NGP (PSP2) announced!

[thaddius]

eww
why are the psx controls ON the screen. I know it's touch screen, but the PSP2 has freakin BUTTONS. The touch controls in emulators suck from what I've used on the iPhone.

I thought those buttons were just for 'playstation suite' games for android. I might be wrong though.


I'm interested in the tech involved in this thing, but I'm not looking forward to paying as much as it's obviously going to be. If it's under $200 it'd be a must buy for me, but there's no way they can sell it for that little.

Plus it won't play UMDs, so balls to that.

 

[rockstar99]

MGS4 is pretty much the perfect example of the kind of game you don't want to play on a handheld, a system more suited to quick bursts of gameplay. I don't want to spend my journey to work watching half a cut scene and then watching the second half of it on the way back, followed by 3 mintues of gameplay. Sony simply can't grasp what makes a good handheld system and the best they can hope for this generation is to wrestle with iDevices for a respectable second, based on today's lacklustre reveal.

Oh yeah it is, it might even be the sole reason for me getting this on launch
MGS4 in my hands.... dream come true

 

[SoraKeyofFate]

I've got a strong feeling it'll be a option to choose between touch screen controls or buttons. But yeah, I hate the "virtual buttons" on iPhone games. If they force touchscreen controls for PSX games I'll be sticking to my PSP for PSX games.

I agree. Though one thing I'm not too sold on is the the power of the console. As I haven't gotten any details yet, I can't really say anything, but has there been any expansion to the "as powerful as the PS3"? Because people said the same thing about the 3DS, and how utterly wrong were they...?

 

[kiafazool]

its okay i guess
i dont really like the design

the thing looks like one of those cheap dealextreme toys

the features are good but design sucks
they should've gone with the sliding factor to protect the screen

i dont really understand how the rear touchpad works someone explain?

 

[Guild McCommunist]

MGS4 is pretty much the perfect example of the kind of game you don't want to play on a handheld, a system more suited to quick bursts of gameplay. I don't want to spend my journey to work watching half a cut scene and then watching the second half of it on the way back, followed by 3 mintues of gameplay. Sony simply can't grasp what makes a good handheld system and the best they can hope for this generation is to wrestle with iDevices for a respectable second, based on today's lacklustre reveal.

It's a good point there. I guess I'm more comfortable with just having a chance to play the game, even if it means hooking up my NGP to a charger and sitting in bed for the next 20+ hours playing it.

Although seeing how MGS games have been handled on handhelds, they may take some liberty of actually tailoring the game to the handheld. Everybody loved MGS on the GBC (it's still the highest rated Metal Gear game to date), and even though I thought Portable Ops was a poor game, it still did a nice job of making it portable, aka cutting it up into missions. Peace Walker just perfected it.

I mean the same argument could be said for MGS3 on the 3DS, since it's still quite a lengthy game and very cutscene focused (not as much as the gigantic cutscenes in MGS4, but there's still plenty on there), but odds are they'll take the liberty with that as well and make it more approachable for handhelds.

And how are iDevices second? I mean, I'm no Apple fan, but iDevices are absolutely gigantic in terms of handhelds. Maybe not for games, but they sell a lot for being priced at hundreds of dollars above the current DS and PSP. Next generation, when it's 3DS vs. NGP vs. iPods/iPhones/iPads, I'm pretty sure Apple is gonna win in terms of sales.

QUOTE(Guild McCommunist @ Jan 27 2011, 09:16 AM) I've got a strong feeling it'll be a option to choose between touch screen controls or buttons. But yeah, I hate the "virtual buttons" on iPhone games. If they force touchscreen controls for PSX games I'll be sticking to my PSP for PSX games.

I agree. Though one thing I'm not too sold on is the the power of the console. As I haven't gotten any details yet, I can't really say anything, but has there been any expansion to the "as powerful as the PS3"? Because people said the same thing about the 3DS, and how utterly wrong were they...?

The NGP has been shown playing ports of PS3 games that keep the same environments and models. It's not as powerful as the PS3 but reports say it plays games that are roughly on-par in terms of graphics as a PS3.

 

[TM2-Megatron]

Next generation, when it's 3DS vs. NGP vs. iPods/iPhones/iPads, I'm pretty sure Apple is gonna win in terms of sales.

Considering those iDevices are for more than merely gaming, I'm not sure how significant that really is.

Besides, all it proves is just how many posers there are these days, lol.

 

[Hop2089]

More money gone, oh well might as well get this too, the only thing that bugs me is price for 3G, it's not going to be pretty if it's too expensive, and I won't use it either since it most likely will require a PSN from the US which I don't have (I only have a JP PSN). Good thing it still has wi-fi. The design makes it good for playing some of my PS classics like Front Mission 3 and Chocobo's Mysterious Dungeon 2.

 

[cwstjdenobs]

Yet the DS gets thousands of low quality shovelware games and does get a good deal of mediocre ports but no one calls the games "gimped". I guess people would rather have "shitty" games then "gimped" ones.

I wasn't on about the shitty games on the DS compared to the shitty games on the PSP. I was comparing the good games on each. A good game on the PSP == a game that would have worked better on a home console. There are probably as many if not more "decent to excellent" games on the DS than there are PSP games. And sony would have loved to get as many shitty ports and shovelware on the PSP, it would have given them the financial security to have risked not taking safe bets.

I like the look of this new console. I hope it won't be the massive failure the PSP was because of a lack of games from third party devs, no one buys a Sony console for first party content, Nintendo need some competition in this area, and they can pull AAA titles out of their arses while Sony can not.

And no, I am not saying Sony can't make a good game. Or even the odd amazing one. But they still can't compete with Nintendo on that side yet. You've got to remember Nintendo are actually a much bigger company (Market value of $85 billion vs Sonys $35 billion) and only make games/toys. Sony have much better relationships than Nintendo with all the other devs accept for maybe Capcom, so they should play to those strengths .

 

[Jakob95]

Great now I don't know what to get this or the 3DS............... Why can't I just be rich and get both

 

[rockstar99]

Yet the DS gets thousands of low quality shovelware games and does get a good deal of mediocre ports but no one calls the games "gimped". I guess people would rather have "shitty" games then "gimped" ones.

I wasn't on about the shitty games on the DS compared to the shitty games on the PSP. I was comparing the good games on each. A good game on the PSP == a game that would have worked better on a home console. There are probably as many if not more "decent to excellent" games on the DS than there are PSP games. And sony would have loved to get as many shitty ports and shovelware on the PSP, it would have given them the financial security to have risked not taking safe bets.

I like the look of this new console. I hope it won't be the massive failure the PSP was because of a lack of games from third party devs, no one buys a Sony console for first party content, Nintendo need some competition in this area, and they can pull AAA titles out of their arses while Sony can not.

And no, I am not saying Sony can't make a good game. Or even the odd amazing one. But they still can't compete with Nintendo on that side yet. You've got to remember Nintendo are actually a much bigger company (Market value of $85 billion vs Sonys $35 billion) and only make games/toys. Sony have much better relationships than Nintendo with all the other devs accept for maybe Capcom, so they should play to those strengths .

lol PSP failure?
Have you owned a PSP?

 

[Erdnaxela]

The PSP is not a failure

 

[BlueStar]

Oh yeah it is, it might even be the sole reason for me getting this on launch
MGS4 in my hands.... dream come true

Is MGS4 a game you've not played yet because you don't have a PS3 and always wanted to, or is it just one of your favourite games and you want to play it all over again on the small screen?

As for the DS's 'shovelware', it's an irrelevance to people who don't want to play Imagine titles. Nno-one forces you to play those games, they give publishers such as Ubisoft quick capital to plough into more invovled games and they inrease the appeal of the system to alternative demographics, shift units and give the system a larger userbase. A torrent of crap is what follows a successful system, the NES had a higher ratio of unplayable-good games than the DS had and the PS2 had at least as much shovelware.

 

[Fear Zoa]

Ehhh still getting the 3ds first.....still a nintendo fan at heart....
I'll probably get this edventually...but I have my priorities..

 

[cwstjdenobs]

lol PSP failure?
Have you owned a PSP?

Yes, a 1000. One of only 2 people I know who has, and the only one who's bought games for it. Maybe it did better in the US but over here you only really see them in stores.

EDIT: And no, the other person doesn't pirate, he just never bothered with it for more than emu's.

 

[stylow]

lol PSP failure?
Have you owned a PSP?

Yes, a 1000. One of only 2 people I know who has, and the only one who's bought games for it. Maybe it did better in the US but over here you only really see them in stores.

EDIT: And no, the other person doesn't pirate, he just never bothered with it for more than emu's.

Here in the netherlands you see much people with a psp in school but not with a ds but i have a dsi and psp 3000 so it doesn't really bother me

 

[Lassik]

The PSP is not a failure

What's up with this chart? PSP has higher numbers than the PS3 yet the bar is smaller...

 

[Guild McCommunist]

The PSP is not a failure

What's up with this chart? PSP has higher numbers than the PS3 yet the bar is bigger...

The chart's divided into handhelds (DS and PSP) and home consoles (Wii, Xbox 360, and PS3). So I'm assuming the PSP part of the chart is in proportion to the DS side.

But it's vgchartz so who knows.

 

[Fireballo]

This is a great day. Handhelds have finally caught up with console gaming.

 

[Ryupower]

do not know if this was posted

that is game card

 

[DryYoshi]

do not know if this was posted

that is game card

LOL, Sony using game cards instead of disks...