Sony PS3 rootkit rumours rubbished

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  1. Nujui
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    Suggestions that Sony has added a rootkit with the latest firmware update to its PS3 console have been denounced as bunkum by a leading gaming security expert, Chis Boyd, a security researcher at GFI Security who has studied the security of online games for several years, points out the development is not new since Sony wrote the ability for it to do remote updates into its terms and conditions since at least 2006.

    "It's been known for a while that a networked PS3 will contact Sony servers at start up (whether it has an active PlayStation network account on it or not), which performs various tasks related to error logs, updates and other activities," Boyd (aka Paperghost) told El Reg.
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    I wish I could link to the ps3hax one, but appearently I can't get on there for some reason.
     


  2. raulpica

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    This guy has TOTALLY missed the point.

    Error 1:
    Yes, because you're _arbitrarily_ deciding to run that code. If a console maker shoves it inside your throat, well, then that's a completely different thing.
     
  3. Nujui
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    I know right? He missed it completly.
     
  4. raulpica

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    Kinda expanded on my views by editing the previous post [​IMG]
     
  5. famousginni

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    Sony can be annoying at times :S
     
  6. M[u]ddy

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    Actually that's only partially true. A rootkit is a backdoor and if Sony really integrated one, this would mean that hackers could use it, too.
    What if someone decides to prove how dangerous the rootkit is and starts to randomly brick consoles?
     
  7. jumpman17

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    Especially when the updates are known to break the system and Sony says tough crap, pay us to fix it.
     
  8. raulpica

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    Sure, but then that would be Sony's fault for introducing the hole in the first place.
    And I at least expect them to do that function decently, maybe doing it server-side, just to be safe.

    And most console hackers luckily aren't interested in bricking others' consoles [​IMG]
     
  9. Rydian

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    The problem is everybody using the word "rootkit" when it does NOT apply to this situation AT ALL.

    This security expert is going off the idea that everything thinks it's a rootkit, and unlike everybody else he's using the actual definition of what a rootkit is and does.

    I don't know why people used the word rootkit in the first place.
     
  10. ShadowSoldier

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    Remember Super Nintendo and Nintendo 64? Remember when that had a bunch of security issues because of online gaming? Remember when we worried that Nintendo is going to force an update for the 64 that required the expansion pack?.... Oh... wait.
     
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    The guy used it, so the guy's wrong in using it [​IMG]
     
  12. twiztidsinz

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    Essentially you, the user, would be the administrator. By having it update without notification or indication it is hiding it's presence and subverting standard functionality (which would be asking to update).


    And Sony is no stranger to Rootkits:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy...rootkit_scandal
     
  13. Rydian

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    As the article mentioned it's a negative connotation associated with lack of permission and malware, that's what the guy was busting.
     
  14. Nujui
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    Sorry, the computer I was on didn't show all of what you said(Laptops suck somtimes.)
     
  15. shakirmoledina

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    is this not against the law? privately sending info about the user and possibly making the ps3 for a user vulnerable?
     
  16. Rydian

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    No. That's what people feared by the of the word "rootkit", but it's not the correct usage.
     
  17. Joe88

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    not sure why you are comparing systems from 20 & 14 years ago...

    unless you are just trolling >_>
     
  18. Jamstruth

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    I don't get it...


    Anyway. The Rootkit thing. Its a way for Sony to ban consoles (y'know like Microsoft can on the 360) so why its such a big deal I don't know. They're protecting their platform or putting on a show that they are so Devs won't be scared away by threat of rampant piracy. I really hope they encrypted that backdoor properly otherwise some nasty could start a PS3 virus chain.
     
  19. ShadowSoldier

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    I'm talking about the whole online thing and problems people have with it with these generations of consoles, and how with the N64/Playstation or the SNES, didn't have any worries or anything like this to worry about.
     
  20. cwstjdenobs

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    This is the thing, I haven't agreed to any TOS and the system sends the data you agree to when you accept the TOS if you have or not.