seen the wii not completely shutdown (ok, the signal thing i know about thx to the bug trracker, but the green light?)
 

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lulwut said:
Hells Guardian said:
If you remove priiloader it will solve the issue for some reason this bug exists in some models that wont allow the unit to enter standby from homebrew. I had a unit that had this same problem. As stated above turning on the disable standby option would also work but your wii will turn completely off then and never go to standby It will however allow you to preserve your wii's lifespan too. WC24 is the most useless option for a system I ever seen.
this is the first time i hear about this. let alone ive never seen the wii not completely shutdown (ok, the signal thing i know about thx to the bug trracker, but the green light?)

It has the Orange light and from I've seen it still functions as WC24 normally would it's just the Video output remains on a black screen rather than turning off. I'm thinking this is because WC24 normally updates the Wii from standby (and yes the manual/warnings do say it will update the wii or at least download the update in standby) and PriiLoader disables that. Obvious answers would be to disable WC24 which would of course defeat the point of me turning it on or enable updates which could remove PriiLoader and brick the Wii thus permantly bricking the system (=bad).

Also I'm a bit annoyed how many answers are 'just turn off WC24 it sucks'. I have my reasons for keeping it on (some of which I've already stated) my question was is there a way to have PriiLoader and WC24 without the black screen. I also have younger siblings who actually play the system much more than I do (though they'll be kicked off it come the end of November for Zelda).

Finally the bit about the Wii's lifespan: it really doesn't matter that much. By the time I've exhausted the system to the point it no longer works (I'd assume that even as crappy as Nintendo has programmed the Wii it won't actually die or anything in just a few months, probably more like a a couple years at least) the Wii-U will be out and I'll probably already have it. Also I back up my data on a regular basis (which actually puts more wear on the system than WC24 probably ever will). I've also been hacking long enough that I could potentially rebuild my NAND if it were to break using the same methods I use for UNEEK+DI on my other system, it would just be a matter of re-encrypting the file to BackUpMii's format then using that to restore to any wii even a brand new one (only potential problems are if using a new system with different hardware).

Oh, and rereading some post if I were to use the PriiLoader hack to disable standby without disabling WC24 would that actually allow my system to get the mail stuff it needs for those games to work? DeadlyFoez claims he doesn't have WC24 on and yet can use features that explicitly state they need WC24 on. I could handle the longer time for the databases to update (and it really does take 2-5 mintues for that stuff) but what if a friend got MP3: Corruption and I wanted to give them friend vouchers (an example not a 'the only reason'). That feature to my understanding will only work if you allow the wii to download/upload data in the middle of the night or whenever it actually does that. Are you guys trying to tell me that that's a load of bull and it will actually upload/download all the data and relatively on time even if I don't use the feature.
 

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chaosdarkneo said:
The Wii dies in about 7-8 months from having WiiConnect24 on and overheating the Wii.

How does the Wii overheat using WC24? Does it not activate the fan or something? Considering my Wii is almost always on (my second youngest brothers beaten Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn about 20 times in the last 2 months) I don't see how WC24 is any worse unless Nintendo did something really stupid and didn't turn on the fan or if users are just really stupid and store the system in a bad place.
 

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PsyBlade said:
grnorris said:
Nintendo did something really stupid and didn't turn on the fan
this

But I don't know if it really gets dangerously hot. Kinda doubt it.

Figures. My fan doesn't work very well anyway so it really doesn't matter (bought the system used, the fan doesn't work well and it's a bit slow but the NAND is in near perfect health (I think I had one dead block)). If I start to see problems then I'll disable it but other than these forums I've really not heard of people having problems with WC24 burning the system out.
 

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grnorris said:
DeadlyFoez claims he doesn't have WC24 on and yet can use features that explicitly state they need WC24 on.
QUOTE(grnorris @ Sep 30 2011, 11:03 PM) Animal Crossing need's WC24 for various features (My wife, my kids, and I all have played this game extensively and I never saw anything about NEEDING WC24 for that game); Metroid Prime 3 needs it for Vouchers (WTF are vouchers? I beat the game and I didn't hear about that); The Mii channel which my siblings use more than I do uses it for Mii's to travel(Who really gives a fuck about that? Serisouly, what a waste of electricity to get your wii filled up with someone else's wii so pointlessly); News Channel (It can get this info when you turn the wii on), Forecast Channel (Same with this one), Nintendo Channel (Same with this one, and who even gives a shit about this channel?), and Wii Shop Channel keep their databases up to date (It doesn't take that long. Get over it)when it's on so I can just use the channels instead of waiting 2-5 minutes for data to transfer (and that's just because the Wii has such crappy Wi-Fi, hopefully the Wii-U will correct that mistake).
Thats just my opinion.
 

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I ran my lunch wii for 3 years with wii connect 24 on before it died (and now looking back on it I am pretty sure that's what killed it). Now I know bettter than to leave it on. Not sure where you got 6-8 months from (granted I would think it would be different for everyone).

About all the wii connect 24 settings working when you have disable standby mode on in priiloader, I'm pretty sure they work just fine. I can still send and receive mail on the wii and gifts in animal crossing. They come when you turn on your wii.
 

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chaosdarkneo said:
The Wii dies in about 7-8 months from having WiiConnect24 on and overheating the Wii.
ROFL! That is so not true. I've had WiiConnect24 turned on for 5 years and my Wii works fine.
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some do fail some don't. I've really been wondering if it is WC24 that has caused wii's to fail or just some other hardware issue. I would like to test it out somehow. I will eventually take the time to put my thermal probe on my wii (that sounds dirty) and do some tests.
 

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grnorris said:
lulwut said:
Hells Guardian said:
If you remove priiloader it will solve the issue for some reason this bug exists in some models that wont allow the unit to enter standby from homebrew. I had a unit that had this same problem. As stated above turning on the disable standby option would also work but your wii will turn completely off then and never go to standby It will however allow you to preserve your wii's lifespan too. WC24 is the most useless option for a system I ever seen.
this is the first time i hear about this. let alone ive never seen the wii not completely shutdown (ok, the signal thing i know about thx to the bug trracker, but the green light?)


It has the Orange light and from I've seen it still functions as WC24 normally would it's just the Video output remains on a black screen rather than turning off. I'm thinking this is because WC24 normally updates the Wii from standby (and yes the manual/warnings do say it will update the wii or at least download the update in standby) and PriiLoader disables that. Obvious answers would be to disable WC24 which would of course defeat the point of me turning it on or enable updates which could remove PriiLoader and brick the Wii thus permantly bricking the system (=bad).
he said green light stays on, hence why i got confused.
and no, in standby the wii can't download updates. ive never ever ever ever seen it happen in my life. the wii != the 3DS (which can and will download updates while in standby)

QUOTE(chaosdarkneo @ Oct 5 2011, 02:11 AM)
The Wii dies in about 7-8 months from having WiiConnect24 on and overheating the Wii.
my 2 year old wii seems to disagree with that bullshit
...and my brothers launch wii
...and my sisters launch wii

ever wondered how many components are on the wii pcb that could fail over time?
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lulwut said:
grnorris said:
lulwut said:
Hells Guardian said:
If you remove priiloader it will solve the issue for some reason this bug exists in some models that wont allow the unit to enter standby from homebrew. I had a unit that had this same problem. As stated above turning on the disable standby option would also work but your wii will turn completely off then and never go to standby It will however allow you to preserve your wii's lifespan too. WC24 is the most useless option for a system I ever seen.
this is the first time i hear about this. let alone ive never seen the wii not completely shutdown (ok, the signal thing i know about thx to the bug trracker, but the green light?)


It has the Orange light and from I've seen it still functions as WC24 normally would it's just the Video output remains on a black screen rather than turning off. I'm thinking this is because WC24 normally updates the Wii from standby (and yes the manual/warnings do say it will update the wii or at least download the update in standby) and PriiLoader disables that. Obvious answers would be to disable WC24 which would of course defeat the point of me turning it on or enable updates which could remove PriiLoader and brick the Wii thus permantly bricking the system (=bad).
he said green light stays on, hence why i got confused.
and no, in standby the wii can't download updates. ive never ever ever ever seen it happen in my life. the wii != the 3DS (which can and will download updates while in standby)

QUOTE(chaosdarkneo @ Oct 5 2011, 02:11 AM)
The Wii dies in about 7-8 months from having WiiConnect24 on and overheating the Wii.
my 2 year old wii seems to disagree with that bullshit
...and my brothers launch wii
...and my sisters launch wii

ever wondered how many components are on the wii pcb that could fail over time?
smile.gif

That still leaves the question then of why do the hacks prevent the Wii from proper standby and is there any other potential problems from this (not from WC24 in general but related to the video not turning off)?

I would like to see some actual results for the supposed overheating problem though so if a few of you have probes please do get some actual statistical information. It occurs to me that there could be a few reasons for the systems to overheat:
A problem with certain models (perhaps some models have less airflow or something or have cheaper components).

Also possible as I stated earlier is that people might not be storing them right, if you pull your Wii out for example when you play but have it stored in tight quarters when your not playing obviously WC24 would turn the wii on while in those tight quarters.

Environmental differences also need to be looked at; I'm in an area where the weather can range anywhere from -10F to 90F, storage area (my house) probably goes from 40F to 95F, with an average of 60F. The area is mildly to severely humid. If a Wii were to be used in a desert area it would probably overheat much easier and in an area of extreme cold the components could become brittle as they quickly heat and cool down between uses. High humidity can result in oxidization or in extreme circumstances a short circuit. In all likelihood nobody keeps their Wii's in any of the extremes but the environment can still play a big role.

I also imagine how often the system is played can be a factor and believe it or not electronics don't always keep better when they aren't used. Sometimes if a device isn't used it won't have a chance to get rid of dust on it's own (I'm not really sure how exactly dust gets removed but I have seen computers of similar design kept in similar conditions where the one that was used was cleaner than the other [and neither was manually cleaned], best guess is that it's a combination of the EM fields around the device and the devices fans that keep it clean).
 
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