Okay, this is actually a question, not a debate. Here's the dilemma... As many of you know, it's my birthday today and I'm getting cash rolling in from family and even from working (well, that's not birthday related). At the moment I have around $150, with two jobs coming up next week (which should pay roughly $30-$40 each) as well as more birthday money or whatever coming later today. And as many of you also may know, I want a fucking HD console. I'm torn between a PS3 and 360. Here's some of my pros and cons... PS3 Pros... - Exclusives I would like more. God of War III, MGS4, LittleBigPlanet, Uncharted, etc. - No red ring like the Xbox 360! Although my friend has said he's had to do system restores on his PS3 at least twice in its full lifetime due to other issues, but he also has a launch model and not a slim. - Equally sold multiplatform games. Not too keen on CoD or Battlefield Bad Company, but I do love Rainbow Six Vegas games (when I played them a little on the 360) and there's also other ones. Cons... - Slim model costs $300, plus the price of games. I can get a standard Xbox model for $200. - No Perfect Dark! This may sound like nitpicking but I would seriously buy a Xbox purely for Perfect Dark XBLA. It's the best FPS game ever (fuck Goldeneye!) Xbox 360 Pros... - Cheaper! I can get the super-uber edition Xbox (the Elite) for the same price as the toned down, weaker version of the PS3 (Slim). Standard Xbox models go for $200 too! - Perfect Dark! Read my above thing in the cons - All my friends have one, almost none have a PS3. My brother also has one. - Some good exclusives. Mass Effect, a better version of The Orange Box (compared to the PS3), Gears of War, Left 4 Dead, etc. - Still has good multiplatform titles. Assassin's Creed, Arkham Asylum, Rainbow Six, etc - Better downloadable games? I still haven't looked thoroughly into the PS3's selection, but this has Perfect Dark (already mentioned), Puzzle Quest, Castle Crashers, etc. Cons... - Red Ring of Death! Not sure if this affects Elite models. I don't want it to break down and be forced to send it in for repairs. - Not nearly as good exclusives as the PS3. Halo is good but just not for me, etc. - My brother already has one. It seems kinda redundant to keep two in one house, although it is HIS system and what not. - Pay for Live! I don't want to pay $60 or so a year for online play.