Should I downgrade?

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  1. YourHero
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    I have a n3ds coming with 9.6fw confirmed. I have a GW and plan to use it regardless, just because I've had it for years now. Do I need to downgrade or can I just avoid it? I kind of hate doing these kinds of things. I'm reading I can boot GW on 10.7 now? Or maybe that is wrong.
     
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    You MUST downgrade. GW *can* boot on 10.7 SysNAND - A9LHaxxed 10.7 SysNAND.
     
  3. YourHero
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    Ok well I really don't plan on that, so I will downgrade then. I should have it next week.
     
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    You have to downgrade it no matter what. "Traditional" Gateway only works on 9.2. You're best off following the Plailect guide in its entirety then getting Gateway to work with it (you'll be able to either autoboot Gateway or hold a button down on boot to launch it, whichever you choose). If you don't want to do a9lh then just follow the downgrading part and set up menuhax to autoboot Gateway emuNAND. Whatever you do, don't use the Gateway a9lh guide as it skips important safety steps meaning you're at a high risk of brick, and even if you succeed then you will no longer be able to start up your console without the Gateway card. If Gateway ever stop updating or your card breaks, your console would be as good as a brick.
     
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    uh, if you're going to downgrade, just follow Plailect's guide and set up A9LH. I mean, if you're downgrading to 9.2, you might as well follow the guide and finish the thing. If you get A9LH, you won't need to worry about anything else.
     
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    I was going to just downgrade to 9.2 with broserhax. If I'm reading correctly it works on 10.5 and lower consoles. But depending on how much trouble it is, I'll try it. I really don't want to mess this 3ds up as it is a capture card modded N3DS.

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    Ok I'm reading menuhax will work on 9.6 as well as using browserhax to install. So why should I risk all this downgrade?
     
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    Are you trying to use GW CFW, or Luma3DS CFW? You need to be on 9.0-9.2 to even use these.
     
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    I'm trying to use my gateway on a N3DS that has 9.6. I never had to do any of this crap previously because my old 3DS just never upgraded from 9.2. And I'm reading that menuhax works on 9.6, and browserhax works on 9.6. So I don't see why I couldn't just boot the GW on 9.6 via CtrBootmanager after menuhax is installed.
     
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    Menuhax works, but there's no ARM9 kernel exploit. No CFW's can be used without ARM9 access.

    Just follow the whole Plailect guide, including A9LH, it's easy, and it'll give you the best possible outcome, you won't need to bother about anything after that.
     
  10. Temptress Cerise

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    And if you still don't believe us, why don't you go ahead and try it out, and let us know how it goes.
     
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    Thank you for some actual information, not just mindless HURRDURR A9LH. So I've looked for this guide and thus far I do not see it on GBA temp.

    Would this be it? https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki/Part-1-(Homebrew)
     
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    https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki
     
  13. Temptress Cerise

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    Not sure how I was being HURRDURR A9LH. Maybe the posters before me. But I was telling you, to even use GW CFW or Luma3DS you need 9.0-9.2, to even setup a proper menuhax+rednand//emunand config.

    If you got the A9LH route, that's a whole another thing, and that one does still require 9.0-9.2.

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    You can use menuhax to boot the homebrew launcher, and only run regular userland homebrew on >9.2. Doing anything else requires arm9 access which you can't get unless you're on 9.2 or less.
     
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    You were not giving any actual information. It was more like peer pressure into doing something. You just told me I HAVE to do it when I presented information about not needing it, and then someone finally gave me the reason why. Thats what I wanted. I need warrant to possibly have 11.0+ fw on this 3DS. And the worst case is I have to upgrade it to a FW I cannot downgrade. It sucks, but oh well.

    So I'm reading as long as I reformat it before downgrade I should be ok. It would suck to have to open my Mh4U copy to play it.
     
  16. Temptress Cerise

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    Except, I needed to know why you were even considering downgrading, or what your end goal was.

    If userland homebrew was all you cared about, I would have presented you with that info as well. Though on stock 11.0, your only option is basically Freakyhax.

    Again, I can't help people properly, if they don't explain what it is they want to do. Saying, "I can use menuhax so why can't I use that?", isn't very enough information, for all I know you may be one of the users that just wants userland homebrew, and there are people that just enjoy that and don't want to bother with CFW.
     
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    Stupid question, couldn't happen in a million years. If...IF, this gets messed up and I have to do the recovery upgrade to 11.0, can I systransfer my emunand to it WHICH HAS FREAKYFORMS DIGITAL? Would that save my life? Does it work on 11.0?

    And also in the OP I said plainly I want to use GW on my N3DS. Hard to miss. The information that ARM9 access is needed for emunand was absent for everything I read.
     
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    Anyways, yes, formatting prior to downgrade does improve your chances of not getting a soft-brick.

    You need Freakyforms Deluxe Digital, and it has to have been bought properly off the eshop, dirty tickets do not system transfer.

    However, so long as you do a system format prior to the downgrade you shouldn't soft-brick on the downgrade.

    Edit: Also, Freakyhax is only going to provide userland on an 11.0 system.
     
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    Yeah, most things will work till 9.8. Just look up the guide "Homebrew launcher on boot" and follow the guide. At that point you can do the nand backup etc... If you want ah9l I think it was set up that you need 9.2.
     
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  22. YourHero
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    Yea yea I got that, thanks. And my copy is legit. Purchased it back when FW was like 7.x.

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    I'm just going to downgrade to 9.2 and use menuhax+GW. I really don't think I need A9LH or anything else. I just want my GW to work and to be able to use CIA.

    Thanks for all the help!
     
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