Hacking Preloader Vs. Starfall

[monkey04]

Is it ok if we have both of them installed at the same time or should i unistall starfall and keep preloader or can i just keep both. Which is better!

 

[Golfman560]

Both can go together and both do somewhat different things. Its best to just have them both incase something happens.

 

[dmonkey21]

Most people prefer preloader. There are more features and unlike with Starfall, TP is not required for recovery. The only reason I would stay away from it is that I have experienced with all versions of preloader that It makes my Wii start up much slower and reboot from a channel to System Menu much slower. Also, during these slow loading times my Wii remotes turn off frequently, and it is a hassle to have keep hitting the A button and wait for it to startup every time I leave a channel. I seem to be the only person I know of to experience this lag, at least from the posts on GBATemp, and it is only a few seconds of lag anyway, so if you really like preloader's features I suggest using it, although there is really no reason not to have Starfall installed as well.

 

[SirTempest]

do they use different techniques to save your wii from bricks? and which one brings the highest anti brick safety?

 

[Golfman560]

Right now both are the same at anti-brick safety, however Preloader makes it much easier to recover from a brick.

 

[games2007]

Most people prefer preloader. There are more features and unlike with Starfall, TP is not required for recovery. The only reason I would stay away from it is that I have experienced with all versions of preloader that It makes my Wii start up much slower and reboot from a channel to System Menu much slower. Also, during these slow loading times my Wii remotes turn off frequently, and it is a hassle to have keep hitting the A button and wait for it to startup every time I leave a channel. I seem to be the only person I know of to experience this lag, at least from the posts on GBATemp, and it is only a few seconds of lag anyway, so if you really like preloader's features I suggest using it, although there is really no reason not to have Starfall installed as well.

I experience this lag with the Preloader too!
It's not that bad though, but when I select a channel, it takes about 2-3 seconds to load it. It only happens once, then the channels load fine. My wiimote turns off on me randomly and starts being gay, but that's mostly during some homebrew apps such as the game save extractor/installer, so I have to press the Reset button on the Wii to continue with the process.

 

[kedest]

With preloader it's much easier to recover from a brick. You can just boot directly to HBC and run wad manager from there for example.
Starfall requires you to have Twilight Princess and the twilight hack still on the system's nand

 

[dmonkey21]

do they use different techniques to save your wii from bricks? and which one brings the highest anti brick safety?
With preloader, you can just tell the Wii to boot to the preloader menu on startup by holding reset when you power on, and then go to the HBC from there, and then run Wad Manger to recover from a brick. With starfall, you must make the Wii boot to the built in recovery menu by pressing Y on the 1st GC controller, putting in TP, and using TP Hack to use Wad Manger and recover from the brick. So, if you have TP Hack, both will come to pretty much the same result, but with preloader you can load many different Homebrews, although you will most like only use Wad manager to recover from bricks. If you don't have either installed and don't experience the lag that I did or aren't bothered by it, install both and then use preloader for recover, because it does have higher 'brick protection', in that there are many more ways you can get Homebrew up and running even if you can't access the System Menu.

QUOTE(games2007 @ Feb 22 2009, 05:28 PM) I experience this lag with the Preloader too!
It's not that bad though, but when I select a channel, it takes about 2-3 seconds to load it. It only happens once, then the channels load fine. My wiimote turns off on me randomly and starts being gay, but that's mostly during some homebrew apps such as the game save extractor/installer, so I have to press the Reset button on the Wii to continue with the process.

Ya, it's only a few seconds, but it really annoyed me and since I can just use Starfall I uninstalled it lol. I also experienced some problems with the Wii restarting when I shut it off with the Wiimote, or it not being able to go into standby correctly and restarting instead, which was really annoying because I would always have to wait a while to make sure it was really off, or hold down the power button to completely shutoff the Wii. I heard they fixed it and the last version I used for more than like 10 minutes was .25, so I guess it's not really relevant anymore.

 

[Stephanie]

My understanding is that both are pretty much the same, but Preloader boots earlier if you choose it to do so; which is better incase of any bricking that may happen. Though Starfall is easer to choose what options you want for your Wii. Preloader is nice, but it seems to disable a few other things. There is slower Menu booting as previously said, there's also no way to keep the disc from spinning unless you enable 'Ignore Standby' option. Minor bugs to me.

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~Steph

 

[SirTempest]

the need of twilight princess and the need of the savegame are no problems, i have the game and i have the savegame. as i have never heared of problems with starfall, i think i will choose it. thanks a lot for all your infos

 

[dmonkey21]

Glad we could help

Feel free to PM me if you have any more questions about it.