Hacking Nintendo's evil plan

[LysergCooltyp]

Uh, yeah, no. Or, you know, getting a bloody job like a normal person would? I know, crazy idea.

That's rich coming from the guy complaining about his previous deadbeat job that didn't earn him enough to afford a switch without his brother co-owning it.

 

[Joom]

None of these games will be fun, so why worry?

 

[ov3rkill]

I don't care. I support Nintendo's evil plan except for the subscription thing which is coming and sounds sketchy as fuck like MS-fuck Xbox Live Gold thing. I hope it isn't.

 

[SoslanVanWieren]

You've got two kidneys. And two lungs.
There are other... services... people can sell too
That might have been what @Bowl0l meant

idk why i should mod mine anyway i have other portable devices that can run emulators the only reason i see is so you can cheat in pokemon.

 

[HexZyle]

idk why i should mod mine anyway i have other portable devices that can run emulators the only reason i see is so you can cheat in pokemon.

Why did you quote me for this

 

[Joom]

I don't care. I support Nintendo's evil plan except for the subscription thing which is coming and sounds sketchy as fuck like MS-fuck Xbox Live Gold thing. I hope it isn't.

If you have a job, online subscriptions aren't really a thing. I always like that people point the finger at Microsoft for this, but Sony also does this. Do people not complain about services like Hulu, Netflix, and Spotify because they've always been subscription based services? People also seem to fail to realize that these subscriptions come with perquisites. Microsoft's and Sony's services give users free games every month. You get other (meaningless bullshit to me) bonuses as well, but if you can't afford $60 a year ($25 in Nintendo's case), I have to wonder why you even put forth the money for the initial cost of the console.

Edit: "in a cardboard box"
Oops.

 

[EmanueleBGN]

Is it "evil" trying to protect its property against who want it without pay it?
The Switch is not thinked for Homebrew of CFW and pirates games, Nintendo wants to protect its economical interests

 

[HexZyle]

If you have a job, online subscriptions aren't really a thing. I always like that people point the finger at Microsoft for this, but Sony also does this. Do people not complain about services like Hulu, Netflix, and Spotify because they've always been subscription based services? People also seem to fail to realize that these subscriptions come with perquisites. Microsoft's and Sony's services give users free games every month. You get other (meaningless bullshit to me) bonuses as well, but if you can't afford $60 a year ($25 in Nintendo's case), I have to wonder why you even put forth the money for the initial cost of the console.

Couldn't have said it better. TBH I'd rather have a small fee for a global service like Nintendo online if it means that it'll keep running for a few years longer at the end of the console's life.
Running online services aren't free, and before you say "Nintendo can pay for it", remember that money comes from somewhere, in this case the sale of the game. Big companies don't just start printing money once they get large enough. Sales revenue isn't infinite, and much of it is invested into the next game. Eventually a time will come where a game's online services have outlived their price, and things get shut down.

I do have to correct you on the microsoft thing though. They're really not that good.

 

[ShroomKing]

the switch is there to play games, if you want to play the games you've listed: update.

 

[ov3rkill]

If you have a job, online subscriptions aren't really a thing. I always like that people point the finger at Microsoft for this, but Sony also does this. Do people not complain about services like Hulu, Netflix, and Spotify because they've always been subscription based services? People also seem to fail to realize that these subscriptions come with perquisites. Microsoft's and Sony's services give users free games every month. You get other (meaningless bullshit to me) bonuses as well, but if you can't afford $60 a year ($25 in Nintendo's case), I have to wonder why you even put forth the money for the initial cost of the console.

Edit: "in a cardboard box"
Oops.

I don't know if you still remember what MS did before but their subscription Xbox Live Gold before back in the 360 didn't offer any games. It's just for multiplayer and a bunch of non-sense features which should be included in the game anyway. Back in the day, I chose Sony because of free multiplayer and monthly games on different platforms PS3, PSP, Vita, minis, etc. It's not until the later years MS adapted to what Sony did. No need to support companies who are clearly up to your wallet just like with micro-transactions. I just hope Nintendo would offer something or better what Sony has especially since they are new to this thing. We'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Joom]

I do have to correct you on the microsoft thing though

What exactly is there to correct? Why do people think that I'm some Microsoft fanboy any time I make this argument?

I don't know if you still remember what MS did before but their subscription Xbox Live Gold before back in the 360 didn't offer any games. It's just for multiplayer and a bunch of non-sense features which should be included in the game anyway. Back in the day, I chose Sony because of free multiplayer and monthly games on different platforms PS3, PSP, Vita, minis, etc. It's not until the later years MS adapted to what Sony did. No need to support companies who are clearly up to your wallet just like with micro-transactions. I just hope Nintendo would offer something or better what Sony has especially since they are new to this thing. We'll just have to wait and see.

Sony only offered free games to PS Gold subscribers. Dunno where you got the idea that this was available to all PSN members. And again, why do people think that I support these marketing decisions? I just don't bitch about them because I'm an adult that can afford them. Also, Nintendo is only offering Virtual Console streaming. You don't get anything, just the ability to stream games you could otherwise emulate for free. The "old days" also aren't relevant anymore, obviously. What companies used to do holds absolutely no bearing now.

 

[8BitWonder]

Nah, it will never be that simple.
Nintendo will choose the best way, send an update that destroys your battery.
To bad to those without warranty but that's one way to force everyone to buy a new Switch.

I'm pretty sure if Nintendo (or any company for that matter) sent out an update that purposefully harmed their systems with slowdowns, or actually made them stop functioning, there'd be hell to pay. Plus that'd destroy their public image.

 

[Spider_Man]

I think this is stupid, but i think nintendo has an evil plan against us, first, they made that we need 3.0.1 to play Super Mario Odyssey
But what if now Nintendo makes that we need 5.0.0 to play Super Smash Bros, Metroid 4, Bayonetta 3 and Pokemon?
What is better, homebrew or that games?

unless you have lived under a rock for the past decade.

consoles have always made firmware requirements on its new titles.

its not an evil plan.

what if nintendo optimised the firmware code to increase performance for xxx title, if you make it a requirement to have this firmware then its going to prevent the n00bs bitching,

also firmware updates are said to be a security measure to "prevent" hackers/exploits which lead to piracy.

 

[kumikochan]

Nintendo is protecting their investors, developers, business partners. You're not entitled to anything so stop complaining

 

[SoslanVanWieren]

just buy a used wii or wii u if you want emulators if you want emulators on the go get a gpd xd or gpd win the gpd win can run dolphin.

 

[kumikochan]

I don't know if you still remember what MS did before but their subscription Xbox Live Gold before back in the 360 didn't offer any games. It's just for multiplayer and a bunch of non-sense features which should be included in the game anyway. Back in the day, I chose Sony because of free multiplayer and monthly games on different platforms PS3, PSP, Vita, minis, etc. It's not until the later years MS adapted to what Sony did. No need to support companies who are clearly up to your wallet just like with micro-transactions. I just hope Nintendo would offer something or better what Sony has especially since they are new to this thing. We'll just have to wait and see.

I thought Microsoft started doing it back in the day because of the many dedicated servers while Sony used peer to peer at the beginning. Could be wrong but i think that was the reason

 

[designgears]

Pretty simple fact you're overlooking OP, Nintendo doesn't know the how so they won't be patching anything in 5.0.0, unless they figured it out on their own, which I doubt.

 

[yardie]

Thats you opinion.

How's that an opinion?
How are you this clueless about life in general?

 

[Bowl0l]

I'm pretty sure if Nintendo (or any company for that matter) sent out an update that purposefully harmed their systems with slowdowns, or actually made them stop functioning, there'd be hell to pay. Plus that'd destroy their public image.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/nintendo-switch-battery-bug-fix-update-2017-8
They will just announce it's a bug and offer a 12 hours tutorial to fix it.
Since they already did a global test for 3.00, which manipulates the battery, they know how to react to the backlash of this fatal fw.

 

[ov3rkill]

I thought Microsoft started doing it back in the day because of the many dedicated servers while Sony used peer to peer at the beginning. Could be wrong but i think that was the reason

I see. I did not think of that. Then I stand corrected because honestly, a dedicated server which would cost especially for maintenance is still better than a peer-to-peer connection during those times.
I used to play CS1.6 and the first Modern Warfare on dedicated servers and it was definitely better but it was on PC and those games also offered LAN. geez. talking about old-school LAN party.

@Joom
Not sure if there was PSN Gold. I'm sure free monthly games were offered for the PS Plus members (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Network#PlayStation_Plus) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Instant_Game_Collection_games_(North_America)).
The only thing I can think of Gold for Sony is the trophies - Silver, Gold, Platinum(?).

I think Xbox Live Gold was for the subscribers and Silver for the non-subs.

Anyway, I just don't want Nintendo locking up some features in the game especially the multiplayer behind a subscription. Playing Splatoon and Mario Kart are currently fine as it is. Hopefully, it'll be the same for Super Smash and probably some upcoming multiplayer games. That's just my opinion.