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Not funny. Makes me sad.

While a general "Everything used to be better!" isn't a reasonable point of view, there is loss of durability in many everyday products.
Toasters are a good example. The heating coils are often needlessly thin and will burn through at the thinnest point. No, there is no worthwhile way of repairing a simple toaster. It is toast at this point. On my previous toaster, there were a lot of points in the coils that were thinner than the rest – and one of them suddenly went poof after just three years and a bit. Strangely the toaster had a three year warranty. Some coincidence, huh?

No matter if small things like toaster, kettle, hand mixer or big things like washing machine, dryer and such: The average time they last became shorter. Plastic replaced metal. The consumer doesn't have much of a choice. The often heard "You get what you paid for!" statement couldn't be more wrong than it is. The price rarely (there are some exceptions) makes a difference.¹

Funny enough some years ago somebody opened canned bread dating back to World War II: It was like new (in contrast to toast lying around openly). Just what I would expect from a good an undamaged can. The seal of the flimsy bread cans available now surely won't last multiple decades.



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Sad. [YouTube] IDIOCRACY Opening Scene (starting at second 61)

*Walks to the attic and opens window*
*Takes a deep breath and looks outside*


I can see her. She looks just like the actress… and has plenty of kids.
This formally absurd movie has turned into a f…ing documentation.
Idiocracy is a modern classic.
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This formally absurd movie has turned into a f…ing documentation.
No. It is a piece of satire that has unfortunately become a talking point by eugenicists and libertarians and edgelords (but I repeat myself), but it's simply not true. The opening joke is just that, a joke.
 
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No. It is a piece of satire that has unfortunately become a talking point by eugenicists and libertarians and edgelords (but I repeat myself), but it's simply not true. The opening joke is just that, a joke.
I disagree on this.
The opening "joke" is just not a joke (anymore). It is a precise presentation of what I can see around me. Where is the joke? I literally see it by just opening the window on the attic and looking out. Leaving the house and walking down the streets I can find many(!) more instances in the near(!) neighborhood.
Not sure what the word edgelord is supposed to mean, but I guess it is some kind of generalizing, categorizing and negative attribute that can be stamped on a person (Maybe to disregard their statements across the board without actually invalidate anything in particular? I really don't know and I do not want to research this right now.)

Bringing in eugenicists as a killer argument against this movie is trite and lame. *Yawn*

Please take in account that the world is not the same everywhere. Maybe you have a better environment of people around you. If so: That's awesome (nor sarcasm!) I can only speak for my area. I have experienced scenes from that movie. Literally witnessed parts of that movie in reality.

Satirists generally have a hard time nowadays. What has formally been absurd exaggeration gets lapped by reality.
 
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I disagree on this.
Feel free to do so.

I wasn't dismissing the entire movie - there are some things that it does right, and a fair few of the jokes are doing what they're supposed to, holding a large funhouse mirror to reality - I am criticizing the opening scene, the one you posted.

It plays on the idea that intelligence is 100% genetics and not largely impacted by external factors - a very common argument in eugenics.
It plays on the idea that the level of education is 100% related to intelligence and not availability/accessibility of education and other factors - a very common libertarian argument.
It plays on the idea that the family size / number of offspring is dictated by intelligence and education and not by existential stability.
It flat out ignores the hundreds of thousands of years of humanity multiplying like rabbits in a time the only selection for cognitive skills was to be able to recognize the edible part of a tree, that didn't result in the entire humanity regressing to monkeys.

Human intelligence does not work that way.

The opening scene is a joke. It is not fact. It is just that, a funny setup to a funny movie.

Feel free to disagree.
 
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