Question NSP Update (versions and file sizes question)

Discussion in 'Switch - Backup Loaders & Modchips' started by silvershadow, Sep 11, 2018.

  1. silvershadow
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    silvershadow GBAtemp Regular

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    Hey,

    I did several updates over the span of a few weeks, and i noticed that for some games the update i got earlier was 900mb, and then a new update was 400mb.

    Does that mean that they made things more efficient or something?

    i was always under the impression that you only ever need the Base Game, and the Latest update, but seeing the file size for a newer update being smaller than an older update made me feel like i'm loosing some game data.

    Anyone know for sure?

    Thanks in advanced.

    I guess even if the latest update is smaller, it should still be okay, because if someone was to come along now, they would not get that older update, they would only get the latest.
     
  2. Draxzelex

    Draxzelex GBAtemp Guru

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    Every update is separate and doesn't contain data from previous updates. So if you want to to get to the latest version of a game, you can't just install the latest update; you need to install all of the updates (although the order doesn't matter too much).
     
  3. TheLegendaryJame

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    Wait, really? Is this also true for 3DS and Wii U as well?
     
  4. gizmomelb

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    umm I don't think that is correct.. that was the whole issue with the CDNSP upates NOT containing the deltas and that was fixed a few weeks ago.

    Generally I find most updates are larger with each version, but some are slightly smaller which I can only attribute to better data compaction, maybe content was removed etc.
     
  5. dsrules

    dsrules GBAtemp Psycho!

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    nope, latest update is all you need for 3ds
    and it should be the same for all systems
     
  6. bundat

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    So which is it really? :P

    Also when was this CDNSP "delta-issue" fixed? I had been downloading updates in Bob 4.0 and 4.1, but hadn't installed them yet as I am not yet done with the games I am playing now... it'd suck to know I just have broken updates stored for later.
     
  7. gizmomelb

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    delta issue with updates was discovered sometime between Bob 4.0 and 4.1
     
  8. wiiando

    wiiando GBAtemp Regular

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    That's not right, you select which update you want, not installing one by one, I know because I've installed the latest updates, you're theory is debunked too with the actual official firmware, say if a update is available from when you first get a game but there have been 3 or 4 updates before the latest update, the switch will download the latest update, not previous updates then the latest, that would take hours upon hours for some games.
     
  9. bundat

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    Any more details regarding this bug?
    Are the update NSPs downloaded when this bug was present broken? i.e. latest update does not include past updates?
    What exactly is "broken"?

    I've got a huge mixed bag of update NSPs downloaded with Bob 4.0 and 4.1, and it'd suck to have to install and check each one :/
     
  10. Thandor

    Thandor GBAtemp Regular

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    Found my first update that is smaller:

    Minecraft [UPD] [524288] 823,66 MB (1.6.0)
    Minecraft [UPD] [589824] 490,91 MB (1.6.1)

    So compression thing or do I really need both?
     
  11. Luminose

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    Did anyone ever figure out the answer?
     
  12. Thandor

    Thandor GBAtemp Regular

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    I never had any issues with installing the latest update only.
     
  13. Tinnetju

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    I can't find a clear answer anywhere either, the switch only shows 1 version of a game too so it doesn't seem to be keeping track of other versions in between.
     
  14. Zedroid

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    I saw a thread where the Kirby Star Allies (version 3.0.0) [base 0 + update 262144] *** Update July 27, 2018 *** base game was included with an older update was later replaced with just the base game and the newer update only and it seemed to work for a lot of people without the older update available anymore.
     
  15. subcon959

    subcon959 teh retro

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    Surprised this is still debated. You don't need every update, just the latest. It's always been that way.
     
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