Hacking So there's this go exploit...

[jamieyello]

What's stopping us from cracking the whole system open with no Gateway or ninjhax? Just have the homebrew channel and everything else right there on the sd card.

 

[ubergeek77]

We have this already, but for 4.2 - 4.5. No one has made a "CFW" for 9.2 yet, and it isn't likely anything like that will be released.

As for the Homebrew Launcher, due to the nature of how it works, it will never be in a format that can be installed to the menu. Ninjhax is very unique in how it executes code, and while someone can write a new Homebrew Launcher, it won't be the same.

Nothing is stopping us. Just not a lot of people have the knowledge to develop at this level -- those who do either don't see the benefit of it, or simply don't want to be bothered with it; it's very complicated.

 

[HELPMEPLEASEOMG]

Too many moralfriends on the 3DS scene.

If the Wii/Sony scene guys were on the 3DS, they probably would've had free CFW/exploit running going quite a while ago

 

[shinyquagsire23]

What's stopping us from cracking the whole system open with no Gateway or ninjhax? Just have the homebrew channel and everything else right there on the sd card.

Basically in a nutshell, people actually doing it. smea probably isn't going to do it any time soon, and any other CFW which is being developed will most likely remain private like the 4.5 CFW was supposed to. yifanlu actually has helped quite a bit by reversing the initial stages and exploits of Gateway's launching stuff, but now the problem is actually implementing a CFW from these kernel exploits. I'm personally guessing the best bet we have at implementing anything like that is to reverse the existing CFW instead of Gateway's solution, only because Gateway's thing is hidden behind a crapton of obfuscation (weird MIPS VM, random obfuscation in code, etc), whereas the CFW launcher is probably a lot more open (comparatively).

 

[Xzi]

We have this already, but for 4.2 - 4.5. No one has made a "CFW" for 9.2 yet, and it isn't likely anything like that will be released.

As for the Homebrew Launcher, due to the nature of how it works, it will never be in a format that can be installed to the menu. Ninjhax is very unique in how it executes code, and while someone can write a new Homebrew Launcher, it won't be the same.

Nothing is stopping us. Just not a lot of people have the knowledge to develop at this level -- those who do either don't see the benefit of it, or simply don't want to be bothered with it; it's very complicated.

Hmm, shouldn't be that complicated to go from a 4.2 - 4.5 CFW and make it compatible with a firmware update. Specifically 9.4. Basically would just be emuNAND recreated in CFW form.

Well, I'm lying. It would be very complicated, what with needing to sign 7.x keys and all that shenanigans. That said, somebody could use a 9.4 emuNAND backup and learn a lot from studying how that is coded.

 

[ubergeek77]

Hmm, shouldn't be that complicated to go from a 4.2 - 4.5 CFW and make it compatible with a firmware update. Specifically 9.4. Basically would just be emuNAND recreated in CFW form.

Well, I'm lying. It would be very complicated, what with needing to sign 7.x keys and all that shenanigans. That said, somebody could use a 9.4 emuNAND backup and learn a lot from studying how that is coded.

If it really were that simple, I promise it would have been done by now. The most glaring issue right now is save encryption and AGB_FIRM. It's entirely possible to make a 9.4 CFW, but we can't load it with the 6.0 keys necessary to decrypt saves, and we can't (yet) load a CFW without it breaking AGB_FIRM, which it uses to emulate the ambassador GBA games.