Official, confirmed Kinect price announced

tk_saturn said:
DeltaBurnt said:
Isn't the Move + Eyetoy + Game $100? And the standalone Kinect is $150.

Wat? From what I see Kinect is just the Eyetoy with a microphone and maybe better recognition.

So basically Microsoft is charging you more for the magical experience of having nothing (no controllers).
Some games require 2 move controllers, like the archery one. The bundle also doesn't include the $30 navcon.

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So for a single player you have the starter kit ($100), extra move controller ($50) and the navcon ($30) = $180.

Then if you want to play 2 player, you're going to need two more move controllers and another navcon = $310.

Go take a took at the European prices for Move, €59.99 for the bundle, €39.99 for the ice cream controller and €29.99 for the Nav Con. For some reason, Sony are fleecing Americans over the Move bundle. It's even a lot cheaper in the UK, £49.99 for the bundle. Then £39.99 for the Ice Cream controller and £29.99 for the navcon.

At least for Europe, it looks like Sony is going to try and sucker people in with a cheap bundle. Then try to make more money when people find theyy need more controllers/ navcons.

1st of all the navigation controller can be replaced by a dualshock controller. Second of all isn't the starter kit $50? Either way you still get a game with the starter kit. Furthermore I never remember hearing about a navcon, I thought all you needed was the PS3 Eye.
 
DeltaBurnt said:
Isn't the Move + Eyetoy + Game $100? And the standalone Kinect is $150.

Wat? From what I see Kinect is just the Eyetoy with a microphone and maybe better recognition.

So basically Microsoft is charging you more for the magical experience of having nothing (no controllers).
You're forgetting a couple of things.
1. This is a 3D camera. 2 sensors as opposed the the eyetoys 1 to allow good skeleton tracking
2. The Kinect has a lot of hardware inside it other than the cameras to allow this to happen. Leaving it as just a camera would limit the 360's capabilities too much so there is an extra co-processor inside to help ease the burden.
3. It has a motorised base. This is seen in webcams and pushes their price way up so its bound to have increased the Kinect's price.
 
George Dawes said:
Except there is no controller. There is an add-on for the 360 that contains a camera, audio sensors and "motion-sensing technology" that for allows controllerless gameplay.
You're really reaching, you know that? What Kinect does is the textbook definition of "game controller." It's an input device that translates your movements into game controls. You use it to interact with the game. It's a game controller.

George Dawes said:
That's what happens when someone completely lacking industry experience wants to pretend they aren't 16, and "write articles" for an online "encyclopaedia".
So it's only a valid reference when it suits you, and when it contradicts your claims it's a bunch of idiots?
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Make up your mind.

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I'm pointing out that it is an addon, and that add-ons never sell. You are trying to nitpick that joysticks, mice etc are also add-ons.
Mmmmmnope. I'm trying to point out it's a game controller, and as such it fits in the same category as joysticks and mice (i.e. devices people are willing to pay money for). Get it? No matter how far you stretch your definitions to try to label it as something else, it is still first and foremost a game controller.


Now, I know you dislike Kinect, and you want it to fail, and you want to back your predictions with something more than just personal bias to give them more weight. But all this bending words trying to cram it into a category of device that somehow "inherently fails" and, claiming it will "fail" based solely on semantics, is a dead end. It's not proving your point and it's not getting you anywhere. Try using some actually valid arguments for a change.
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George Dawes said:
Veho said:
And funnily enough, Kinect does just that.
Except there is no controller. There is an add-on for the 360 that contains a camera, audio sensors and "motion-sensing technology" that for allows controllerless gameplay.

Its an extra input device that basically classes it as a controller.

George Dawes said:
Which is it?
An add-on, clearly. It enables games that wouldn't be possible without it (just the same as the CD-addons for older consoles), making it an add-on.
What you say holds a slight grain of truth but the problem is this: The Kinect does not actually increase the 360's capabilities. It has an extra processor etc. in it but that is only so it can process and input the data into the 360 where it is then turned into the game's movements. CD add-ons and things such as the 32x increased the capabilities of the whole hardware by adding co-processors to allow more detail to be processed by the console as a whole. The Kinect only uses its hardware to provide inputs.
 
DeltaBurnt said:
1st of all the navigation controller can be replaced by a dualshock controller. Second of all isn't the starter kit $50? Either way you still get a game with the starter kit. Furthermore I never remember hearing about a navcon, I thought all you needed was the PS3 Eye.
If the single move controller is $50 http://www.walmart.com/ip/Playstation-3-Mo...3-Move/14658864 the starter pack isn't going to be $50 as well is it? http://www.walmart.com/ip/Playstation-3-Mo...3-Move/14658869

You had $100 for the starter kit in your original post.
 
tk_saturn said:
If the single move controller is $50 the starter pack isn't going to be $50 as well is it?
You never know. A WiiMote costs only a couple of bucks less than a WiiMote bundled with Wii Play.

Although I have to agree that in this case it would be quite ridiculous.
 
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Wow kind of a hefty price tag the price of 3 Xbox360 games.I would never bought the wii fit on it's own it was part of the console package but I love it if I'm honest it's great fun with the mates the games on wii fit and plus.Depending on what sort of games Microsoft have with it and depending how good the Move is on ps3 I might get it unless it's been released in Ireland around the same time as the Nintendo 3DS then no chance
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