Rooting my phone and tablet.

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Jul 26, 2012
  1. NicknackMpogiatz
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    Hello gbatemp. I have an Xperia neo V and a lenovo idea pad k1 10.1 and i want the easiest and safest way to root them. But i have a few questions tho.

    First of all, does rooting void my warranty?
    Second, if i root my phone can i install the sony rom if i want to?
    And third and last, what are the benefits of rooting and is there a jelly bean rom for neo v?

    Sorry for any language mistakes.
     
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    1. Yes, rooting your phone does void your warranty. But the cool thing is, if anything happens to your phone you can always go back to stock and then unroot it and no one will know.
    2. You can install any ROM compatible with your phone
    3. The benefits of rooting are a lot more customization options, the ability to remove bloatware installed by your carrier, ability to install other kernels which can give you overclocking/underclocking and more. I suggest checking out xda-developers.com as they have more information than any of us can provide, and they also have threads for the various custom ROMS for your phone.
     
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    Thanks a lot for the quick reply. I will check it out.
     
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    Rooting voids your warranty, yes. If you reflash the stock ROM and lock your BootLoader again there's no way for them to tell though.

    Rooting your phone is superfluous to flashing custom ROMs. Rooting just gives you more access to the phone allowing you to do things like edit the build.prop and giving apps more access to the phone to perform actions. You will only be able to flash ROMs designed for your phone (you couldn't flash a ROM for a phone with higher specs than yours for instance) but you can flash any region's ROM (e.g. if there's an ICS update in one region and not in yours)

    Here's the XDA-Developer's page for the Neo V. http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1450 There's a thread on Rooting your phone as well as custom ROMs. These will probably be pre-rooted. Flashing these voids your warranty as well btw. Make sure to note the exact name, build etc. of your ROM before flashing in case something goes wrong. Doesn't look like there's Jellybean though.
     
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    ...What? You do have to be rooted to flash a custom ROM.
     
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    No you don't. You do if you're going to flash it via ClockworkMod but you don't have to do that. You can just stick your phone into Download mode, download ODIN, a compatible ROM archive and the OPS file for your phone. Plug your phone in, Odin detects it, click flash. Boom, done!
     
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    Using Odin is almost never recommended. Doing so is dangerous and, apparently, has a higher chance of bricking than rooting/flashing. Besides, isn't Odin only for Samsung devices anyways?
     
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    Nope. You can have a custom ROM installed without rooting first. For example, on most HTC devices, the root method involves unlocking the bootloader, then using fastboot to flash a custom recovery (generally ClockworkMod, but it could also be TWRP), then boot into the custom recovery and flash a .ZIP to root the phone. You can easily replace that .ZIP with a custom ROM .ZIP and flash it from the custom recovery, no need to root first. The root that was there will be "lost" when installing the custom ROM anyway (pretty much all custom ROMs are rooted, so you don't really lose root, but the su binary that was present before installing the ROM will be gone, there'll be a new one put there afterwards)
     
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    THere's one for Sony phones called "FlashTool".
    There's no higher chance of things going wrong really. Bad download or a bad flash can happen on either device. I'd actually rather trust it to my computer than the device itself copying things from its own memory to write to its own memory. Its nowhere near as user friendly but I've never had a problem with it.
    It was the recommended method to install ROMs on my old Galaxy 3 phone. Nobody ever once referred to it as "dangerous". Any ROM flashing is dangerous and holds the possibility of soft-bricking your phone. If the flash fails recovery and fastboot are normally left alone so you can reattempt.
     
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    AFAIK both of those tools mentioned above (not sure about ODIN, I think that's a little different) temporarily rooted the device so it could install custom code (be it a ROM or whatever). Then again, I've never had to use any of those methods listed above when I rooted the last 6 or so devices I...uhh...rooted.


    EDIT: The point is, most devices need to be rooted in order to install custom ROMs while some can just use these tools, which may or may not temporarily root the device. ROOTY TOOT TOOT.
     
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    fastboot is a universal tool for (almost?) all Android devices. It can flash custom recovery, or custom boot.img (including custom kernel), or custom system.img (i.e. custom system partition, the bulk of a custom ROM), or a custom data.img, or even flash an update.zip (presumably including a custom ROM). It is an official Android tool, and it doesn't "temporarily root" the device. The device is loaded in fastboot mode, a mode where it will accept images being flashed to it's various partitions. Most commonly in the world of rooting, it is used to install a custom recovery, which can then flash custom .ZIPs, including custom ROMs or a root containing ZIP.
     
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    i thought linking to roms is illegal. ( Well maybe not android because its open source but that site has several different roms too.)
     
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    Android ROMs are not copyrighted, and linking to copyrighted material isn't really illegal either (it's the hosting of the content that is really illegal). It's against the rules of this forum, but that is not the same thing at all. But Android ROMs are not against the rules of the forum.
     
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    Guys, this shouldn't be a flamewar. He just asked 3 simple questions that are already answered!
     
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    and i asked 1 simple question.
     
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    ...what flamewar are you talking about?
     
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