PSP2 Price Leaked?

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No way is it going to cost $299. Its going to be at least 350 - 450. Why? Because if the 3DS with inferior specs and features is $250, then how on earth could they possibly sell the NGP at profit for just $50 more. Nintendo always sells their systems for profit, and Sony says they'll be selling at a profit this time. I just don't see them being able to sell a system that is essentially a miniaturized PS3 for a profit at that price. I refuse to believe that Nintendo created an inferior system if they could have created something like the NGP and still sold it at a reasonable price. Nintendo isn't stupid, and I doubt that they could have created more powerful hardware and still sold it reasonably. They learned from the PSP, and if they didn't release the best hardware they could at the affordable price point, then how can Sony sell their amazing hardware at just $50 more?!


Maedhros said:
RchUncleSkeleton said:
The PSP2 is ultra gimmicky with the back touchpad and such.
You said the same about the DS on the the lauch, right? =)

No, because I thought gaming with a touch screen was one of the greatest innovations on a handheld. I bought it at launch, and it was one of the best investment I had ever made.
 
Argentum Vir said:
No way is it going to cost $299. Its going to be at least 350 - 450. Why? Because if the 3DS with inferior specs and features is $250, then how on earth could they possibly sell the NGP at profit for just $50 more. Nintendo always sells their systems for profit, and Sony says they'll be selling at a profit this time. I just don't see them being able to sell a system that is essentially a miniaturized PS3 for a profit at that price. I refuse to believe that Nintendo created an inferior system if they could have created something like the NGP and still sold it at a reasonable price. Nintendo isn't stupid, and I doubt that they could have created more powerful hardware and still sold it reasonably. They learned from the PSP, and if they didn't release the best hardware they could at the affordable price point, then how can Sony sell their amazing hardware at just $50 more?!


Maedhros said:
RchUncleSkeleton said:
The PSP2 is ultra gimmicky with the back touchpad and such.
You said the same about the DS on the the lauch, right? =)

No, because I thought gaming with a touch screen was one of the greatest innovations on a handheld. I bought it at launch, and it was one of the best investment I had ever made.
Well, I didn't direct the question for you, but I had tought exactly the opposite and was prooved wrong, it worked (altougth only some games have great use of it).

The lesson is: never undertimate what a game company can do with a new input type (yeah, because the touchpad is a first on a portable console).

About the cost, nobody knows (besides Sony) how much it cost to manufacture this, yet, people try to... you can't affirm it'll or that it wont be. Even if you had a list with the price of all the components on NGP, you couldn't still bet what the price would be.

A lot of people are willing to pay for $300 on day one.
 
Argentum Vir said:
No way is it going to cost $299. Its going to be at least 350 - 450. Why? Because if the 3DS with inferior specs and features is $250, then how on earth could they possibly sell the NGP at profit for just $50 more. Nintendo always sells their systems for profit, and Sony says they'll be selling at a profit this time. I just don't see them being able to sell a system that is essentially a miniaturized PS3 for a profit at that price. I refuse to believe that Nintendo created an inferior system if they could have created something like the NGP and still sold it at a reasonable price. Nintendo isn't stupid, and I doubt that they could have created more powerful hardware and still sold it reasonably. They learned from the PSP, and if they didn't release the best hardware they could at the affordable price point, then how can Sony sell their amazing hardware at just $50 more?!


You're not an industry analyst. Stop making comments like one

So what if Nintendo sells their shit for a profit? Selling it for a loss and banking on software sales worked with the PS3 Slim, it's a reasonable technique to get a good price point on an expensive product and still get cash in the end.

"They learned from the PSP"? It's not like the PSP still sold 50 million units. That's a lot for any system.

If you think about it, odds are you'll get the NGP and buy probably two games. That'll probably cover the presumed loss on the system and once those games outweigh their product costs, it'll just be profit. Plus if they really push this digital distribution thing then they won't have to worry as much about physical media production costs.
 
Guild McCommunist said:
You're not an industry analyst. Stop making comments like one

So what if Nintendo sells their shit for a profit? Selling it for a loss and banking on software sales worked with the PS3 Slim, it's a reasonable technique to get a good price point on an expensive product and still get cash in the end.

"They learned from the PSP"? It's not like the PSP still sold 50 million units. That's a lot for any system.

If you think about it, odds are you'll get the NGP and buy probably two games. That'll probably cover the presumed loss on the system and once those games outweigh their product costs, it'll just be profit. Plus if they really push this digital distribution thing then they won't have to worry as much about physical media production costs.
I can make comments just like that last one when its justifiable. I should be saying, you aren't a fanboy, but you're making it extremely hard to keep that respect of you. You have not made a single bad NGP comment. You have nothing but praise. I see you bashing the 3DS every chance you get. Every. Single. Chance. I however can see the good and the bad with the 3DS, and I can barely tell anything about the NGP because when compared to the imminent 3DS release, we know NOTHING about the NGP. Also, industry analysts just speculate. Its not hard to do if you have half a brain, common sense, and a general idea of the area you're speculating. The thing is though, I will be holding the true judgment when I have both in my hands and experience both of them.

Odds are I will buy the NGP, but I won't be giving the profit to Sony, and I will only be getting it when Homebrew is enabled, or the inevitable huge price tag drops respectably. Also, as a poor college student, I can barely afford an internet connection that's just passable, so DLC and stuff is almost a big no from me. I'm lucky I can even afford internet.
 
Maedhros said:
It's not only graphics, all the components of the NGP are pratically better than 3DS, of course we would expect the price to be higher than 3DS. If Sony release it at this price, it'll be amazing for a lot of people (me included).
Yes because the components make the console obviously. The more expensive the parts the better it must be!
And its not news that Sony undercuts the sales price under the production price look at the PS3 so this whole deal isnt that amazing like everyone says it is. Its a sales plot in the end to try and trump Nintendo and by the looks of all you guys they are succeeding
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GundamXXX said:
Maedhros said:
It's not only graphics, all the components of the NGP are pratically better than 3DS, of course we would expect the price to be higher than 3DS. If Sony release it at this price, it'll be amazing for a lot of people (me included).
Yes because the components make the console obviously. The more expensive the parts the better it must be!
And its not news that Sony undercuts the sales price under the production price look at the PS3 so this whole deal isnt that amazing like everyone says it is. Its a sales plot in the end to try and trump Nintendo and by the looks of all you guys they are succeeding
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Sorry, but that has nothing to do with what you were talking about before. I NEVER said that better components equals a better console. I was talking only about price. You're just nitpicking now.

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@m3rox
It's funny, because people actually believes that Sony has put a rootkit on FW 3.56. And the source is similar. (PS3Hacks, great source).
 
Maedhros said:
GundamXXX said:
Maedhros said:
It's not only graphics, all the components of the NGP are pratically better than 3DS, of course we would expect the price to be higher than 3DS. If Sony release it at this price, it'll be amazing for a lot of people (me included).
Yes because the components make the console obviously. The more expensive the parts the better it must be!
And its not news that Sony undercuts the sales price under the production price look at the PS3 so this whole deal isnt that amazing like everyone says it is. Its a sales plot in the end to try and trump Nintendo and by the looks of all you guys they are succeeding
smile.gif
Sorry, but that has nothing to do with what you were talking about before. I NEVER said that better components equals a better console. I was talking only about price. You're just nitpicking now.
Gaming history would be a lot different if that were the case. *cough* Atari Jaguar *cough*
 
I wonder if they hit that point wikipedia mentions about OLEDs, that they can be cheaply manufactured. Might explain the surprisingly low price.
 
300 seems like a price range they'd sell it for. But 300 bucks can get me something more useful.

I need to be more cautious of money this time around. Owning a system costs money. I got my ps3 for 250 and ended up shelling out a total of about 750 system and all.
 
GundamXXX said:
Funny how people gladly pay 300 for this and complain about the 3DS being expensive

Contradict much?

Sony fanboys have always been hypocrites. (All fanboys are hypocrites but Sony fanboys are the worst.)

Just look at the Sony Move debacle. First they see the Wii and they're like "GIMMICK, SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS YO" then the Move is announced, and its identical to the Wii-mote, and suddenly its "OMG WII KILLER." It kind of makes you glad the thing bombed so massively.

Then Sony fans are like "TOUCH SCREEN GIMMICK F'ING LAME" and now they're like 'OMG TOUCH SCREEN COMPLETELY AWESOME INNOVASHUNS!!"

And the circle of life continues.

I really wonder what its going to be like as the Apple gaming community grows and slowly replaces the Sony fanbase. Will they be better than Sony fanboys or worse? Will they form nazi-like clicks like the SDF? Will they praise trolls like Chad Warden as their hereos? Only time will tell...

Oh yeah, back on topic, basically you're spending at least $375 to buy a PSP2 and one game. Tax included. And that doesn't include cost of accessories. (Like a case which is vital.) So yeah. this thing aint cheap.

Life goes on...
 
SPH73 said:
GundamXXX said:
Funny how people gladly pay 300 for this and complain about the 3DS being expensive

Contradict much?

Sony fanboys have always been hypocrites. (All fanboys are hypocrites but Sony fanboys are the worst.)

Just look at the Sony Move debacle. First they see the Wii and they're like "GIMMICK, SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS YO" then the Move is announced, and its identical to the Wii-mote, and suddenly its "OMG WII KILLER." It kind of makes you glad the thing bombed so massively.

Then Sony fans are like "TOUCH SCREEN GIMMICK F'ING LAME" and now they're like 'OMG TOUCH SCREEN COMPLETELY AWESOME INNOVASHUNS!!"

And the circle of life continues.

I really wonder what its going to be like as the Apple gaming community grows and slowly replaces the Sony fanbase. Will they be better than Sony fanboys or worse? Will they form nazi-like clicks like the SDF? Will they praise trolls like Chad Warden as their hereos? Only time will tell...

Oh yeah, back on topic, basically you're spending at least $375 to buy a PSP2 and one game. Tax included. And that doesn't include cost of accessories. (Like a case which is vital.) So yeah. this thing aint cheap.

Life goes on...
Like you said, there are retards on every fanbase. I could quote some ridiculous things said everywhere here, but who cares? I'll not feed this trolling.
 
GundamXXX said:
Maedhros said:
It's not only graphics, all the components of the NGP are pratically better than 3DS, of course we would expect the price to be higher than 3DS. If Sony release it at this price, it'll be amazing for a lot of people (me included).
Yes because the components make the console obviously. The more expensive the parts the better it must be!
And its not news that Sony undercuts the sales price under the production price look at the PS3 so this whole deal isnt that amazing like everyone says it is. Its a sales plot in the end to try and trump Nintendo and by the looks of all you guys they are succeeding
smile.gif

Actually it's just a "plot" to make a profit. Jesus Christ, are really trying to turn a company trying to make money as an anti-Nintendo conspiracy?
 
I think 300 IS believable considering GO was priced at 250, And $250 for a 3DS is not bad by any means (£155), £230 was and that's the reason I was bitching, 3DS being priced around $100 more just because its in Europe with high taxes, shops wanting to make a tidy 30% etc.
Still, can't buy until 2012/13 for lack of funds and job
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And it's not the hardware that I would go for and pay more money over 3DS for, it's the games.
The quality of PSP games over DS games (Length, gameplay, visuals, everything) was astounding. I just think that a game on an NGP will last me more than twice as long as a game on a 3DS might. You can't deny that 3DS is going to get pummeled with shovelware...
 

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