[Rumor] WiikeÜ ?

[JoostinOnline]

Piracy didn't kill 3rd party support on the PS3 or Xbox 360.

But they already had good relationships with 3rd party companies. Nintendo is trying to develop them.

 

[Foxi4]

But they already had good relationships with 3rd party companies. Nintendo is trying to develop them.

...let's not forget the fact that the WiiU is the odd-one-out this generation - it's the only non-x86 console and the only one that merely plays the "catch up with lastgen" game - developers have their right to be slightly reserved when it comes to development for it, with or without piracy in the picture.

 

[Carnivean]

But they already had good relationships with 3rd party companies. Nintendo is trying to develop them.

You are also forgetting that piracy was possible for a majority of the Xbox, PS1 and PS2 lifespans. Third parties do not go to Nintendo consoles because of the preconception that they are for children, not because of piracy.

 

[the_randomizer]

...let's not forget the fact that the WiiU is the odd-one-out this generation - it's the only non-x86 console and the only one that merely plays the "catch up with lastgen" game - developers have their right to be slightly reserved when it comes to development for it, with or without piracy in the picture.

x86 makes a console better?

 

[Lakerfanalways]

I read on another forum that you have to extract they key in order to get this to work..I guess it all depends on what firmware is required for this, since I already updated my Wii U this might be a total waste of time since it might not work

 

[Gahars]

x86 makes a console better?

Easier and more convenient to develop for (especially when it comes to multiplatform titles), which is kind of (you know, just a bit) enticing for developers.

 

[Maxternal]

x86 makes a console better?

No, it just makes it different which which just makes it a little harder to bridge that difference when porting something.

 

[Foxi4]

x86 makes a console better?

You misunderstood. The developer has the option of developing simultaneously for the PS4, XBox 720 and the PC with very little optimisation or developing for Nintendo's proprietary hardware. Oh gee whiz, I wonder which of those options entails bigger profits with less effort and costs.

 

[FAST6191]

[Disc pressing vs ROM costs] That's the underlying issue. When optical media can cost less than a dollar compared to flash memory which will cost significantly more. Lego City Undercover is around 20GB, I'd be curious in how much it would cost to produce cartridge versions.

OK I got curious so I went looking.

http://www.pure-music.co.uk/dvd-manufacturing-costs/dvd-disc-only/
DVD disc only run of 2000 is £790.00 or just shy of 40 pence a disc. Granted that is a tiny run but for the sake of argument can we say full DVD, case and all is not that much worse for the far higher volumes seen with games?
http://www.pacificdisc.com/PricingBluRay.html has blu ray though and that pumps the price up a bit (1000 discs is 2.55 USD a disc plus setup costs). Not sure if we are quite competitive yet but I will run with it. More than I thought it would be as well and I might have accidentally included BD security licensing costs in the mix.

It seems the mask rom stuff has dropped off in recent years and what remains (at least open to my basic search) is almost exclusively for integrated circuits where more than about 50 megs of space is insane. http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/mask-rom.html has fractional sizes about in line or even a bit less than BD. This is also fairly low output (10K pcs a week) compared to what I imagine games will be need.

Switching over to NAND to see if I can pump the space up a bit.
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/556428706/Potevio_Taiwan_16GB_32GB_COB_Board.html
1 million a month at the sizes required and prices seemingly in line with the BD above (1.5 dollars to 7.5 dollars, no idea on the split).

That is just for the chips though and assembly will need to be added on top. Sadly I could not find any decent bill of materials breakdowns for relevant devices as that would have been nice, I did not look that hard though.

Still a case might be made at this point.

 

[Supercool330]

My real hope here is that the release of a piracy only device will prompt fail0verflow to release their hack which will enable homebrew (I think the homebrew potential on the Wii U is really interesting), much like the hardware hacks for the ps3 did.

 

[the_randomizer]

Easier and more convenient to develop for (especially when it comes to multiplatform titles), which is kind of (you know, just a bit) enticing for developers.

Gee, and to think that games were vital. Guess not.

 

[Gahars]

Gee, and to think that games were vital. Guess not.

...Developers develop games. You know that, right?

 

[JoostinOnline]

...Developers develop games. You know that, right?

mind = blown

 

[VashTS]

the wii u has games? I was not aware of this.

 

[WiiUBricker]

Yeah, that worked well for the N64....oh wait. 64 MB of limited space with only 4-8 KB of texture cache and 120,000 polygons/second. Sounds good!

I don't know if you have noticed. Technology has evolved in the past 17 years.

 

[the_randomizer]

...Developers develop games. You know that, right?

They do?! When did this happen!?

 

[nukeboy95]

They do?! When did this happen!?

I think last week or soo

 

[JoostinOnline]

the wii u has games? i was not aware of this.

What an original joke. Haven't heard that one a million times for the Wii U and a billion for the Wii.

 

[Ericthegreat]

Really? Hacking == Piracy?

GBATemp of old was a hacking community for homebrew NOT a piracy board. This is talking about piracy plain and simple...

looks like this is not the forum I joined and had so much fun behind .

I think you need to read the history of gbatemp.

 

[JoostinOnline]

Really? Hacking == Piracy?

GBATemp of old was a hacking community for homebrew NOT a piracy board. This is talking about piracy plain and simple...

looks like this is not the forum I joined and had so much fun behind .

ROFL!!! This site was originally a warez host.