Star Trek: Discovery

[FAST6191]

You reckon? Any real promise for me faded about 6 episodes in and now it is a dull slog for me. The science has been bad and getting worse, the writing and direction not much better.

I probably will finish this series which is better than I did for stargate universe and the last attempt at a TV reboot of startrek. I don't even think it is that the expanse did for me what the wire did for crime shows.

 

[Veho]

I don't even think it is that the expanse did for me what the wire did for crime shows.

What did it do?

 

[FAST6191]

After watching the wire (13 or so episodes a series, one main case for the entire thing, slow and methodical and quite detailed, not so far off the expanse so far) trying to watch a case of the week crime drama like CSI or something became quite hard and I have not really bothered with such things since.

 

[Veho]

I see what you mean.

The problem with series with an ongoing story is that they run a very high risk of turning into genre-flavored soap operas. Very very few have a full story with an ending in mind at the start, and then just tell it. The rest just meander away.

The monster/alien/murder-of-the-week format is usually formulaic but it's more flexible in the way of story arcs and avoiding writing yourself into a corner, and I also appreciate the fact I can just jump in anywhere and watch without missing a beat or needing to watch two seasons of buildup to be able to pick up the story.

And as for Star Trek, I'm a TNG baby and expect them to "explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations" and not just mooch around the same backyard for years, meet one new civilization and then turn into space-flavored Dawson's Creek. This is why I disliked Deep Space Nine (AKA "Star Stay-In-One-Place").

 

[FAST6191]

I mostly only ever saw TNG and some of Voyager (never saw the start, saw the middle few ones, not from about three quarters, and then the finale arc before now). Saw a few in my post wire days as well, still did OK.

Possibly also a problem is I spent the last however many months listening to https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZFipeZtQM5CKUjx6grh54g

That said as mentioned I can still go in for a bit of fluff like Dark Matter and Killjoys.

I think in some ways the science is a bit too soft for me. I does not all have to be Shane Carruth (guy that did Primer) but something at least attempting some measure of consistency. The former star trek things I did see seemed like they did better.

Spoiler: for end of last episode and thus fairly big reveal

End of last episode. Ignoring that somehow comms protocols don't use quantum randomness for signing and thus they can fake it like an old timey pirate ship running a false flag there is apparently "a single biological difference of a fairly notable sensitivity to light in humans, presumably species wide" and that would somehow not change civilisation notably? Have you not seen ginger people?

The last thing this happened to me in, sci fi show wise anyway, was Stargate Universe. Love me some stargate and atlantis was not bad either, could not do universe. Was better than infinity though.

As far as "jump right in" I am not sure this is suited to it either.

If this seems disjointed it is because my thoughts on it are somewhat. It is like monster hunter -- on paper I should really like it but the reality is not something which gels for me and unlike most other times I am struggling to articulate exactly why.

 

[Lemmingz]

I've watched a few episodes, not sure if I'm really into it yet

 

[MisterSteak]

I've been pretty pleased with it so far. It's no DS9, and it honestly doesn't feel super Star Trek overall to me, but I'm enjoying it quite a bit.

It has its corny moments, but I'm going to continue watching it for sure.

 

[LightyKD]

I've been pretty pleased with it so far. It's no DS9, and it honestly doesn't feel super Star Trek overall to me, but I'm enjoying it quite a bit.

It has its corny moments, but I'm going to continue watching it for sure.

I'm loving Discovery. You're right it's no DS9 and right now my top in order are

- Enterprise (I know it gets a lot of hate but it captures the soul of Trek the most)
- DS9 (If I can be half the dad that Sisko is, that would be an accomplishment. As a kid Sisko was MY captain)
- Discovery (I Absolutely LOVE Burnham and Tilly)

...all stated, Discovery shows a lot of promise. I love that every episode is connected. Sure some elements of the first season was rushed but these things can be fixed. I really hope that we get the actors for Kelvin Spock and Pike next season for no more than three episodes. i'm sure the actors have other projects that they are working on but , Discovery shouldn't have too much focus on the 1701 anyway. Ugh! 2019 cant get here fast enough lol!

 

[Smoker1]

Going to love to know when Season 02 will come out. Hopefully not the end of the Year. LOVE how the Enterprise looks
Seriously want the Model when/if it comes out

 

[LightyKD]

Going to love to know when Season 02 will come out. Hopefully not the end of the Year. LOVE how the Enterprise looks
Seriously want the Model when/if it comes out
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Agreed. I was considering getting the classic Enterprise but I really hope Diamond Select makes 1 foot models of Discovery, the 1701 and the Shenzhou. It would be even better if hey could scale the three ships based on their model of the NX-01 (which I have). It might make the 23rd century ships bigger but well worth the price!

 

[Smoker1]

Well, I would want to rig it with Lights . Did these Years ago. Only thing I did not like is the Enterprise D Model had differences. The Impulse Engines are supposed to be Red on the Saucer, but the Model has them as Blue. Also, the Section in front of the Captain's Yacht, there is supposed to be Windows, but the Model does not have it.